EU Elections

[Departed member 294]

I really wish we had mandatory voting like Australia.

Doesn’t matter if you don’t agree with any of the parties (and you can select this as an option), but people should be voting, even to voice they don’t agree with anyone.

In aus there’s a fine if you don’t.

 

[MunkyMagic]

Italy, France, Hungary - all going far right. Also the UK if you count the Brexit party.

I pray to god we can sort this out now. If we hold a second referendum it’s the biggest indicator it will be another leave majority. Time to put divisions and arguments aside and try to make the best of it.

REALLY happy with the surge in the Greens.

 

[Departed member 294]

What I don't get is why haven't they counted all the UK ones by now, they've had days to do it

Because they aren't allowed. Counting cannot begin until polls close at the final EU country to vote.

If we counted before then, there is a chance that information is leaked, which could influence other countries and how they vote.

Not every country votes on Thursday. The majority I believe hold votes on Sundays (which makes sense imo).

 

[RachyWoo]

Farage played a game here in my opinion. He knew if he crawled out of the woodwork again with a name like "The Brexit Party" he would get support from Brexiteers frustrated with the Government. I can't stand the man

 

[String Man]

Oh ffs, the Brexit Party are up to 12 now.

Bastards.

EDIT: 15

I can't bear to watch this, I'm off to hate watch Jane Gammons.

 

[MunkyMagic]

I think anyone who thinks it’s a victory for anti Brexit is kidding themselves tbh and the adding up the parties thing is spin, as it excludes tribal votes for LibDems, Conservative who are a self declared Brexit party and the section of Lab who face towards Brexit. There was more motivation for remainers to vote who want to be in the EU, than Brexiteers who don’t. Those percentage tables are comparing No Deal with remain. If it goes to second referendum the true indication is we will vote leave again.

 

[MunkyMagic]

I think the mainstream media and Twitter Twats have a lot to blame for the intense divide between leave and remain. Mainly because of the tone - “leavers” being racist, xenophobic right wing gammon and “remainers” being communist/extreme left socialist, politically correct, middle class college puddings. The name calling and slander causes hackles to rise and entrenchment of position.

Every political compass test I’ve taken has planted me firmly left of centre but I’d vote leave in a second referendum (voted remain in 2016). I don’t like how the EU is going, it’s fracturing, the populists are on the march and membership could drag us into recession into the next few years anyway. Immigration needs to be tempered with investment OUTSIDE of cosmopolitan city bubbles as it’s literally destroying and making poverty traps in towns and villages that still haven’t recovered after the 80s denationalisation of manufacturing industries. An upcoming example being British Steel - collapsing will be catastrophic for Scunthorpe and THOUSANDS of families for generations in the area but under EU rules the government can’t bail it out. Where’s the investment in the area to keep it from relying on one source of employment? Who will help those families, who have added pressure in finding employment from an immigrant workforce who will work on minimum wage zero contract hours and keep heat in the cost of living and housing (don’t forget social housing has been decimated over the years). It’s like Sheffield and the miners all over again.

There is so much to fix in this country, it’s time to get Brexit out of the way and crack on with rebuilding the ruins

 

[String Man]

Overall turnout was only 36.7%. I can't imagine that remain voters turned out in force this time judging by the success of the Brexit Party. You'd think people would have learnt that their vote is important after the referendum results.

What's holding up the last 2 results?

I think this tweet sums it up:

"Conclusion: we're all still furious with each other"

Must admit I went down the tactical voting route this time.

 

[thenomad]

The results for the UK are pretty disappointing so far. Also, France isn’t looking that great either. I mean Le Pen?!

 

[lilblinder]

Oh god Widdi's back after getting thrown around the dance floor she's now throwing her weight around on sky news apparently these results mean the people don't need any other opportunity now to be heard ! Errr yea right O Anne .

 

[RachyWoo]

Oh god Widdi's back after getting thrown around the dance floor she's now throwing her weight around on sky news apparently these results mean the people don't need any other opportunity now to be heard ! Errr yea right O Anne .

That woman just....urgh I've never liked her, Completely pointless politician!

 

[Yel]

Because they aren't allowed. Counting cannot begin until polls close at the final EU country to vote.

If we counted before then, there is a chance that information is leaked, which could influence other countries and how they vote.

Not every country votes on Thursday. The majority I believe hold votes on Sundays (which makes sense imo).

I thought about that but then how have they managed to count all of Wales and west midlands in an hour and a half?

