Do we let our cat live with someone else?

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Apologies in advance for the essay I’m about to write. Last September my neighbour passed away and her son didn’t want her cat Dobby so he moved in with my husband and I.
He fitted in instantly in fact it was like he’d always been with us, we got him microchipped and put a cat flap in for him so he still had access to the outdoors.
We had been warned about a woman in the next street having people’s cats in her home but didn’t have any problems until November time.
I noticed Dobby started smelling of smoke both my husband and I smoke but not in the house but didn’t think much of it, until one day he didn’t come home which wasn’t like him at all so I posted on Facebook asking if anyone had seen him and possibly share which they did within about ten minutes Dobby came home minus his collar.

The next day the phone rang and my husband answered, it was the woman we’d been warned about saying she’d gotten our number off his collar and that he’d gotten into her house without her knowledge and that she didn’t know until one of her friends had phoned to say she’d seen a post on Facebook that the cat she looked after had gone missing and she’d found him asleep under her dining table.
She then went on to explain Dobby had been visiting her for a while and was company for her as she was a widower and didn’t leave the house much; my husband fell for the widowed old lady story, me on the other hand started to get suspicious, as firstly she didn’t look after Dobby and remember asking my husband how he could of gotten in her home without her knowing as it wasn’t the weather to leave your windows open in the middle of November.

Fast forward to January and five lost collars later I happened to look out the window and I seen Dobby sitting on the end of our driveway and a woman reaching in her pocket and giving him something so I pretended I was putting something in the bin and went outside, Dobby ran straight to me which seemed to annoy her and she asked quite abruptly “who are you?” So I explained Dobby belonged to my husband and I and it was almost like a flip had been switched she turned into sweet old lady mode and explained she was the woman who Dobby had his sleepover with, I apologised for him being any trouble and asked if he ever was in her house for a long time could she please send him home and not keep him overnight (I never bought she didn’t know he was there) she replied that he was no trouble and her home was Dobby’s second home and repeated what she’d told my husband previously.
Last Wednesday night Dobby went out and once again didn’t come home on Thursday, I had a hunch he was in her house so wasn’t too worried as such a little annoyed if I’m being honest after I’d asked her not to keep him in overnight, I think it was about 10am her son knocked on our door to say Dobby was at his mum’s so my husband thanked him for telling us and to send him home thinking it would maybe be within the next few minutes.
When it got to 7pm he decided to knock on her door she opened the door and Dobby ran out. She asked if her son had told us where Dobby was? And said she’d heard him miaowing about 10pm the previous night and opened her window to let him in and that when she opened her door the next day to let him out he’d been frightened by the recycling lorry so had ran and hid under her bed, my husband gave her the benefit of the doubt as he doesn’t like the recycling truck but mentioned to her it had came at 11am and it was now 7pm she then said how she loves having his company and he was curled up on the chair beside her so didn’t want to wake him.
Saturday morning Dobby went out and disappeared again so got to about 6pm and I went to see if again he was in her house I knocked on the door and waited, nothing, knocked again, nothing, after knocking a third time and being at the door possibly for a good 5 minutes the door opened and she said she’d been in the shower (looking surprisingly dry I might add for someone’s shower I’d disturbed) however I apologised for disturbing her and asked her could she stop allowing Dobby to come in her home now as he was getting in but not getting out and if he did sneak in as she put it to as soon as she realised to send him out, she said again she liked having him and would be sad to see him go but would do as I’d asked.
Sunday morning Dobby went out and again disappeared, my husband knocked on her door to see if he was there, no answer, he went again at 5pm no answer 8pm came and by this point I’d lost patience so I went round and knocked until she answered, she opened the door a crack and Dobby came out and I reminded her that she said she wouldn’t let him in again and that she said she was going to send him straight out if he did magic himself through closed windows and doors, she said he had been under her bed all day but couldn’t get to him, she then opened her front door fully and opened her bedroom door, Dobby ran back in her house so I asked her why she’d done that? She replied she was feeling unsteady on her feet and had leaned on the door handle but that she would send Dobby home later on, I refused and said I would wait at the door until she got him, which she did very reluctantly, and once he was out I asked if she would close her front door now and wished her a good night and closed her gate, but stood to the side where she wouldn’t see me, seconds later she opened her front door and was shaking some treats and calling on Dobby, I asked why she was doing that but she closed the front door so when I got home with him we decided it would be best for him to be a house cat as my husband and I were sure she was trying to take Dobby.
It’s been nearly a week and Dobby has turned into a nightmare, he has put a hole in our hallway carpet by the front door when we slept, he’s scratching and biting us, she phoned again on Wednesday in tears asking us to give her Dobby back and that her life wasn’t worth living without Dobby, my husband said about adopting a rescue and she said she didn’t have the time to jump through the hoops the rescue centres ask, my husband obviously refused to give her Dobby but because she asked to give her Dobby back, he got in touch with our vets and the police to just incase she said Dobby was hers. The vets said they would give proof that we owned him however there wasn’t much they could suggest. The police basically told him that there’s nothing they could do as she was giving us him back when we went for him and he was choosing to go in her house.
Last night after being bitten again my husband was all for just unlocking the cat flap and letting him go saying he obviously doesn’t want to be with us anymore so what’s the point in all the hassle?
I’ve grown attached to Dobby and would be devastated if he didn’t live with us, however I keep thinking the police and my husband have a point he can’t be happy with us.
Are we being cruel keeping him in, should we just let him be with her if that’s what going to make them both happy?
 
