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Meg78

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Hey everyone šŸ‘‹šŸ»

Soā€¦.. obviously Iā€™m here because I struggle to have a healthy relationship with food. But, I wanted to tell you all about why, as some of you may have spent your entire lives beating yourselves up and feeling guilty about something that was never in your control.

Imagine going to a weight loss club, at first you feel excited and motivated, you learn to count whatever it is they count, you follow the social media accounts, you get a buzz from expertly pulling off a recipe, you go to the weigh ins and the first few go really well, nice big numbers coming off each week, and then one week, it plateaus, suddenly that buzz wears off, youā€™re frustrated that each week thereā€™s barely any movement on the scales, the more you try the worse it gets, you start to dread the weigh ins and starve yourself on those days, take your shoes off, your cardigan off even your jewellery in the hope it makes a difference on the scales, and the more you tell yourself to stay on track the harder it is, you start to skip weigh ins because you donā€™t need the judgement, and before you know it youā€™ve sacked it off, lost your mojo, this weight loss method didnā€™t work, just like the rest.

I have ADHD and I am pathologically demand avoidant. Some may wonder why this matters, ā€œIā€™m not hyper this wonā€™t apply to meā€ - well Iā€™m not hyperactive either -it is so much more complex (and common) than the stereotype led us all to believe! Iā€™m clumsy, terrible balance, always knocking into the corners of furnitureā€¦ I interrupt people when theyā€™re speaking, if I wait until they finish I forgot what my point wasā€¦ my two modes are obsessed or avoidant, I either spend 2 days solid staring at Pinterest making plans, or put off a simple chore for two weeksā€¦ I find myself trapped on the sofa or in my car a lot, zoned out scrolling, I get annoyed with myself because I have things to do and Iā€™m very aware Iā€™m being lazy but the more I push myself mentally to get up the harder I fight backā€¦ every piece of homework in school was left to the very last minute, every exam crammed for the night before, my time keeping has always been terrible but I thrive under pressure, give me multiple tasks and imminent deadlines and I will shine! And, most importantly, every single time I tell myself that I have to diet, that iā€™m going to be healthy, within days I slip, obsessing over junk cravings and finding ways to sneak snacks or a high calorie lunch, telling myself itā€™s a one off, ā€œget it out of my systemā€ā€¦ only itā€™s never just the once.

So, if any of that feels familiar to you, you could well be struggling with a form of neurodivergence. Iā€™ve never been hyperactive, I was generally a good (if always late) student, I needed no help in school and until recently had never considered there to be an issue, yet here I am, fully diagnosed and mind blown at why I struggle so much with this area of life. ADHD is basically short-hand for ā€œdopamine seekerā€ we need it at a much faster rate than a typical brain, so we seek out anything that gives us a rush; gambling, drugs, sexā€¦. Itā€™s no surprise that the most easily accessible addictive substance, food, becomes a problem. Add in the common complication of demand avoidance and itā€™s a recipe for disaster!

There will be some who read this and find that it doesnā€™t resonate and thatā€™s ok, weā€™re not all the same, but there will be a few out there who feel seen for the first time, a lightbulb comes on and everything starts to make sense, and if thatā€™s you, I want you to know that there is so much help and support out there, so many tools and methods to help you accept who you are and understand why your brain doesnā€™t dance to the beat of the same drum. Whatā€™s happening to you is not your fault, you cannot control something you didnā€™t see, but there are lots of ways to help yourself beyond the usual demands of weight loss fads ā¤
 
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shadowcat5

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Been going back and fourth about making this thread but it's something I really struggle with and my new years resolution was to get it under control. so I thought maybe others would struggle with it too and we can have a support thread on here for it. I couldn't see another thread on this.

I had anorexia growing up and I recovered but I still struggle with eating and using food for comfort.

I've been speaking to my therapist about it and we came to the conclusion that it's a lot to do with loneliness and safety.
 
