Gender Discussion #108

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Funny_bunny

Funny_bunny

Metropolis said:
There are definitely women’s toilets in the Barbican as I used them the other day. However, it’s always the women’s that gets turned into ‘gender neutral’ for the sake of men in dresses. As they’re altering toilet signs for a subset of men, it should be the men’s that’s made to accommodate these AGPs.
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It actually makes me mad that women have to give up everything to keep men happy. I don’t want to go into toilets with men in them. I’m not comfortable around men I don’t know. If women don’t mind sharing, then make the male toilets gender neutral. Why give over facilities designed to keep women safe and keep their dignity?
 
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minimaz

DoraMaar said:
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Just shows what an empty soundbite it was all along. They all repeated it ad nauseum and never thought through the consequences and rolled their eyes at any woman who had thought it through and called her hysterical. I still think if they had the opportunity to sneak a change through in legislation like Dentons suggested they would because they don't actually care about women just their votes
 
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Lukeal70

Lukeal70

Alistess said:
I had the pleasure of being at school with Denise Welch and she was a self obsessed gobby little madam. She hasn’t changed.
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Ooh did we go to the same school ? Pretty sure she went to my school but a few years ahead of me. I can't stand her.
 
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ChastityDingle

ChastityDingle

Funny_bunny said:
It actually makes me mad that women have to give up everything to keep men happy. I don’t want to go into toilets with men in them. I’m not comfortable around men I don’t know. If women don’t mind sharing, then make the male toilets gender neutral. Why give over facilities designed to keep women safe and keep their dignity?
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Yes, and I know it has been confirmed that there are women's toilets there, but in that paricular section, why not make all of them 'gender neutral'... Even typing that phrase has me rolling my eyes. Oh yes, because the men must be allowed to have privacy in single sex toilets. But they must also be allowed to be in with women, if they want to be. [Puke.]
 
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Funny_bunny

Funny_bunny

ChastityDingle said:
Yes, and I know it has been confirmed that there are women's toilets there, but in that paricular section, why not make all of them 'gender neutral'... Even typing that phrase has me rolling my eyes. Oh yes, because the men must be allowed to have privacy in single sex toilets. But they must also be allowed to be in with women, if they want to be. [Puke.]
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Basically, men get everything and women get nothing.
minimaz said:
Just shows what an empty soundbite it was all along. They all repeated it ad nauseum and never thought through the consequences and rolled their eyes at any woman who had thought it through and called her hysterical. I still think if they had the opportunity to sneak a change through in legislation like Dentons suggested they would because they don't actually care about women just their votes
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Does ANYONE really believe that trans women are women? It’s got the ring of an indoctrination mantra to me. The concept that a man can decide to be a woman, and it makes him one is one of the most senseless, ridiculous ideas I’ve ever come across. I’m afraid, I’ve never believed it.
 
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Nelly's mum

Nelly's mum said:
I can't wait for a high-profile court case against one of these organisations who think they don't have to follow laws they don't like that uphold women's sex-based rights - bring it on 👊
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Quoting myself like a numpty;
I see Women's Rights Network are challenging Gwent Police for saying 'trans staff are entitled to use the facilities of the gender in which they present'.
Oh the irony of police not following the law...

WRN are giving 2wks for a satisfactory response and reserve the right to issue proceedings, Gwent Police say a revised policy will be issued following consultation with staff networks.
Bring it on!! 👊
 
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WitchyGrab

WitchyGrab

Funny_bunny said:
Basically, men get everything and women get nothing.

Does ANYONE really believe that trans women are women? It’s got the ring of an indoctrination mantra to me. The concept that a man can decide to be a woman, and it makes him one is one of the most senseless, ridiculous ideas I’ve ever come across. I’m afraid, I’ve never believed it.
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I remember once having a conversation with a random man, who said transwomen (I hate how autocorrect tries to make that into two words) are women and when I innocently inquired if he was really unable to tell the difference, he shot himself in the foot and said of course he could! Why say something that you don’t actually believe?! Dangerous things happen when people don’t engage with critical thinking. It is amazing that people will parrot statements, without having deeply considered what they are saying. As my Grandad used to say, the more I see of people, the more I like my dog (I don’t have a dog but am sat currently with my parents’ sleeping Lurchers).
 
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emmer_moans

emmer_moans

Exactly! JKR brings the facts.
Edit to add: I am delighted the Poison Lady Nicola is feeling some heat. Serves her right.

Edit to also add: Nicola wants to differentiate and blame men when it's her chance to get away with something, but when other innocent women in prisons are housed with psychotic sex offender TIMs, that's fine and those women should put up with it. One rule for me, another for thee.

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TheMiceInTheShed

TheMiceInTheShed

WitchyGrab said:
I remember once having a conversation with a random man, who said transwomen (I hate how autocorrect tries to make that into two words) are women and when I innocently inquired if he was really unable to tell the difference, he shot himself in the foot and said of course he could! Why say something that you don’t actually believe?! Dangerous things happen when people don’t engage with critical thinking. It is amazing that people will parrot statements, without having deeply considered what they are saying. As my Grandad used to say, the more I see of people, the more I like my dog (I don’t have a dog but am sat currently with my parents’ sleeping Lurchers).
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Like the man who said TW are women except for sex purposes. (I think he was on Twitter)
 
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ChastityDingle

ChastityDingle

Funny_bunny said:
Basically, men get everything and women get nothing.

Does ANYONE really believe that trans women are women? It’s got the ring of an indoctrination mantra to me. The concept that a man can decide to be a woman, and it makes him one is one of the most senseless, ridiculous ideas I’ve ever come across. I’m afraid, I’ve never believed it.
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Me neither.
Even a very very basic grasp of biology would tell them that it simply cannot be.

Not to mention that the majority of them apparently think that putting on a dress, a bad wig - always set too far forward on their big MAN heads - and some badly applied makeup makes them so.

Also I believe that most of them only do it because up to now, screaming things like NO DEBATE and TRANSPHOBE... got them into women's spaces and sports, without question.

The world and its mother knows they are men. And so do they.
 
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