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It’s not that he doesn’t want to be with you though - you’ve said multiple times here he comes when you call him. Any cat who is an outdoor cat will respond badly to then being kept indoors all day, don’t take it personally. All my cats are indoor cats but they have never been outside except for the rescues who have no interest in going outside. You could try a bit longer and see if he gets used to it. Is he neutered?
The bigger problem really is it sounds like if you let him out she is going to keep him indoors so that he doesn’t come home to you and he doesn’t like being kept indoors. It’s really not right to just steal someone’s cat either I don’t care how old or sweet this woman pretends to be, if someone took any of my cats I would be devastated.
 
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Persevere with keeping him in. We took in a stray cat a few years ago who absolutely hated being in. After a few weeks (and lots of toys and treats) he will adapt. It also might be worth getting a harness and trying to harness/lead train him and take him for a walk.
He is happy with you though, remember that. He will get used to it. Good luck!
 
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It sounds to me like maybe Dobby likes having his cake and eating it, he likes living with you but spending time with the old lady. Personally I think it might be unkind to keep an outdoor cat inside permanently. I might be a bit soft as I feel a bit sorry for the old lady as she seems lonely and has grown fond of his company but if she is trying to steal him that’s a very different matter.

After our cat died our neighbours cat started coming in our house and sitting with us, then falling asleep on the sofa. Our neighbours just laughed and said they were happy to share him but we never encouraged him in he would run in when we opened the door (sometimes as I was trying to go out which could be inconvenient!) and when he was in we would always leave the front door open or if he fell asleep we might close it but then open it again as soon as he woke up. So I guess I can kind of see both sides of it. Sorry not much help!
 
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Thank you all. He is neutered yes, this is the problem we don’t really have a choice we either keep him in or we lose him, it’s taking her longer and longer to answer the door and eventually I think she’ll just stop answering all together. It has already turned into a battle of wills between my husband and I as, as much as he loves him he’s ready to throw the towel in whereas I think he’ll still be adjusting to staying in doors.
 