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Catsandcoffeechoc

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I struggle with binge eating a lot. I'm 31 and I've been binge eating since a child. Its usually crisps, chocolate and biscuits. It's a cycle I can't seem to break.
I wasn't overweight as a child or teen but I started to gain weight about 20 years old but then lost 3 stone and got to a healthy weight. I then kept it up until I had my son. Lost the weight again and then gained 4 stone. I stayed at 15 stone until I had my daughter then I've got to about 17/18 stone and for four years I haven't managed to control my weight. I did manage to diet and lose two stone back in 2020 but it went straight back on.
I'm addicted to sugar eat a family size chocolate bar a night or bag of sweets. Sometimes biscuits in between. Its so embarrassing I try to calorie count and last not even a day.
I haven't weighed myself recently but I'm probably close to 18 stone and I'm only tiny at 5 foot. I don't take care of myself and completely hate how I look. I'm jealous of people who can wear nice clothes and hate going out now. We moved area 6 months ago so I now have no friends in the area. All I do is stay at home when my kids are at school and the eating in the evening seems to be my way of pacifying the loneliness.
Anyway sorry for it being so long! But I haven't told anyone else I have a binge eating and food addiction.
 
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shadowcat5

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I have autism and I have ADHD traits. I want to mention more about it an emotional eating but I don't have energy atm

That said: I do find that working out what my dopamine gratification is food-wise and incorporating into my meals helps. I love salt and fat so I try to make sure I have salty foods with my meals and make sure I have healthy fats. I have other issues that result in emotional eating but that does help
 
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Glittery1

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Iā€™m so glad to have found this threadā€¦. I need HELP.

Im mid 30s, always was slightly bigger as a child (and I mean slightly - not overweight at all, very sporty and active but loved my food. However, kids were cruel and I was called fat from primary right through secondary school.

I left school bigger than my friends at around a size 14.

I finished school, joined WW with my mum and managed to lose almost 3 stone in a very quick space of time and was delighted to be a size 8-10. For the first time in my life I was the same size as all the other girls my age. I know slimming clubs get a bad reputation nowadays, but I can honestly say I loved WW first time round - there was no obsessing, just enjoying food I loved and also plenty of days off to go drinking and partying with my friends. I just picked up the next day and the weight flew off me.

I only maintained this for a year, got into a relationship, stopped WW and spent all my spare time with my first boyfriend eating - takeaways, meals out, huge bags of sweets and bars of chocolate. I went back to a size 14 very quick and then a 16.

Bigger than ever I got pregnant and off course ballooned to 20stone. I never lost that baby weight šŸ˜­

I spent the next 15 years being a mum, prioritising everyone but myself and in all honestly didnā€™t care what I looked like. Although every single day I vowed ā€˜this is itā€™ and each day I started a new diet - some days calorie counting, some day fasting, some day slimming world but never sticking to them. Always ending the day with a binge

I took control last year and lost 5 stone. From January to September I walked 10K steps everyday and counted calories. I didnā€™t miss a day and didnā€™t cheat once. Then in September I had a meal and drinks out with a friend and since then Iā€™ve been locked in a binge cycle - Iā€™m out of control and have gained 2 stone back šŸ˜­

I got Christmas over and have said everyday Iā€™ll start tomorrowā€¦ start in the morning and by afternoon Iā€™m binging. Disgusting amounts, Iā€™m scared to get on the scales as itā€™s bound to be more than 2stone now.

I really believed last year I was cured I canā€™t believe Iā€™m back here.

I donā€™t know why I do it. Honestly thereā€™s no trauma or problems, I really believe itā€™s just pure greed!

sorry this ended up longer than expected. Not sure what Iā€™m asking. Has anyone beat this? And advice šŸ„“
 
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Meg78

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Omg thank you, I can relate to every line in this!
Can I ask you to share some of the resources that helped you heal your relationship with food?
It would be great if you could share some tools or tips that you find helpful, Iā€™m sure there are many people out there who struggle with something similar x
Most important thing to keep in mind is that your brain will dig itā€™s heels into the ground and pout about doing anything that doesnā€™t have a reward attached, itā€™s why meal prepping gets left behind, why we zone out scrolling when we have a huge list of choresā€¦. No reward at the end? Pffffft! Youā€™d think being healthy and slim and happy would be a great motivator but the parts of the brain seeking out dopamine want instant gratification, theyā€™re only interested in short term gains not long term, so you have to think about food and your relationship with it in a whole other way, weā€™re all told to have an end goal but that doesnā€™t work for this kind of brain, you need much shorter targets.

