Gender Discussion 106

[VeniVidiVicki]

What really bleeping bugs me is that when we talk about rights for women, we include the likes of Grace(less) in those rights. Her and her ilk only care about the rights of those who think like she does - including men in spinny skirts. And she thinks she feminist
Grace dear - feminism includes the rights of all women - even the ones we disagree with, even the ones who are the polar opposite to us in beliefs. I would fight for your rights the same way I'd fight for my daughter's rights and the rights of every woman on this forum, you classless bleeping a. If you think Charlie and his ilk would ever fight for your rights, think again. He'd throw you under the bus in 15 seconds flat. Go on try and assert a boundary, see what happens.

Grace is never going to be doing shifts where she has to change in communal changing rooms at horrible times of day. Grace is never going to have to deal with a convicted paedophile who she has to fit a catheter to who insists on being called she.

If ever gender ideology was laid bare for the achingly privileged middle class movement it is, it has been the court cases brought by nurses across the U.K. in the last few years. If you’re not standing with the nurses, there’s something very wrong with you.

 

[petitspois]

I’d love to see someone ‘accidentally’ misgender Grace and ask her about her trans journey. Let’s see how she reacts then.

 

[DoraMaar]

Alistar Campbell - still digging that hole - JKR handed him his a**e earlier but he keeps rollin, rollin ...

 

[emmer_moans]

I swear if most of these TRAs were slipped some truth potion 99.9999999% of them would say that men can't be women. Instead though, we get people like Campbell suddenly trying to be a massive pick-me all of a sudden.

 

[VeniVidiVicki]

Alistar Campbell - still digging that hole - JKR handed him his a**e earlier but he keeps rollin, rollin ...

Listen to a man! No thanks Al.

 

[TheMiceInTheShed]

I’d love to see someone ‘accidentally’ misgender Grace and ask her about her trans journey. Let’s see how she reacts then.

Like the woman on here?

 

[Not Now Bernard]

Listen to a man! No thanks Al.

He’s shown us who he is - a misogynist twit. Why would we listen to anything else he has to say.

 

[minimaz]

Alistar Campbell - still digging that hole - JKR handed him his a**e earlier but he keeps rollin, rollin ...

If hes so convinced hes in the right and that his sides arguments are robust, then why not have the FWS women on? Isn't sunlight the best disinfectant?

The Darlington nurses case was properly swept under the rug but a situation like that is where the rubber meets the road. I want supporters of this ideology to listen to those womens stories and tell them why they're wrong to want single sex spaces.

I'd say it bristles him so much JKR rightly called him a misogynist because in his head hes one of the "good" ones but yet couldn't even tell you what a woman is and won't even countenance women to define themselves.

 

[emmer_moans]

If hes so convinced hes in the right and that his sides arguments are robust, then why not have the FWS women on? Isn't sunlight the best disinfectant?

The Darlington nurses case was properly swept under the rug but a situation like that is where the rubber meets the road. I want supporters of this ideology to listen to those womens stories and tell them why they're wrong to want single sex spaces.

I'd say it bristles him so much JKR rightly called him a misogynist because in his head hes one of the "good" ones but yet couldn't even tell you what a woman is and won't even countenance women to define themselves.

honestly I think a lot of these men never got over being told off by their mothers or female teachers as children, and their egos couldn't cope so whenever they get told off or shown up by a female it sends them into some primal rage.

 

[Metropolis]

Alistar Campbell - still digging that hole - JKR handed him his a**e earlier but he keeps rollin, rollin ...

‘Measured’ advocate Sarah McBride

 

[Dinate]

The Olympics’ trans policy polices womanhood | Moira Donegan https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...1/olympics-trans-policy-ioc?CMP=share_btn_url


Honestly, I'm not even going to bother with the 'substance, for want of a better word, of this ridiculous article. Only going to say that it's amazing that Guardian is determined to go down with this sinking ship. They're just beyond embarrassing at this point.

 

[funkimunki1984]

honestly I think a lot of these men never got over being told off by their mothers or female teachers as children, and their egos couldn't cope so whenever they get told off or shown up by a female it sends them into some primal rage.

Doesn’t it just? It’s insane how they all seem to have to a hairpin trigger. The slightest thing sets them off.

I love the twirly skirt brigade because if they engage you’re guaranteed they’ll kick off. Misgender them or argue against their crazy feelings and beliefs and you’re instantly the devil incarnate.

Someone made a good point on a post I recently saw. The non binary lot like to call themselves they/them and that’s what demons call themselves in the bible (apparently). I dont follow religion much but this lot do act like bloody demons.

 

[BlairWaldorf86]

The Olympics’ trans policy polices womanhood | Moira Donegan https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...1/olympics-trans-policy-ioc?CMP=share_btn_url


Honestly, I'm not even going to bother with the 'substance, for want of a better word, of this ridiculous article. Only going to say that it's amazing that Guardian is determined to go down with this sinking ship. They're just beyond embarrassing at this point.

How can she write, in a single paragraph no less, that a gene test will disqualify “cis women” based on their hormone levels? Has she even read what she wrote?

 

[Weebles Wobble]

How can she write, in a single paragraph no less, that a gene test will disqualify “cis women” based on their hormone levels? Has she even read what she wrote?

