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BekkaBoo

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This is just pitiful and heart wrenching. He could literally be anywhere.
At this point all anyone can hope for is justice and it’s gonna be hard to get it it seems like
I can't get over his parents. They definitely helped him escape and I think they've lied and misled the police throughout the whole thing. I hope that they will be held accountable.
 
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Icbaaaa

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Did anyone see the tiktok that someone's made a fake account of gabby and commented on Brian's IG post, then posted on the story that she was safe and well and getting medical treatment, trying to contact her family but begging people to leave Brian and his family alone as they've done nothing wrong?

The girl then reversed the ig email and found out the last 2 digits matched Brian's mom's phone number, email account was under the name C. J. Which they thought was Brian's dad (Christopher) but turns out its a woman who's much older but the email address is like gabby1999.
So so bizzare!!!
 
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jackolantern

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I really hope he isn’t dead and not because I give a shit wether he’s dead - but because her family will never have any chance of knowing what really happened and why and that is fucking horrific.
 
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starryeyed10

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I was also shocked the vanlife couple posted that... it was obviously for the views and to promote their channel which is disgusting.
 
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jackolantern

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Everybody blaming the police. They can’t force people apart or just arrest somebody without cause.
I still think the travelling in a small van for months is what caused their arguing and probably ultimately led to her death.

Everything is pure speculation at this point. But some people on the thread has already decided he was an abuser from the get. Not every situation and/or murder means the person was a victim of domestic abuse.
I'm sorry but I hate this crap about travelling in a small van being at fault. It's irrelevant, if he had such an issue he should have stepped away. I don't care how stressed, angry, pent up they were. She's dead. That shouldn't have been the natural conclusion of a couple being confined.

So to me, I don't care if he was an abuser from day one, the fact is at the time of that video, Gabby was clearly incredibly distressed and at risk and I think more should have been done to identify that. As much as people may not like to hear it, 9/10 a woman is always at more risk even if she is showing aggression also. Especially of her size. It doesn't justify her aggression, they were both at fault, but only one of them is currently thought to be dead at the hands of the other.
 
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Grace's Secret

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That’s the most nothing statement I’ve ever heard.

1. Maybe they don’t know where Brian is right this second, but they definitely have known where he is.

2. Maybe they didn’t help him to “leave the family home” because, uh, he’s a grown ass man who can leave by himself but they must have aided him.

Where is their compassion for Gabby, the woman who lived in their house like their own daughter for two years and is now dead, where is the compassion for Gabby’s family, and where is their impassioned plea for their son to come home? They’re nut jobs.
Its so carefully worded.

Not once have they released a statement saying how sad and devastated they are Gabby was murdered. Says it all really.
 
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Veronicaaa

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I have so many thoughts on this and they're all fairly upsetting. I just keep thinking of her stuck in that tiny van with him for months, and all those photos of them both on terrifying cliffs, with him trying to get her away from other people. I can't imagine the kind of mental torture I have no doubt he put her through, even before I start thinking about the physical abuse.
ETA and then I stuck on Married at First Sight last night with all this whirling around in my head, only to see Franky displaying such horrific red flags that he should never have been allowed near this programme. Sometimes it feels like you can't get away from these types of men, they're everywhere. Anyway, long story short, I properly freaked myself out this weekend and hope it's not too triggering for other people, but I guess, as said upthread, it's good that we're talking about it and calling it out for what it is. I hope law enforcement can learn some much-needed lessons, at least.
 
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leigh213

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Sorry to say this but the way the police got involved and the way she was behaving distressed and erratic in front of the police probably angered him....
He reeked of someone trying to amp up their " appearance of calm" while triggered by something. He stayed shaky the whole time, while still fist bumping and telling them he was fine and that they were just "annoyed at so many flies and being dirty".

I showed my Mom the body cam footage tonight as she hasn't had a chance yet to see it, and the first thing she noticed were the bruises on Gabby's arm. How in the hell did the cops pick apart Brians body but not hers?!!? What kind of oversight is this!

Another thing that really unnerves me is actually that family vlogger lady, who lost her son years ago- the one who apparently accidentally got that footage of the van. She was on several videos tonight with MSM interviewing her and she comes off WAY too happy. She acts like everything is such a cosmic blessing and I know she feels like her son led her to the footage that would help find Gabby, but it's still way too sad of a situation than what she was acting on a few stations tonight. Does anybody know what I mean?
 
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Don't tag me, there's a support forum!
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Anyway, lets agree to disagree and not spoil the thread :)
 
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Veronicaaa

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Google what a crime of passion means. It’s basically doing it in the heat of the moment. Has nothing to do with being “passionate”

Anyway the unpopular opinion is that I don’t think he was generally abusive. I think that travelling made then argue and instead of going their seperate ways they stuck it out and one ended up dead
I mean, when someone ends up dead at the hands of a person they're in a relationship with, it's a fairly good indication that some sort of abuse is going on, isn't it?
 
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It's so crazy how the 1 particular police officers kept trying to run with the "see, women can be abusers too!" theory. When he kept bringing up roles being reversed, and her being the aggressor, etc. That's what made him overlook the obvious signs that Brian was the abuser. The 'wounds or scratches' he had on himself were done by her defending herself against him. They should be able to see the difference between defensive wounds.