Second thing to remember is that your brain will insist on doing a task in the most efficient and also the most thorough manner. Why is that important? Because if thereā€™s no reward in it you wonā€™t be able to start and if you do start youā€™ll probably never finish, think about all those times youā€™ve needed to get up and clean somewhere like the bathroom but canā€™t face it, you already know if you go in with the intention to just wipe a surface youā€™ll also need to put things back in cupboards and if you do that youā€™ll notice they need a clean too and since youā€™re cleaning you should also do the bath aaaand none of that has a reward for you, itā€™s not efficient itā€™s time consuming and has endless opportunity for bonus missions also with no reward so your brain avoids it because it can find far easier and quicker sources of dopamine without the effort! How about the times youā€™ve been hungry and want lunch but youā€™re stuck doom scrolling here on tattle instead, youā€™re hungry and want food, how easy would it be to make a sandwich, but youā€™re supposed to be eating healthily and that involves loads more prep and healthy food doesnā€™t give you the dopamine rush like this lovely warm sofa and instant knowledge at your fingertips and ooh look thereā€™s chocolate in the cupboard, letā€™s just stay hereā€¦ā€¦

So we need efficient tasks with short targets that have a reward at the end. Sounds simple, right? Youā€™d think weekly weigh ins with a shiny sticker would help achieve that, only the sheen on that rush ends pretty quickly sadly, and me handing over a huge list of books would see you all rush out, buy them, and then keep rereading the first three chapters because you got distracted or lost interest as waddya know, thereā€™s no reward in reading either!

I found the most success in learning about my food, the processes in how they make things like burgers, the vitamins and what each one does, learning about how they are antagonists to each other and that I could gamify what I eat to absorb more good things, for example having a beef burger with tomato as the vitamin c and iron binds to each other, and avoiding dairy for two hours either side as calcium stops iron being absorbed. From everything Iā€™ve learnt iron and vitamin d are pretty crucial vitamins for us! I made a point in checking in with myself a few hours after eating something processed, I rarely ever felt good it was usually sluggish or headaches or hungry again already! I noticed how crippled the nhs is and that every time I choose junk Iā€™m also choosing to one day be a chronically ill patient. I started to notice that the rush I used to get from junk food wasnā€™t enough of a pull to make me buy it, I check every ingredients list and if it sounds like a science experiment I put it back, Iā€™m pretty firm with myself about checking every ingredients list nowadays as it really does help to stop my brain interpreting the junk as a reward.

Of course, this strategy only works if your brain still fulfills its reward quotas, so at the same time as reconditioning your brain to stop seeing food as a consequence-free tasty drug rush, you need to find yourself another outlet that works for you; this is very subjective, for some thatā€™s crafting or learning a new instrument, for others thatā€™s exercise, for those like me who prefer a more swamp demon-esque life of laziness I initially chose online shopping addiction ā€¦. šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø yip, really. I do not recommend this as a lifestyle choice but itā€™s a trap others could fall into so Iā€™d rather be honest and tell you all! My dopamine hit now comes from an area I donā€™t have a word for, I now find excitement in trying to get my bills down as low as possible, finding ways to get my supermarket shop for free for example, finding cashback or vouchers, sort of like that American show Extreme Couponing only not quite as much mental illness. Itā€™s something that keeps me motivated as my challenge is to keep the cost of healthy foods down in a world full of junk, and I use places like M&S so I can buy the fancy fruit as a treat for myself (oh god maybe this IS mental illness) you all see what Iā€™m getting at though Iā€™m sure, right now your brain is using food as itā€™s most time efficient way to dopamine, it doesnā€™t matter which diets you try or what methods you put in place to manage it, until you replace your most efficient route it will continue to tread the way to the drive thru.

Just as you find yourself putting off a task your brain will put off making the change and the more you force it the harder it fights back, try to gradually assimilate information in a fun way, look for adhd memes, watch short tv shows or YouTube clips about how food is made, check ingredients list, focus on whatā€™s in it instead of the calories, does it sound like one of Elon Musks kids names? Nope in the bin you go! Keep the humour and creativity about the ways you seek out learning materials, donā€™t give yourself a list, find curiosity, look for something that interests you and pursue it, just make sure that if youā€™re choosing junk food youā€™re doing it as someone who is educated on what exactly is in it and how that will affect your body, remind yourself that this will hurt you but there are other ways to get the hit you need.

