Donald Trump The 45th and 47th President of the United States #3

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No evidence that this has been negotiated with Trump's backing. I think that they are very diplomatically reasserting Europe + Canada's unity and power and their support for Ukraine, with or without the US.

ETA - collectively agreeing not to publicly piss Trump off knowing what a fragile baby he is, is not the same as kowtowing to Trump.
 
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No evidence that this has been negotiated with Trump's backing. I think that they are very diplomatically reasserting Europe + Canada's unity and power and their support for Ukraine, with or without the US.

ETA - collectively agreeing not to publicly piss Trump off knowing what a fragile baby he is, is not the same as kowtowing to Trump.
Nail on head. Trump will be having a hissy fit behind closed doors. But nothing has been communicated directly to him.

Welcome to real diplomacy Donald. Actions have consequences.
 
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Nail on head. Trump will be having a hissy fit behind closed doors. But nothing has been communicated directly to him.

Welcome to real diplomacy Donald. Actions have consequences.
I’m not suggesting it would or should happen but if this coalition of European leaders got the Peace prize it would be bleeping hilarious 🤣🤣🤣
 
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I think that they are very diplomatically reasserting Europe + Canada's unity and power and their support for Ukraine, with or without the US.
Agreed - Trump said he wants this war to end. He just wants it to end on Russia's terms. He wanted to cut Zelensky out of negotiations. Today's summit sent a message that Europe wouldn't stand for that. What can his comeback possibly be, other than just out-and-out, blatant siding with Russia? He's kind of snookered.
 
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Agreed - Trump said he wants this war to end. He just wants it to end on Russia's terms. He wanted to cut Zelensky out of negotiations. Today's summit sent a message that Europe wouldn't stand for that. What can his comeback possibly be, other than just out-and-out, blatant siding with Russia? He's kind of snookered.
I think he will end up blatantly siding with Russia. A very dangerous position for the US to take, but he gives no ducks.
 
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I think he will end up blatantly siding with Russia. A very dangerous position for the US to take, but he gives no ducks.
It might take that and isolationism for Americans to wake up to the realisation that their administration that spouts propaganda Goebbals would be proud of is acting against their best interests.
 
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I think he will end up blatantly siding with Russia. A very dangerous position for the US to take, but he gives no ducks.
This is what I mean when I ask where is the 'deep state' aka the agencies who maintain America as a superpower? They must know that Putin would just eat America up and spit it out.
 
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Trump reminds me of Jack Woltz in the godfather. Rich, throwing his weight around but when the godfather asks Hagen if he (Woltz) is Sicilian, Hagen says no.

Trumps tough guy is a bullying act, as everyone knows he’s a yellow bellied Captain Bone Spurs
I’m not suggesting it would or should happen but if this coalition of European leaders got the Peace prize it would be bleeping hilarious 🤣🤣🤣

I was thinking the same thing
At this moment I’m really proud to be a european
 
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Russia is no longer the power it once was. Canada can send its oil to Europe and Russia can sent theirs to the US/
 
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It might take that and isolationism for Americans to wake up to the realisation that their administration that spouts propaganda Goebbals would be proud of is acting against their best interests.
Let's hope enough wake up and do so in time to do something about it. Half the population seems there already, but they also seem to be stunned and at a loss as to how to fix things. Doesn't help that the opposition leaders also seem to be stunned into inaction.
 
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This is what I mean when I ask where is the 'deep state' aka the agencies who maintain America as a superpower? They must know that Putin would just eat America up and spit it out.
I suspect the stories of the Deep State as some kind of consolidated faction working together nearly seamlessly for a common set of goals, have been greatly exaggerated. There is no real Deep State or he would not have gotten a 2nd term, regardless of any sort of (possible) election interference on his behalf. It's all bs lies made up to make people think their government was the real enemy. Instead, the US is being isolated and stripped down for parts so those currently in charge can raid it's coffers.
 
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There is no real Deep State or he would not have gotten a 2nd term, regardless of any sort of (possible) election interference on his behalf. It's all bs lies made up to make people think their government was the real enemy. Instead, the US is being isolated and stripped down for parts so those currently in charge can raid it's coffers.
Well, the CIA and the NSA aren't made up. Do they just have to sit back and watch as it happens? Because that would be quite unlike them.
 
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Wow to the abrupt change of tone at the Washington Post

duck Bezos, glad I’ve cancelled my subscription.
 
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Well, the CIA and the NSA aren't made up. Do they just have to sit back and watch as it happens? Because that would be quite unlike them.
They don't and I sure as hell hope someone somewhere has a plan for stuff, but the agencies are made up of human beings and a lot of those are Republicans who are reluctant to do anything to a GOP president. We shall see if their pledge to country matters over party.
 
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