I find the banning of discussing even the voting on TV and radio really outdated now we have the internet, as if some callers on lbc would affect the votes in other countries

 

[Yel]

Because of population density in those areas. Less people, less to count, but they also get less seats per region.

Still seems a bit quick to have counted so many votes compared to a GE, even though there's less. Maybe they started counting early evening?

Tory's heading towards 5th place and still a very divided country. It's just going towards a no deal now if no one can decide.

 

[Departed member 294]

I can't believe that many people voted for Farage.

I don’t think that many people voted for ‘Farage’, I think that’s an over simplification of the issue.

You have a bunch of people who were probably loyal Tory or labour whom felt their party no longer represented them. Within that you probably had leave voters whom felt they were not getting the democracy they were entitled to with regards to brexit. Remain voters who value the democratic system. And some in between who voted as a protest. They voted brexit party.

Then you have those who left labour/conservatives to vote Lib Dem/green etc. And those who stayed loyal.

I think a minority actually voted with the mind set of wanting Farage himself in a position of power.

Love him or hate him, ‘he’s’ just stormed an election with a 6 week old party that has no manifesto. I didn’t vote brexit party, but I understand the reasonings for why people did. I personally think when we get to a point where we start belittling people for the way they voted, you are going to end up with more issues that before.

 

[Tulips]

If there's a General Election before the leave date, I can't really see Farage wanting to be Prime Minister and everything that entails tbh, it just seems like he wants to get out of Europe no matter what and doesn't care about the consequences (or party policies beyond Brexit by the sound of it). He'll be laughing all the way to the bank along with the likes of Reece-Mogg, etc, whilst the rest of us plebs get screwed. I think he did have a point when he said certain countries shouldn't have joined the Euro currency ( I'm glad we didn't either) but not much else. I'll never forget that disgusting poster he unveiled; it happened to be not long before poor Jo Cox was murdered. It may have been a coincidence but I'd hate to think it emboldened some nutjob to go ahead with it. It was very irresponsible of him to say he'd pick up his rifle if Brexit doesn't go ahead, he must know some people would hang on to his every word.

I fell into the trap of thinking the EU was bombarding us with all these rules and regulations but it's only for our good at the end of the day imo. They don't implement any rules without our go-ahead and we're the ones who came out with a lot of the Health & Safety stuff apparently.


It never made sense to me why Brits living or working in other EU countries weren't eligible to vote in the 2016 referendum, considering this would've had a direct impact on their lives. I reckon it would've swung the vote and we wouldn't be in this mess. It saddens me to hear so many medical and care home professionals understandably no longer feel welcome and have left the UK. Let's hope that £350M on the side of that bus wasn't all lies.

 

[Mayday]

I don’t think that many people voted for ‘Farage’, I think that’s an over simplification of the issue.

You have a bunch of people who were probably loyal Tory or labour whom felt their party no longer represented them. Within that you probably had leave voters whom felt they were not getting the democracy they were entitled to with regards to brexit. Remain voters who value the democratic system. And some in between who voted as a protest. They voted brexit party.

Then you have those who left labour/conservatives to vote Lib Dem/green etc. And those who stayed loyal.

I think a minority actually voted with the mind set of wanting Farage himself in a position of power.

Love him or hate him, ‘he’s’ just stormed an election with a 6 week old party that has no manifesto. I didn’t vote brexit party, but I understand the reasonings for why people did. I personally think when we get to a point where we start belittling people for the way they voted, you are going to end up with more issues that before.

I totally get why a lot of people voted for the Brexit party, as they voted with the thought they would then deliver Brexit, but I still can't imagine voting to put Farage in a position of power. I'm sure he was trying to get Brexit to happen as quickly as possible instead of trying to get the best deal (which as much as I dislike May as well, she seemed to be trying to do), which imo could be catastrophic.

 

[Departed member 294]

Bit late for that, it's what we've been experiencing ever since the bloody referendum.

Yup. And I’ve been saying that long before the referendum even happened.

Ignore your constituents, enjoy the shit show!

 

[Yoghurtpots]

Eek politics! Such a touchy subject but we are all entitled to our opinion.
I for one want to leave the EU, as soon as possible. I think immigration is putting huge pressure on schools, social housing and the NHS. We should have a system like Australia where by you have to have to have a profession to offer the UK and means to afford your own house. The majority of the UK feel this way and want out. May and Co are snakes that get big fat cheques from the EU to put up and shut up. I welcome Farage, he will hopefully get us out and put the people who are already here first.

 

[String Man]

Ah, fucks sake

 

[Yel]

What I don't get is why haven't they counted all the UK ones by now, they've had days to do it