Lastlyā€¦. Fail to prepare, prepare to fail! Help yourself by prepping in advance for the areas you know you fall down; are you impulsive? Do you go to the supermarket armed with a list but leave with a dozen goodies you didnā€™t need? Switch to cash only, or online click and collect. Donā€™t tell yourself to get up and meal prep, buy the things in, doesnā€™t have to be fancy most kitchens have rice and beans in the cupboard, wait until youā€™re already at the kitchen counter and then itā€™s time to think ā€œweā€™ll since Iā€™m already here I could just cook up some rice for the week, pretty efficient and quick, actually whilst I wait for the water Iā€™ll just chop some veg tooā€ā€¦.etc, find ways to satisfy efficiency and reward, and donā€™t focus on the food focus on where else you can get a reward whilst working on this, there is no guilt or shame, if the method you tried didnā€™t work thatā€™s ok, letā€™s just try a different way, be proud of yourself for trying and having the courage to try again. You cannot help or change the way you were born so stop holding yourself to standards that arenā€™t designed for you, you live in an age with more availability and freedom of choice than we have ever seen before, these foods are designed to be addictive but youā€™re intelligent and resilient and absolutely capable of making sustainable changes to your everyday life ā¤
 
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soph30

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I wish there was as much support for emotional eating as there was for say drinking. Iā€™ve tried downloading sobriety apps but it doesnā€™t work as weā€™re not going cold turkey with junk, weā€™re just cutting down. Iā€™ve tried applying the same principles but it doesnā€™t work :)
 
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Snippysnips

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I don't know what it is with food that makes me struggle the way I do, because I can tell myself no, I know I have that power to say no to the junk

But my problem is I either go through those no stages an eat once or maybe twice a day, or go through a stage where am eating everything in site plus can only think of what to eat next, I just cannot seem to get a healthy balance where am eating proper meals during the day an occasional having the odd treat

It's either bascially not eat or eat everything, but it's not driven by weight either, I don't think to myself I shouldn't eat because of weight nor think I should eat everything because I couldn't care about weight
 
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smellsofbiscuits

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Hey everyone šŸ‘‹šŸ»

Soā€¦.. obviously Iā€™m here because I struggle to have a healthy relationship with food. But, I wanted to tell you all about why, as some of you may have spent your entire lives beating yourselves up and feeling guilty about something that was never in your control.

Imagine going to a weight loss club, at first you feel excited and motivated, you learn to count whatever it is they count, you follow the social media accounts, you get a buzz from expertly pulling off a recipe, you go to the weigh ins and the first few go really well, nice big numbers coming off each week, and then one week, it plateaus, suddenly that buzz wears off, youā€™re frustrated that each week thereā€™s barely any movement on the scales, the more you try the worse it gets, you start to dread the weigh ins and starve yourself on those days, take your shoes off, your cardigan off even your jewellery in the hope it makes a difference on the scales, and the more you tell yourself to stay on track the harder it is, you start to skip weigh ins because you donā€™t need the judgement, and before you know it youā€™ve sacked it off, lost your mojo, this weight loss method didnā€™t work, just like the rest.

I have ADHD and I am pathologically demand avoidant. Some may wonder why this matters, ā€œIā€™m not hyper this wonā€™t apply to meā€ - well Iā€™m not hyperactive either -it is so much more complex (and common) than the stereotype led us all to believe! Iā€™m clumsy, terrible balance, always knocking into the corners of furnitureā€¦ I interrupt people when theyā€™re speaking, if I wait until they finish I forgot what my point wasā€¦ my two modes are obsessed or avoidant, I either spend 2 days solid staring at Pinterest making plans, or put off a simple chore for two weeksā€¦ I find myself trapped on the sofa or in my car a lot, zoned out scrolling, I get annoyed with myself because I have things to do and Iā€™m very aware Iā€™m being lazy but the more I push myself mentally to get up the harder I fight backā€¦ every piece of homework in school was left to the very last minute, every exam crammed for the night before, my time keeping has always been terrible but I thrive under pressure, give me multiple tasks and imminent deadlines and I will shine! And, most importantly, every single time I tell myself that I have to diet, that iā€™m going to be healthy, within days I slip, obsessing over junk cravings and finding ways to sneak snacks or a high calorie lunch, telling myself itā€™s a one off, ā€œget it out of my systemā€ā€¦ only itā€™s never just the once.