Men will always back other men. Police failed to look at the situation objectively.
Yep completely agree, totally unprofessional!
reminds me of this guy in my politics class, as soon as you tell him a statistic for domestic abuse against women, he will immediately get defensive and respond with “but what about men.”
Poor gabby, she was desperate for help and no one responded appropriately ☹
 
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SunshineRae

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I imagine if the workers were serving them they were probably discussing holidays and camping etc as its a common interest, so Brian would have potentially known where the couple where staying 🤔
The murder of the 2 ladies happened after the police incidents far as I'm aware
@Aemee00 Yes, it happened the day(s) after. Friday 13th they complained to a friend, while at the bar (Woody's) about a "creepy guy" at their camp and said they were going to move camps (although never got the chance to). Later that night, once they'd left the bar and returned to camp they text their friend saying the "creepy guy" is harassing them in their tent and if they don't make it out they were murdered!!! 😧 I can't get over the fear those girls must have been feeling. To know that was going to be their fate.
14/15th August they were no shows for work.
17th August reported as missing. Also the day Brian flew back to Florida (coincidence or he heard the girls had been reported missing and panicked?!).
18th August friend went looking for them and found Kylen's body first. I think Crystal was found a little later by police or friend, I'm not sure.

Kylen's dad, who refers to them both as "his girls" (to clear any confusion) is still in Moab trying to rally the locals and try to get any tiny bit of information that might help. Awful, awful, awful situations all round whether related or not.
 
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SunshineRae

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I have been totally absorbed in this case since Thursday! I can’t believe I didn’t think to check if there was a thread on it. The investigative work via social media has been incredible. Very ‘Don’t F**k With Cats’ vibes. Thank god that family's dash cam picked up the location of the van or they may not have found her body for many more weeks. It was at least in the circle of area they were searching though.
What are everyone’s thoughts on Kylen & Crystal. I really think they could be linked. Combined with the ‘Lullaby’ book they both love. It’s all too weird.

I feel so, so sad for Gabby’s parents. A lifetime won’t be enough time for them to even remotely recover. Gabby’s mum said that Gabby lived with Brian’s parents for two years. That they were so close and his mum loved her like her own daughter. HOW could they cover for him?
We also only have their word that he went to that reserve on Tuesday. He could still be in their house for all we know! I hope they are arrested and charged for aiding and abetting!! I don’t think he is though. I think he is dead. I just hope there is a note.

If this were in the UK he would have been under caution immediately and not given the change to run and hide! Being able to plead the 5th in cases like this is crazy!
 
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Veronicaaa

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My unpopular opinion is that I understand why the police initially took Brian’s side - we can no longer just work on the assumption that the woman is always being abused and isn’t the abuser.
The police were responding to a 911 call telling them that he'd witnessed BL repeatedly slapping Gabby.
 
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Blue pumpkin

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Strange that the media refer to him as 'gone missing'. Gabby has gone missing. He's gone on the run.
 
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yellowmellow

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I actually disagree with this. We don’t know what Brian told his parents when he came home - he could’ve told them he did something to her or he could have said she walked out or broke up with or goodness knows what. Depending on what he said (and what picture he painted of her), his parents may not have felt compelled to call hers. The first they may have been aware that something was amiss was when Gabby’s dad turned up at their house, for all we know.
Each to their own. In my opinion, regardless of what light he painted her in, this poor girl lived with them for 2 years, she was supposed to be a part of their family. Gabby’s family entrusted him and his family to take care of her in their absence. It would have been common courtesy to check that her parents knew where she was and that she was no longer with Brian. Even just a text “Brian home without Gabby. Hope she is ok?” would’ve sufficed. Like I say, just going off the families I know, and in comparison, the Laundries seem shady as hell.
 
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Zoe88

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He's really calm and joking and Gabby's obviously distraught (in the footage). Which is classic abusive relationship. The victim thinks they're the bad one, which they're clearly not cause she's confessing how she is and being open about her faults and crying cause she doesn't want to cause harm or if she has she's remorseful and he's just stood with no empathy or emotion other than trying to come across as the hard done by partner. I don't get how police can't recognise this behaviour, surely they deal with situations like this a lot??
 
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judgeydrudgey

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FBI Update - apparently Brian’s notebook contained a confession. Such a sad story all around but I’m glad the Petito and Schmidt families know definitively that he was responsible, not that it will make things better.

The report also says “After Ms. Petito’s death, there were several text messages identified between Mr. Laundrie’s telephone and Ms. Petito’s telephone. The timing and content of these messages are indicative of Mr. Laundrie attempting to deceive law enforcement by giving the impression that Ms. Petito was still alive.”

 
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hydeist

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Just saw this
Social media and Websleuths are just really going nuts with every single "clue" on this one and muddying the waters, at the moment it is not worth believing anything until it's reported by actual media or confirmed by FBI/police. People are literally making up any old shit about this to get views on Tiktok and it's fucking disgusting.
 
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