Daniel Goyal
www.newstatesman.com
”Medical Consultant”
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”Medical Consultant”
Gnomic Gnome
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I was speaking in general. Even for medical doctors, becoming ‘Professor’ is a significant marker of esteem that will be actively bestowed by a university. It’s not just because they simply have a doctorate, and want to avoid being Dr Dr!
If DG is a professor, he would probably have an institutional affiliation with a university, which would include a staff profile in the relevant department or research unit.
If DG is a professor, he would probably have an institutional affiliation with a university, which would include a staff profile in the relevant department or research unit.
VeniVidiVicki
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He’s still doing it though just not overtly if he’s flogging single jabs.
A couple of years back there was a huge outbreak of mumps at U.K. universities as the students were the cohort as the Wakefield scaremongering was at its height. It only stopped because of the pandemic. People who rely on enough other people vaccinating to provide herd immunity are putting their children’s health at risk. And the very small number of children who can’t be vaccinated. Just selfish arseholery.
I’ll hop down from my soap box now
lilykestrel
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Hasn't old Man Behaving
I suppose at least their doctorates are real and involved some actual work
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“Guilt by association”
Amazing how he keeps turning up at places that pump out this crap:
Sincere Health
Brakespear
If there weren't inconsistencies in the rest of the story and he hadn't posted the utter pish he did jizzing all over the Slop Goblin we wouldnt be having this conversation
lilykestrel
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Speaking of Patreon, looks like it's been shelved. Nothing added to it since June when we were last collectively mithering. I'm guessing nobody signed up. Still active though, and he's offering a 7 day free trial. 
Gnomic Gnome
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Medical doctors can become professor by dint of being research active. This doesn’t necessarily involve a PhD, even one by publication as opposed to thesis.I suppose at least their doctorates are real and involved some actual work
Non-medical professors will have a PhD and will have had to work through a university’s very tough promotion framework.
Witchfinder Sargeant
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hard to tell without the company name (there are a lot of "Simon Harris" on Companies House, even if you narrow it down to Essex), but the Big Green Bookshop, run by another Jack fan, was struck off the register in 2020 for not filing its accounts, then restored to the register, then nearly got struck off again in 2021.
We did wonder if he was knocking the back end out of the Slop Goblin and she had told him
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Someone has the receipts for Simon Harris……i’ll see if I can find it
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10324557 is one of them.
Compulsory strike off
11870977 is Covid loan one
12271350 is another compulsory strike
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TheDragonWithAFlagon
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Just priced up the eco toiletries. 13 years later, it just creeps in at £31 online. But they were charging more than that in 2010.
What a racket.
I think he just shut his once his Covid loan came in. Something like that.
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If I needed a Doctor and he turned up, I would be off to see the Wise Woman!
ReadySteadyGrift
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Mr tends to be used for surgical specialites and Dr for general medicine
COVID: It never went away
The former health secretary has said the COVID pandemic is over. The reality could hardly be more different, with high case numbers, staff absences, and a terrible legacy of stress and overworkwww.bma.org.uk
Listed as a Consultant. Although given his politics Im not surprised he’s up the arse of the BMA
Stupid question: But my buddy who IS a consultant (on the specialist register and everything) is referred to as Mr? In that article GOYAL is referred to as Dr. Is this my buddy being a knob or is that normal?
lilykestrel
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Me again
I was mithering to myself about how one can say that one is pro-vaccine whilst appearing in a publication next to MMR wittering.
Well, turns out Breakspear aren't strictly anti-vaccine either. They immunise. Their issue is with the combined MMR jab, cos Wakefield I guess, so they offer single measles and rubella jabs to kiddos (which they import over from India, because UK pharmaceuticals aren't licensed to produce the singles).
Added bonus to that? You can charge £115 a pop for each jab. And then you recommend kids get the MMR when they're older, for the mumps immunity. Just better hope your kid doesn't get mumps before then, I suppose.
Oh also the founder of the Breakspear, the one who got told off by the GMC, decided to give up her GMC licence a couple years ago and is now an "environmental naturopath".
I was mithering to myself about how one can say that one is pro-vaccine whilst appearing in a publication next to MMR wittering.
Well, turns out Breakspear aren't strictly anti-vaccine either. They immunise. Their issue is with the combined MMR jab, cos Wakefield I guess, so they offer single measles and rubella jabs to kiddos (which they import over from India, because UK pharmaceuticals aren't licensed to produce the singles).
Added bonus to that? You can charge £115 a pop for each jab. And then you recommend kids get the MMR when they're older, for the mumps immunity. Just better hope your kid doesn't get mumps before then, I suppose.