So, if any of that feels familiar to you, you could well be struggling with a form of neurodivergence. Iā€™ve never been hyperactive, I was generally a good (if always late) student, I needed no help in school and until recently had never considered there to be an issue, yet here I am, fully diagnosed and mind blown at why I struggle so much with this area of life. ADHD is basically short-hand for ā€œdopamine seekerā€ we need it at a much faster rate than a typical brain, so we seek out anything that gives us a rush; gambling, drugs, sexā€¦. Itā€™s no surprise that the most easily accessible addictive substance, food, becomes a problem. Add in the common complication of demand avoidance and itā€™s a recipe for disaster!

There will be some who read this and find that it doesnā€™t resonate and thatā€™s ok, weā€™re not all the same, but there will be a few out there who feel seen for the first time, a lightbulb comes on and everything starts to make sense, and if thatā€™s you, I want you to know that there is so much help and support out there, so many tools and methods to help you accept who you are and understand why your brain doesnā€™t dance to the beat of the same drum. Whatā€™s happening to you is not your fault, you cannot control something you didnā€™t see, but there are lots of ways to help yourself beyond the usual demands of weight loss fads ā¤
Bloody hell, I clicked on this thread as I was thinking that I definitely have an unhealthy relationship with food (no official diagnosis). Your post has absolutely described me to a T.

I tried to get an ADHD diagnosis four years ago but the assessing psychiatrist said it was unlikely I had it due to being educated to post-grad level. Since then I've toyed with self medicating that aspect by taking vitamins, gamifiying water intake ABC exercise as much as I can etc. But food is where I massively fall down. I joke to my friends about not having chocolate in the house due to lack of self-discipline. But it's not a joke, if you know what I mean?

Can I ask you to share some of the resources that helped you heal your relationship with food?
 
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Been going back and fourth about making this thread but it's something I really struggle with and my new years resolution was to get it under control. so I thought maybe others would struggle with it too and we can have a support thread on here for it. I couldn't see another thread on this.

I had anorexia growing up and I recovered but I still struggle with eating and using food for comfort.

I've been speaking to my therapist about it and we came to the conclusion that it's a lot to do with loneliness and safety.
I feel like you've described me to a t struggled with anorexia as a pre teen and in my teens and now i eat for comfort and feel i use it as a crutch but its hard because i thought i was faf when i was a teen and now im actually f*t (I'm gonna do this to not trigger people) its just so difficult and i hate myself but i feel because its something i do to myself its my fault and i should be able to fix it i eat fairly well (as can be) in day but it gets to night and the snacking is out of control maybe because im bored i am on quetiapine so that cant help šŸ˜…
 
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Iā€™ve got a bad relationship with food, Iā€™m definitely a comfort eater. I was on a medication that impacted on my weight (Lithium) and Iā€™m embarrassed at how heavy I am (I wonā€™t even tell my husband what the scales say).

At the moment, Iā€™m at the correct headspace to lose weight. I had once lost weight at a slimming class and I donā€™t think thatā€™s helped the bigger picture - I lost 2lbs my first week and Iā€™m gutted because I should be losing a lot in my first week given how much I weigh.

If Iā€™m not in the right headspace I secret eat and at the time it feels amazingā€¦afterwards I feel awful and on it goes.

Thanks for starting a thread on this ā¤
 
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And, most importantly, every single time I tell myself that I have to diet, that iā€™m going to be healthy, within days I slip, obsessing over junk cravings and finding ways to sneak snacks or a high calorie lunch, telling myself itā€™s a one off, ā€œget it out of my systemā€ā€¦ only itā€™s never just the once.
I'm not diagnosed with ADHD or autism which also seems to be related to demand avoidance, but I have this. So much.

For me it's about never being loved for who I am now / was as a child and not wanting to change to be deserving of love.

Which kind of work agains me trying to love my body and to get healthier so I can have a full and fun life, as my weight is definitely a detriment to some things I would like to achieve.

But it still triggers this massive middle finger to everyone wanting me to be "pretty" to be liked. The rational part of my brain is aware that thin doesn't mean pretty and fat doesn't mean ugly, but my parents definitely let me feel they disliked me a lot whenever I gained weight as a child. My dad at least had a lot of contempt for my weight gain (narc who makes everything about him, including my weight gain and sexual appeal which is gross af but here we are). And my mum enabled it and she also was pretty disgusted by me.

