No she did that during the drama so now you can only comment if you follow her
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I'm so tired of the constant influx of ''self-help'' books, especially those marketed at young women. Surely the feminist thing to do is to trust your heart and get your advice from trial and error rather than rely on the patronising words of someone who's consistently been in a more privileged position to you?
I may sound ageist but I feel Florence has not lived life enough to give her take on such level as a book.
I'm a bit 50/50 on this one I won't lie. I don't think you need to have lived an entire life to publish such a book, HOWEVER, Florence has had a really basic life is that makes sense? She's a very privileged white woman, and nothing she says adds to the conversation of Feminism. idk I hope that makes sense and doesn't come off as rude ahaha because I do agree with you
Yes I agree, it is all relative and someone young could have lived more of a life than someone old. However in Florence's case, I think it is not one of those situations that she has lived enough to be looked upto just yet.
Yeah, Florence and I are around the same age with vastly different backgrounds, and even though I'd say I have a fair bit more life experience (dealt with family death at a young age etc) I don't think either of us would have the authority to tell people how to live their lives. I get it if she's aiming her books at a much younger audience and playing the 'knowledgable big sis' role but it seems patronising to have a young, privileged woman act like (and profit from an image of being) a wise sage of feminist wisdom.
Beautiful looking girl but her hair always looks like it needs a right good wash. Blonde hair tends to show the grease less too, in my experience
Very good point
Her latest reel is so annoying I feel like she’s just trying way too hard now like why is her tina always open like that
Very much used to go for Princess Diana look with hair
Absolutely this. I came across Florence properly this week and couldn't quite make my mind up about her at first. She seemed kind of appealing at first but something about her didn't sit right with me. I watched more of her videos, read about the drama with the Slumflower, soaked up her vibe a bit more and decided that no, she's really not a good person at all. She seems very priveleged and yet I noticed she posts these sob story type things about having been broke and struggling to make rent. It seems quite clearly bull. If she came from poverty and is self-made, then fair play, but I hate people who lie about their background to make themselves look more successful. It's ducked up.
It's like how she flashes her arm pits. Trying to be provocative. She's derivative of Sixties/Seventies icons,but they were actually authentic. She's just a total narcissist trying to make money. There's nothing genuine or authentic about her.
I was even wondering if her friends are paid actors? Like in group videos, there's the overweight one, the black one, the trans one, the white tall one. It's like... a bit too on the nose in terms of wokeness? I think her entire bleeping brand is a complete lie. It's all artifice. She's studied 70s style and desperately emulates that style and vibe in a very artifical way. Her opinions are all derivative. Her vibe of enlightened sassy hippy is bleeping bull for someone who is clearly very manipulative and passive aggressive. Even claiming women don't owe men pretty while being obsessed with coming across as cute online. Her entire bleeping brand revolves around wanting the internet to think she's pretty. Urghh, she's really wound me right up.
This doesn't surprise me IN THE LEAST. It seems there's a lot of influencers around at the moment who are pushing out a quirky artsy vibe but don't actually have an artistic bone in their bodies. They're just narcissists who want to wear the clothes, look cute and take the credit for other artists work. It's bleeping atrocious. They're commercial, fake and soulless. Arghhh.
She has hairy armpits so when she poses like a pornstar, it's obviously hella empowering and woke!
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Been trying to think who it is the Florence Given reminds me of. It's Carly from The Inbetweeners. Like to me her vibe is actually kind of similar, like popular mean girl vibes, but if Carly was seventies. And they have similar features...
Just remembered she existed, and had a read through here - also cannot stand her ego-driven social media persona. One thing I've noticed, though - someone posted a screenshot of her IG back in June, and she was on 605k follows.
Five months later and she's grown it to a whopping... 606k.
So it looks like her surge of popularity has worn off, and hopefully this is the start of her fading into the background. Society doesn't need a recycled, image-obsessed white woman telling us that "we don't owe you pretty".
Five months later and she's grown it to a whopping... 606k.
So it looks like her surge of popularity has worn off, and hopefully this is the start of her fading into the background. Society doesn't need a recycled, image-obsessed white woman telling us that "we don't owe you pretty".
I always see the wdop “small edition” in bookshops?
Can we talk about the radio silence from her when Sabina Nessa was murdered? She did nothing but post selfies of her going out at the time. Sorry this is a bit dated, never occured to me to search for a Flo thread. This year has been a horrible year in regard to women safety and women rights and I found it unbelievable there wasn't a single story from someone who's apparently such a die hard feminist.
I'm reading her book now (trying to at least, but it's so dull and honestly just a stream of consciousness) and since I do have an actual uni degree in gender studies and did a whole dissertation on gender, it's just so... unfinished. Empty. The only references being newspaper articles, which, obviously, are on the same level as references off Wikipedia. Granted, I didn't expect a scientific journal from her but this seems like a very simple read to someone who is either very young or has never thought about these kinds of things.
Would just also love to add how in the very intro of the book she says that often times she's wanted to get rid of her femininity by shaving her head and thus she'd avoid sexual harrassment off men on the streets. What a problematic statement Flo's stans just chose to completely ignore. As if there are no assault victims with shaved heads. As if hair equals femininity. As if only feminine women get harrassed. Wtf.
I'm reading her book now (trying to at least, but it's so dull and honestly just a stream of consciousness) and since I do have an actual uni degree in gender studies and did a whole dissertation on gender, it's just so... unfinished. Empty. The only references being newspaper articles, which, obviously, are on the same level as references off Wikipedia. Granted, I didn't expect a scientific journal from her but this seems like a very simple read to someone who is either very young or has never thought about these kinds of things.
Would just also love to add how in the very intro of the book she says that often times she's wanted to get rid of her femininity by shaving her head and thus she'd avoid sexual harrassment off men on the streets. What a problematic statement Flo's stans just chose to completely ignore. As if there are no assault victims with shaved heads. As if hair equals femininity. As if only feminine women get harrassed. Wtf.
I missed the stuff with Slumflower, what was the story?
Pretty sure it’s all covered if you read the thread.
Slumflower said Florence copied her book.
Sumflower wanted said book pulling off the shelves or a large percentage of the sales profit.
Florence attempted to make a donation to a black mental health charity. This was refused by the charity.
Slumflower said she was going to take legal action. She also got dropped from her management which was also Florence's management I believe. Florence went quiet and put out a statement (obviously written for her).
Then I think people just got bored and forgot about the problem.
Thank you for explaining, really appreciate it. So in your opinion who seems to be in the right?
I think the general consensus is that neither had an original idea
but I suppose the slumflower really imploded / self destructed so she probably came off worse, with Florence mostly staying silent and taking an insta break