Gender Discussion 106

[ChocolateTeapot]

I used to love podcasts but I’m really going off them because of the very flippant ‘terfs are evil’ attitude that slips in - even when the topic has nothing to do with it!
For example, recently went on a bit of a deep dive on what celeb men get away with and found the ‘what a creep’ podcast. Premise seemed great but evidently should have done my homework a little bit more as half way through the episode on Neil Gaiman they apologised for citing an article from a ‘terfy’ publication, and then at the end of the episode they decided to bash JK Rowling claiming she was his friend. Now, it’s an old podcast episode so maybe it came out before she ripped into him on Twitter but i don’t remember them ever being particularly friendly and… for gods sake, even if you don’t agree with her Gender Critical views perhaps take a moment to think before equating a woman who set up a sexual abuse centre for women with a…. Man accused of sexual abuse.
It’s really pissed me off this morning. Grr.

 

[GingerWhinger]

They’re so dumb! They think we’re as scared of being ostracised for our views as they are Talk about projection. Nothing would make me happier than TERF only public loo.

Their entitlement to access spaces they are adamant are theirs will be their downfall. Trans rights are men’s rights, they do not benefit women they take away our rights to single sex spaces making them unisex. It is a Male Rights movement, if they were allies they would be campaigning for their own spaces.

 

[emmer_moans]

Their entitlement to access spaces they are adamant are theirs will be their downfall. Trans rights are men’s rights, they do not benefit women they take away our rights to single sex spaces making them unisex. It is a Male Rights movement, if they were allies they would be campaigning for their own spaces.

I wonder what the stats are on medical transition - surgery level, lopping off breasts for 'trans' girls wanting to be boys, comparied to surgeries on men trying to gain a rot pocket... I bet many more girls get the actual surgery. Whereas the Eddies and Dylans of this world do it via clothing wigs and falsetto... therefore I think the movement suits men because they can demand and parody and usurp women, whereas actual girls are the surgucal guinea pigs in this movement. It's their bodies for the most part being harmed. Any men getting fake boobs can have them taken out. But girls having mastecomies and hysterectomies because of this ideology are permanently harmed. Even when the deluded girls think the gender idenity of being non-binary or 'male' is liberating, it really isn't. They are the ones suffering physically and pushed aside whilst the men walk around demanding things and being fawned on. You don't see as many folk fawning of TIFs compared to TIMs, either.

The movement is just another way to terrorise women.

 

[DoraMaar]

I used to love podcasts but I’m really going off them because of the very flippant ‘terfs are evil’ attitude that slips in - even when the topic has nothing to do with it!
For example, recently went on a bit of a deep dive on what celeb men get away with and found the ‘what a creep’ podcast. Premise seemed great but evidently should have done my homework a little bit more as half way through the episode on Neil Gaiman they apologised for citing an article from a ‘terfy’ publication, and then at the end of the episode they decided to bash JK Rowling claiming she was his friend. Now, it’s an old podcast episode so maybe it came out before she ripped into him on Twitter but i don’t remember them ever being particularly friendly and… for gods sake, even if you don’t agree with her Gender Critical views perhaps take a moment to think before equating a woman who set up a sexual abuse centre for women with a…. Man accused of sexual abuse.
It’s really pissed me off this morning. Grr.

I used to listen to podcasts quite regularly. I think recently they have become echo chambers for people who could not stand up to the scrutiny of being interviewed by a regular journalist - no loons or allies on Triggernometry. Grace Campbell probably has very little of interest to say - she's a nepo baby with a microphone with a loudmouth father (who began his career writing porn - his pen (insert joke here) name was Riviera Gigolo)

 

[ChastityDingle]

This is an excellent response to that misogynistic fool Alan Cummings' 'understanding' of the word 'feminism'. I love Amy, would really recommend watching her videos any time you're bored or in need of intelligent terf material.

Well worth watching, thank you. I will definitely be watching more of her videos.