If I think about it too much I feel sick with disgust and rage tbh, so no wonder avoid this topic like the plague.
 
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Megansnarkle

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Iā€™m so glad to have found this threadā€¦. I need HELP.

Im mid 30s, always was slightly bigger as a child (and I mean slightly - not overweight at all, very sporty and active but loved my food. However, kids were cruel and I was called fat from primary right through secondary school.

I left school bigger than my friends at around a size 14.

I finished school, joined WW with my mum and managed to lose almost 3 stone in a very quick space of time and was delighted to be a size 8-10. For the first time in my life I was the same size as all the other girls my age. I know slimming clubs get a bad reputation nowadays, but I can honestly say I loved WW first time round - there was no obsessing, just enjoying food I loved and also plenty of days off to go drinking and partying with my friends. I just picked up the next day and the weight flew off me.

I only maintained this for a year, got into a relationship, stopped WW and spent all my spare time with my first boyfriend eating - takeaways, meals out, huge bags of sweets and bars of chocolate. I went back to a size 14 very quick and then a 16.

Bigger than ever I got pregnant and off course ballooned to 20stone. I never lost that baby weight šŸ˜­

I spent the next 15 years being a mum, prioritising everyone but myself and in all honestly didnā€™t care what I looked like. Although every single day I vowed ā€˜this is itā€™ and each day I started a new diet - some days calorie counting, some day fasting, some day slimming world but never sticking to them. Always ending the day with a binge

I took control last year and lost 5 stone. From January to September I walked 10K steps everyday and counted calories. I didnā€™t miss a day and didnā€™t cheat once. Then in September I had a meal and drinks out with a friend and since then Iā€™ve been locked in a binge cycle - Iā€™m out of control and have gained 2 stone back šŸ˜­

I got Christmas over and have said everyday Iā€™ll start tomorrowā€¦ start in the morning and by afternoon Iā€™m binging. Disgusting amounts, Iā€™m scared to get on the scales as itā€™s bound to be more than 2stone now.

I really believed last year I was cured I canā€™t believe Iā€™m back here.

I donā€™t know why I do it. Honestly thereā€™s no trauma or problems, I really believe itā€™s just pure greed!

sorry this ended up longer than expected. Not sure what Iā€™m asking. Has anyone beat this? And advice šŸ„“
Is the problem that you take an all or nothing approach? You say that last year you walked every day and didn't 'cheat once' and that all it took was a meal and drinks with a friend to put you into a binge cycle. Even if you're trying to lose weight you should plan in treats to keep you going and make it sustainable. Whether it's a small pizza and G&T on a Saturday night or a fun size Milky Way as an afternoon treat with a cup of tea, plan in sensible sustainable treats. If you calorie count then in theory no food should be off-limits, you just need to plan around it. So, if you've had a heavy gym week then get a burger, or switch out a side of fries for a salad and get the dessert you fancy.
 
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I was a binge eater from 17- 24. Was horrible. I got over it by getting to the source of the problem and with therapy. Im distanced from my family and my friends are my family now. Im successful in my personal life and thats helped. Yes i felt unloved. You can get over it. Get to the route of the issue and tackle it from there. No matter how hard it is. You will relapse i still do occasionally but i dont beat myself up over it as im so much better than i used to be.

Been going back and fourth about making this thread but it's something I really struggle with and my new years resolution was to get it under control. so I thought maybe others would struggle with it too and we can have a support thread on here for it. I couldn't see another thread on this.

I had anorexia growing up and I recovered but I still struggle with eating and using food for comfort.

I've been speaking to my therapist about it and we came to the conclusion that it's a lot to do with loneliness and safety.
Yes i was lonely and used food to fill that gap. Im so glad you have a therapist and getting to the route of the issue. Its a long road but you will get there
 
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Meg78

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I don't know what it is with food that makes me struggle the way I do, because I can tell myself no, I know I have that power to say no to the junk

But my problem is I either go through those no stages an eat once or maybe twice a day, or go through a stage where am eating everything in site plus can only think of what to eat next, I just cannot seem to get a healthy balance where am eating proper meals during the day an occasional having the odd treat