Maybe she had to meet a deadline and asked ChatGPT to churn out woke phrases for her to insert at random?

" The new rules effectively redefine womanhood – but not manhood – as a novel and previously unrecognized category consisting only of those with a specific set of genetic prerequisites."

Previously unrecognised?? Until about ten years ago, it was fully recognised. And if she means the female category, it was also recognised by genetic testing at elite level.

"...has led athletic federations to ban trans women from sports competitions, a demand that has largely not been made for transgender men in women’s or men’s sports." Gee, I wonder why that is? All those women taking places away from men, smashing their records and perving on them in the locker rooms.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Men's category actually an Open category? So women have always had the right to compete in it, if they wanted to and there isn't a need to genetically test before being placed in it. And of course women ("transgender men") can compete in women's sports - so long as they meet all the criteria.

"Laurel Hubbard, a weightlifter, represented New Zealand at the 2020 games in Tokyo. She came in dead last."

He took away an opportunity for a woman to compete, because he was in the wrong category.

"Women who are too muscular, too masculine, too strong or simply too good at their chosen sport will now, inevitably, be subjected to accusations that they are men"

Because all of the women in the Olympics will have passed a sex test, that means they will now be subjected to accusations?? I believe it will be the exact opposite.

Give it up, Moira, men have to compete with men in sports, unless it's a mixed category.

Women are protected by this testing.

 

[minimaz]

Rosie Duffield has a position equivalent to McBride, they're both members of their countrys lower houses, why not have Rosie on? If a topic like womens rights or political violence is worth discussing she seems very well placed.

 

[minimaz]

Great article in the Guardian about the IOC testing by Tanya Aldred

"There have been claims that sex screening targets black athletes from the global south, such as South Africa’s Caster Semenya, Kenya’s Margaret Wambui and Burundi’s Francine Niyonsaba, who all won medals in the 800m at the 2016 Olympics, fairly under the IOC rules of the time. But that is not accurate. The SRY screening will be applied to anyone who wants to compete in the female category at the 2028 Olympics, regardless of where they are from. As XY-DSD athletes, Semenya, Wambui and Niyonsaba were reported female at birth but have the SRY gene and male-level testosterone to which their bodies typically respond, and this confers physical advantage. They would therefore now be excluded. Their previous inclusion meant there were female runners from South Africa, Kenya and Burundi who didn’t get a chance to go the Olympics. "

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[VeniVidiVicki]

‘Measured’ advocate Sarah McBride
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Malcolm Clark has some very interesting articles on his substack about McBride. Well worth a read

 

[FourSeasonSoupObsessive]

Great article in the Guardian about the IOC testing by Tanya Aldred

"There have been claims that sex screening targets black athletes from the global south, such as South Africa’s Caster Semenya, Kenya’s Margaret Wambui and Burundi’s Francine Niyonsaba, who all won medals in the 800m at the 2016 Olympics, fairly under the IOC rules of the time. But that is not accurate. The SRY screening will be applied to anyone who wants to compete in the female category at the 2028 Olympics, regardless of where they are from. As XY-DSD athletes, Semenya, Wambui and Niyonsaba were reported female at birth but have the SRY gene and male-level testosterone to which their bodies typically respond, and this confers physical advantage. They would therefore now be excluded. Their previous inclusion meant there were female runners from South Africa, Kenya and Burundi who didn’t get a chance to go the Olympics. "

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that’s such a solid article. Factual, fair, and points out the attempt to leverage accusations of racism. Yes, it does seem to be more likely that this policy will affect athletes from the global south, for a number of reasons - from access to healthcare and cultural norms up to and including some countries extremly cynical deliberate recruitment policy targeting individuals with DSDs. But to then conclude “therefore this is racist” just completely erases the hundreds of black women who’ve been DIRECTLY disadvantaged by the previous policy in countries like Burundi and Kenya! They exist! And now they can get the chances they’ve been denied. They won’t be kept out of teams by athletes with DSDs, they’ll have greater access to funding etc etc.

And as for the other article wanking on about Hubbard coming dead last, I can hardly be bothered to engage with the lazy thinking- his place at the Olympics displaced, among other women, Feagagia Stowers, an extremely talented Samoan woman who overcame huge barriers of poverty, abuse and discrimination to achieve her success, unlike Hubbard, son of a millionaire.

 

[Tofino]

Sperm donor Robert Albon dismissed from being on child's birth certificate

The child's mother and her partner say they never wanted Robert Albon to play any part in the child's life.

www.bbc.co.uk

Well isn’t this a bleeping mess.


The child's mother was in a les relationship at the time of conception, but not married.

The couple paid Albon £100 in cash and a £150 Amazon gift card before she got pregnant via artificial insemination.

By the time the child was born, the mother's partner had begun identifying as a trans man and was registered on the birth certificate as the father.

 

[TheMiceInTheShed]

The Olympics’ trans policy polices womanhood | Moira Donegan https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...1/olympics-trans-policy-ioc?CMP=share_btn_url


Honestly, I'm not even going to bother with the 'substance, for want of a better word, of this ridiculous article. Only going to say that it's amazing that Guardian is determined to go down with this sinking ship. They're just beyond embarrassing at this point.

Just read it.

It would be difficult to find a more ridiculous pile of pretentious, ill-informed, self-righteous, self-congratulatory bollox.