 

[TheMiceInTheShed]

Saw an advert on Tube for the family makers show - lgbtqi+++++ fertility convention - sponsored by the women wellness clinic.

Spoiler: upsetting

This is after that gay couple grape to death a baby boy they had adopted and surrogate babies acquired by couples and without mothers are being put all over the Internet in distressing videos as accessories. The made in Chelsea cupola spent hundreds of thousands to acquire their babies, the surrogate had miscarriages which was of course all about thier extra expense and not the mother’s pain or anguish. Now they have been kicked out for not paying rent and they have babies to support and care for. Someone used to know is on insta and he and his husband have suddenly acquired a toddler and putting her on the internet for cute videos - massive side eye from me.

First, I do think gay people can raise children. But more and more I think if the arrangement means the mother is not available or around and the baby is deprived of her after birth it is so detrimental to the child. Also predatory men will absolutely try to adopt their victims so why aren’t they spotted by agencies?? (So I mainly think gay women can raise children I guess… I also now think surrogacy is wrong and incredibly anti women. So I’m disappointed the women’s wellness clinic is organising this - and the poster of course had rainbow men with a baby. Not ‘normal’ gay people.

Surrogacy is EVIL!

It is too easy for people to buy babies for nefarious purposes. There seems to be next to no control over who is accepted - and even when it is apparently reliable heterosexual couples seeking children, there are so many instances of "imperfect" children (erg Down's, birthmarks etc) being abandoned - sometimes in clinics, sometimes with poverty-stricken mothers who can't afford to keep them (women who had only reluctantly chosen surrogacy because they hadn't enough money to feed and clothe their existing children).

Some women are forced into surrogacy by their husbands/ boyfriends, who see it as an easy way to raise money - this is doubly damaging for mother and baby - and do you think these infants are welcome in the mother's family if the commissioning parents decide they don't want them? Of course they aren't.

The examples of children quite literally being bred to be abused are too many - even one is too many - I am certain that there is a huge black market in these poor babies, and now that the foul genie is out of the bottle, we will never get it back in.

It is a sickening, hideous trade and is just a form of modern-day slavery.

 

[TheMiceInTheShed]

What point is this lunatic trying to make? Another deeply unpleasant male p talking absolute nonsense and telling women how to feel and how to behave. duck off you creep!

Huge wave of transodium overcoming me here - he is DISGUSTING!

 

[GingerWhinger]

I wonder what the stats are on medical transition - surgery level, lopping off breasts for 'trans' girls wanting to be boys, comparied to surgeries on men trying to gain a rot pocket... I bet many more girls get the actual surgery. Whereas the Eddies and Dylans of this world do it via clothing wigs and falsetto... therefore I think the movement suits men because they can demand and parody and usurp women, whereas actual girls are the surgucal guinea pigs in this movement. It's their bodies for the most part being harmed. Any men getting fake boobs can have them taken out. But girls having mastecomies and hysterectomies because of this ideology are permanently harmed. Even when the deluded girls think the gender idenity of being non-binary or 'male' is liberating, it really isn't. They are the ones suffering physically and pushed aside whilst the men walk around demanding things and being fawned on. You don't see as many folk fawning of TIFs compared to TIMs, either.

The movement is just another way to terrorise women.

Agree, it’s a highly misogynistic movement. Capitalising on the messages women are given through society and the media about our bodies. Not thin enough, too large, overly sexualised. No wonder teenage girls hate their bodies, and let’s be honest it’s vulnerable teenage girls who fall for this ideology, whereas on the opposite side it appears the reverse a vast number of middle aged men who are just autogynphiles.

 

[Piff paff puff]

This is a TV play from the 1970's for a bit of light entertainment about a married man who's transing. It stars the fabulous Anna cropper (no connection to Hayley cropper) who is one of the long suffering wives of a trannie.
This lot aren't violent and as entitled or seeking to shock as today's.

 

[People-huv-tae-know]

Those podcast wankers are talking out of their arses when calling For Women Scotland weird. Look at these beautiful, strong women. Trina Budge was battling breast cancer when FWS was founded and she started doing rallies and other campaigns about a month after her operation. What a warrior.