It's either bascially not eat or eat everything, but it's not driven by weight either, I don't think to myself I shouldn't eat because of weight nor think I should eat everything because I couldn't care about weight
It sounds like youā€™re in a deprivation cycle, think about your genetics for a moment, your ancestors didnā€™t have supermarkets, theyā€™d survive on whatever they could hunt or forage, so days of starvation and hunger and when they catch something theyā€™d gorge themselvesā€¦. Itā€™s no different for you, even though youā€™re not interested in food, your biology assumes youā€™ve entered a lean stage of hunter gathering, and once your appetite is back it will go to town! Youā€™d be best to look into blood sugar balancing, as unknowingly youā€™ll be causing yourself huge swings up and down which will cause you problems later on
 
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Glittery1

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Hey everyone šŸ‘‹šŸ»

Soā€¦.. obviously Iā€™m here because I struggle to have a healthy relationship with food. But, I wanted to tell you all about why, as some of you may have spent your entire lives beating yourselves up and feeling guilty about something that was never in your control.

Imagine going to a weight loss club, at first you feel excited and motivated, you learn to count whatever it is they count, you follow the social media accounts, you get a buzz from expertly pulling off a recipe, you go to the weigh ins and the first few go really well, nice big numbers coming off each week, and then one week, it plateaus, suddenly that buzz wears off, youā€™re frustrated that each week thereā€™s barely any movement on the scales, the more you try the worse it gets, you start to dread the weigh ins and starve yourself on those days, take your shoes off, your cardigan off even your jewellery in the hope it makes a difference on the scales, and the more you tell yourself to stay on track the harder it is, you start to skip weigh ins because you donā€™t need the judgement, and before you know it youā€™ve sacked it off, lost your mojo, this weight loss method didnā€™t work, just like the rest.

I have ADHD and I am pathologically demand avoidant. Some may wonder why this matters, ā€œIā€™m not hyper this wonā€™t apply to meā€ - well Iā€™m not hyperactive either -it is so much more complex (and common) than the stereotype led us all to believe! Iā€™m clumsy, terrible balance, always knocking into the corners of furnitureā€¦ I interrupt people when theyā€™re speaking, if I wait until they finish I forgot what my point wasā€¦ my two modes are obsessed or avoidant, I either spend 2 days solid staring at Pinterest making plans, or put off a simple chore for two weeksā€¦ I find myself trapped on the sofa or in my car a lot, zoned out scrolling, I get annoyed with myself because I have things to do and Iā€™m very aware Iā€™m being lazy but the more I push myself mentally to get up the harder I fight backā€¦ every piece of homework in school was left to the very last minute, every exam crammed for the night before, my time keeping has always been terrible but I thrive under pressure, give me multiple tasks and imminent deadlines and I will shine! And, most importantly, every single time I tell myself that I have to diet, that iā€™m going to be healthy, within days I slip, obsessing over junk cravings and finding ways to sneak snacks or a high calorie lunch, telling myself itā€™s a one off, ā€œget it out of my systemā€ā€¦ only itā€™s never just the once.

So, if any of that feels familiar to you, you could well be struggling with a form of neurodivergence. Iā€™ve never been hyperactive, I was generally a good (if always late) student, I needed no help in school and until recently had never considered there to be an issue, yet here I am, fully diagnosed and mind blown at why I struggle so much with this area of life. ADHD is basically short-hand for ā€œdopamine seekerā€ we need it at a much faster rate than a typical brain, so we seek out anything that gives us a rush; gambling, drugs, sexā€¦. Itā€™s no surprise that the most easily accessible addictive substance, food, becomes a problem. Add in the common complication of demand avoidance and itā€™s a recipe for disaster!

There will be some who read this and find that it doesnā€™t resonate and thatā€™s ok, weā€™re not all the same, but there will be a few out there who feel seen for the first time, a lightbulb comes on and everything starts to make sense, and if thatā€™s you, I want you to know that there is so much help and support out there, so many tools and methods to help you accept who you are and understand why your brain doesnā€™t dance to the beat of the same drum. Whatā€™s happening to you is not your fault, you cannot control something you didnā€™t see, but there are lots of ways to help yourself beyond the usual demands of weight loss fads ā¤

Omg thank you, I can relate to every line in this!

There are boys in my family diagnosed with ADHD but no females, yet Iā€™d say your post would resonate with my daughters too.
 
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Hey everyone šŸ‘‹šŸ»

Soā€¦.. obviously Iā€™m here because I struggle to have a healthy relationship with food. But, I wanted to tell you all about why, as some of you may have spent your entire lives beating yourselves up and feeling guilty about something that was never in your control.