Oh also the founder of the Breakspear, the one who got told off by the GMC, decided to give up her GMC licence a couple years ago and is now an "environmental naturopath".
lilykestrel
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Same, and had a search through his admittedly limited tweet archive (not squigged Gurdasani). So apparently the Mums (and there isn't just one on NM) were making it up for shits and gigs / to smear him five years agoI went down a REAL rabbit hole with this yesterday. He’s properly set me off. I think he’s moved away from the autism stuff since the Sincere Healthcompulsory strike off. I can’t find anything related to that specifically later than 2014ish (sorry on my phone so can’t link properly but will fix on my laptop)
Actually I'm not sure if we're allowed to share links like that here but if you search "Dr Daniel Goyle mumsnet" you'll find reviews, some good, others less so
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COVID: It never went away
The former health secretary has said the COVID pandemic is over. The reality could hardly be more different, with high case numbers, staff absences, and a terrible legacy of stress and overwork
www.bma.org.uk
Listed as a Consultant. Although given his politics Im not surprised he’s up the arse of the BMA
Stupid question: But my buddy who IS a consultant (on the specialist register and everything) is referred to as Mr? In that article GOYAL is referred to as Dr. Is this my buddy being a knob or is that normal?
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But that says a lot about his ethics if hes trying to present himself as a Consultant/Specialist when actually he's still a Registrator or something
I still want to know what Internal Medicine is
Unless ive missed a memo most things that break medically, are in fact, internal
chizontiz
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For anybody interested, Tortoise Media (podcast) did a series called ‘Dr Anti-Vax’ that did a deep dive into Andrew Wakefield (who, IIRC, Goyal has connections to from his MMR/autism days?). You can find all the episodes on Spotify.
Goyal doesn’t come up, which I was hoping for, and I doubt the series will reveal anything new to parents/professionals/autistic people who have a vested interest in this area, but it’s a good, comprehensive overview of the whole ‘debate’ for those who may not know all that much but are interested.
Goyal doesn’t come up, which I was hoping for, and I doubt the series will reveal anything new to parents/professionals/autistic people who have a vested interest in this area, but it’s a good, comprehensive overview of the whole ‘debate’ for those who may not know all that much but are interested.
Also as an aside, I’ve been meaning to bring this up in the MT for a while but Tortoise Media is a strange one themselves. I really like their stuff - their ethos is all about ‘slow media’ and taking a deeper look at complex or nuanced breaking news stories. Some of it is very dry but they do a lot of human interest type stories too. On the whole I would really recommend checking them out.
Which is why I find their platforming of Jack so strange! They hosted that weird af talk she did where she hobbled onto the stage and stood up the whole time despite being minutes away from emergency knee replacement surgery. And I think they quoted her relatively recently on something too? They do seem like a media organisation who do do their due diligence/research so I can’t believe they wouldn’t have come across anything her detractors were saying.
AND, one of the best series they did was done by Julie Bindle! Three Doors Down is about a botched investigation into the abduction and murder of a seven year old girl that took 30 years and tireless campaigning from her mum to resolve.
Actually, I suppose if both Jack and JB are controversial figures then journalistically it makes sense to allow them both on - especially as neither of them were discussing anything to do with trans rights (and it’s not as if Jack is the patron saint of trans people, she’s such a hindrance to the community it actually makes little sense to cast her as an opponent of someone like JB).
Even still, Jack does stand out like a sore thumb when you look at everything else they’ve done. It’s curious and annoying because they’re the kind of organisation I’d want to see investigating her!
Which is why I find their platforming of Jack so strange! They hosted that weird af talk she did where she hobbled onto the stage and stood up the whole time despite being minutes away from emergency knee replacement surgery. And I think they quoted her relatively recently on something too? They do seem like a media organisation who do do their due diligence/research so I can’t believe they wouldn’t have come across anything her detractors were saying.
AND, one of the best series they did was done by Julie Bindle! Three Doors Down is about a botched investigation into the abduction and murder of a seven year old girl that took 30 years and tireless campaigning from her mum to resolve.
Actually, I suppose if both Jack and JB are controversial figures then journalistically it makes sense to allow them both on - especially as neither of them were discussing anything to do with trans rights (and it’s not as if Jack is the patron saint of trans people, she’s such a hindrance to the community it actually makes little sense to cast her as an opponent of someone like JB).
Even still, Jack does stand out like a sore thumb when you look at everything else they’ve done. It’s curious and annoying because they’re the kind of organisation I’d want to see investigating her!
Squeaky Beans
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I really enjoyed that podcast series and not at all surprised Goyal is connected to Wakefield!
Like you, I also really like all of Tortoise's podcasts but would really like to see them turn their investigative gaze onto JM. I think her interview with them was more of a general chat so it's not like the wool was pulled over their eyes as such, but it would be a good angle for them to say they were mislead by her too and here's what we found etc etc.
ETA: I would also recommend Marianna in Conspiracyland on BBC Sounds. Small doses though, as it's a thoroughly distressing subject.
lilykestrel
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I don't think he works for Breakspear anymore - he was there before he went and started his own thing on Harley St (Sincere Health, which is now defunct). He's not on their staff page.He’s still doing it though just not overtly if he’s flogging single jabs.
A couple of years back there was a huge outbreak of mumps at U.K. universities as the students were the cohort as the Wakefield scaremongering was at its height. It only stopped because of the pandemic. People who rely on enough other people vaccinating to provide herd immunity are putting their children’s health at risk. And the very small number of children who can’t be vaccinated. Just selfish arseholery.
I’ll hop down from my soap box now
In fact having a look on the Breakspear page, they don't seem to be dealing in autism anymore (it's not listed on their 'conditions' page) ... so that's .... good?
(You're still bang on about the jabs though, ofc)