 

[People-huv-tae-know]

You might be forgiven that Stonewall might go back to supporting LGB only but no. Kez will be throwing women under the bus.

 

[TheMiceInTheShed]

Those podcast wankers are talking out of their arses when calling For Women Scotland weird. Look at these beautiful, strong women. Trina Budge was battling breast cancer when FWS was founded and she started doing rallies and other campaigns about a month after her operation. What a warrior.
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And not one of them felt she had to dress like a porn-addled p's wet dream of what a woman should wear, or physically threaten anyone with grape or death, or drown anyone out with chants, loud music and vezuvelas.

Why - they should be ashamed to call themselves "women" with an attitude like that!

Ladies - you are beautiful, intelligent, dignified, and beyond courageous and determined I'm proud to share the same sex chromosomes.

 

[TheMiceInTheShed]

You might be forgiven that Stonewall might go back to supporting LGB only but no. Kez will be throwing women under the bus.

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They can "gender self-ID" as what the hell they like - as long as they keep out of women's single-SEX spaces, and don't expect other people to join them in their lunacy. They can stick their compelled pronouns up their hairy arses.*

*I know some of them are women - but it's the men who are causing the problems and presenting a threat to women's bodies, mental health, privacy and dignity.

 

[Metropolis]

This is a TV play from the 1970's for a bit of light entertainment about a married man who's transing. It stars the fabulous Anna cropper (no connection to Hayley cropper) who is one of the long suffering wives of a trannie.
This lot aren't violent and as entitled or seeking to shock as today's.

I’ve only watched the first 8 mins so far, but already sympathise with the put-upon woman

WIFE: “I’ve accepted a lot from you…dressing up, working in the shop wearing - pretending to…”

HUSBAND: “It is not a pretence. There is no pretence. It’s in the office where the pretence is…”

“Oh yes the pretence in the office…and the rat race. And how you’re living in a suit of armour and you can’t breath and so do I mind if you throw it all away and wear knickers and high heals in order to fulfill your true identity? Well I do mind! I’ve had you and your identity up to here!”

 

[knickerbocker glory]

Martina Navratilova's coach Renée Richards was trans (male). They've both said how it improved Martina's game playing with a man.

 

[Peter Out]

You might be forgiven that Stonewall might go back to supporting LGB only but no. Kez will be throwing women under the bus.

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An interesting organisation is old Stonewall. Like the old campaign for the abolition of capital punishment, it should be essentially trying to put itself out of existence - it's reason for being has passed into law. But it's awash with so much taxpayer's cash that it literally can't afford to pull down the shutters.
Gay and les equality achieved? Suddenly it's " Trans Rights".
Trans demands all met? Simply move on to something else.......but what?
And Kezia ? There's someone with a very "interesting" CV.

 

[Notworthy]

Martina Navratilova's coach Renée Richards was trans (male). They've both said how it improved Martina's game playing with a man.

Nearly all, if not all Female Tennis players have Male coaches, at the very least they have a Male hitting partner so Martina wouldn't have gained anything from him that other Women wouldn't have had access to.

 

[Also_smoke_and_mirrors]

Those podcast wankers are talking out of their arses when calling For Women Scotland weird. Look at these beautiful, strong women. Trina Budge was battling breast cancer when FWS was founded and she started doing rallies and other campaigns about a month after her operation. What a warrior.
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Women look perfectly acceptable and get called weird. Men put on a dress and a ratty wig and get called stunning.

 

[funkimunki1984]

What point is this lunatic trying to make? Another deeply unpleasant male p talking absolute nonsense and telling women how to feel and how to behave. duck off you creep!

Bloody skinwalker

 

[knickerbocker glory]

Nearly all, if not all Female Tennis players have Male coaches, at the very least they have a Male hitting partner so Martina wouldn't have gained anything from him that other Women wouldn't have had access to.

Even back then, they were never considered women, and they never considered themselves women.