Imagine going to a weight loss club, at first you feel excited and motivated, you learn to count whatever it is they count, you follow the social media accounts, you get a buzz from expertly pulling off a recipe, you go to the weigh ins and the first few go really well, nice big numbers coming off each week, and then one week, it plateaus, suddenly that buzz wears off, youā€™re frustrated that each week thereā€™s barely any movement on the scales, the more you try the worse it gets, you start to dread the weigh ins and starve yourself on those days, take your shoes off, your cardigan off even your jewellery in the hope it makes a difference on the scales, and the more you tell yourself to stay on track the harder it is, you start to skip weigh ins because you donā€™t need the judgement, and before you know it youā€™ve sacked it off, lost your mojo, this weight loss method didnā€™t work, just like the rest.

I have ADHD and I am pathologically demand avoidant. Some may wonder why this matters, ā€œIā€™m not hyper this wonā€™t apply to meā€ - well Iā€™m not hyperactive either -it is so much more complex (and common) than the stereotype led us all to believe! Iā€™m clumsy, terrible balance, always knocking into the corners of furnitureā€¦ I interrupt people when theyā€™re speaking, if I wait until they finish I forgot what my point wasā€¦ my two modes are obsessed or avoidant, I either spend 2 days solid staring at Pinterest making plans, or put off a simple chore for two weeksā€¦ I find myself trapped on the sofa or in my car a lot, zoned out scrolling, I get annoyed with myself because I have things to do and Iā€™m very aware Iā€™m being lazy but the more I push myself mentally to get up the harder I fight backā€¦ every piece of homework in school was left to the very last minute, every exam crammed for the night before, my time keeping has always been terrible but I thrive under pressure, give me multiple tasks and imminent deadlines and I will shine! And, most importantly, every single time I tell myself that I have to diet, that iā€™m going to be healthy, within days I slip, obsessing over junk cravings and finding ways to sneak snacks or a high calorie lunch, telling myself itā€™s a one off, ā€œget it out of my systemā€ā€¦ only itā€™s never just the once.

So, if any of that feels familiar to you, you could well be struggling with a form of neurodivergence. Iā€™ve never been hyperactive, I was generally a good (if always late) student, I needed no help in school and until recently had never considered there to be an issue, yet here I am, fully diagnosed and mind blown at why I struggle so much with this area of life. ADHD is basically short-hand for ā€œdopamine seekerā€ we need it at a much faster rate than a typical brain, so we seek out anything that gives us a rush; gambling, drugs, sexā€¦. Itā€™s no surprise that the most easily accessible addictive substance, food, becomes a problem. Add in the common complication of demand avoidance and itā€™s a recipe for disaster!

There will be some who read this and find that it doesnā€™t resonate and thatā€™s ok, weā€™re not all the same, but there will be a few out there who feel seen for the first time, a lightbulb comes on and everything starts to make sense, and if thatā€™s you, I want you to know that there is so much help and support out there, so many tools and methods to help you accept who you are and understand why your brain doesnā€™t dance to the beat of the same drum. Whatā€™s happening to you is not your fault, you cannot control something you didnā€™t see, but there are lots of ways to help yourself beyond the usual demands of weight loss fads ā¤
Thank you for posting this ā¤ I was diagnosed with ADHD as a young kid and I guess I havenā€™t changed much since then ā€” I am indeed hyperactive, a huge procrastinator and have a history of panic attacks, depression, EDs, obsessive behaviour and so on. Self-sabotaging is my middle name and your post made me feel seen and understood. It would be great if you could share some tools or tips that you find helpful, Iā€™m sure there are many people out there who struggle with something similar x
 
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I feel like you've described me to a t struggled with anorexia as a pre teen and in my teens and now i eat for comfort and feel i use it as a crutch but its hard because i thought i was faf when i was a teen and now im actually f*t (I'm gonna do this to not trigger people) its just so difficult and i hate myself but i feel because its something i do to myself its my fault and i should be able to fix it i eat fairly well (as can be) in day but it gets to night and the snacking is out of control maybe because im bored i am on quetiapine so that cant help šŸ˜…
I am the same. I try and eat a healthy meal but I still end up at mcdonalds. It's such a vice now and I hate it.
 
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