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Thank you all. He is neutered yes, this is the problem we don’t really have a choice we either keep him in or we lose him, it’s taking her longer and longer to answer the door and eventually I think she’ll just stop answering all together. It has already turned into a battle of wills between my husband and I as, as much as he loves him he’s ready to throw the towel in whereas I think he’ll still be adjusting to staying in doors.
If you want to keep him in he will definitely adjust but it does take time. I asked if he was neutered because if he’s not then he will start to wail at doors and stuff because he wants to find a partner. If that’s not the case it’s just a waiting game. You can get these plug in things that help calm cats down and they were really handy with all the rescue cats so that might be a good idea for a while. Also get him a scratching post if you haven’t already got one. It sounds like you haven’t got a choice to be honest because she is definitely just going to steal him and if he’s going to be stuck indoors in one house better yours than hers I reckon 🤷🏻‍♀️
 
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So we had a similar ish situation. Our neighbours had 2 cats were never there and the cats moved in with us. We tried for 2 years to send them back constantly, we wouldn't keep them in or anything but after years it became obvious they didn't care. After 5 years the owners moved, and you know what they did, they took the 2 cats with them. Broke my heart. Those cats had spent 5 years with us and were family. We had taken them to the vets etc. But in the end we did what is right.
This woman however is not doing what is right. My thought for your side would be to treat Dobby as if he is a new pet so begin the bonding all over again. Keep him inside feel 2 weeks, then only outside on a leash for periods of time to stop him wandering into her space. Over time he will forget about her. I have a cat where I live now that during summer would walk into my flat when the doors were open every day. I didn't feed it or anything but without fail came in. Even stated climbing in my bedroom window at 3am. During the winter I was away for 4 weeks so it didn't see me, haven't now seen it since before Christmas. Cats are fickle.

Hope you are okay though. That lady is in the wrong and she does need to accept Dobby has a family that wants him not like the cats I spoke about at first.
 
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It sounds like she is an old bored woman trying to get some excitement in her life by getting the neighborhood cats. Keep your cat and persevere keeping it inside for now. There are interesting books about cat psychology you can read, or try some videos on YouTube. It helped me a lot when I got a scratchy kitten years ago.
 
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I would try and give it a month or two of keeping him indoors. Is he the only pet you have? I have a cat and dog they are best friends and she keeps the cat company and he’s an indoor cat (had one knocked down once don’t wanna go through that again) Maybe getting a friend for him inside would help?
I would also get a cat tree, tunnels and plenty of toys to keep him busy. If he’s used to going outside he’ll get bored indoors without any. I would maybe skip the harness as it might be like teasing him taking him a walk when he’s used to freedom outside? But maybe it would work! Hope you sort things out
 
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So we had a similar ish situation. Our neighbours had 2 cats were never there and the cats moved in with us. We tried for 2 years to send them back constantly, we wouldn't keep them in or anything but after years it became obvious they didn't care. After 5 years the owners moved, and you know what they did, they took the 2 cats with them. Broke my heart. Those cats had spent 5 years with us and were family. We had taken them to the vets etc. But in the end we did what is right.
This woman however is not doing what is right. My thought for your side would be to treat Dobby as if he is a new pet so begin the bonding all over again. Keep him inside feel 2 weeks, then only outside on a leash for periods of time to stop him wandering into her space. Over time he will forget about her. I have a cat where I live now that during summer would walk into my flat when the doors were open every day. I didn't feed it or anything but without fail came in. Even stated climbing in my bedroom window at 3am. During the winter I was away for 4 weeks so it didn't see me, haven't now seen it since before Christmas. Cats are fickle.

Hope you are okay though. That lady is in the wrong and she does need to accept Dobby has a family that wants him not like the cats I spoke about at first.
That’s awful that they did that to you, especially when it sounds like you took better care of them than they did.
I wouldn’t mind as such him being in her house if I knew she was giving him an option to leave such as leaving a window open or opening the front door for him to leave but she isn’t, I have no idea what he’s done when he’s needed the toilet. Also if the worst came to the worse and he did leave us for her I know she wouldn’t look after him properly which worries me, by the smell that hits you when she opens the door she’s a chain smoker and Dobby absolutely reeks like an ashtray, which can’t be good for him health wise and I know she wouldn’t take him to the vets for his flea & worming treatments and vaccinations.

I would try and give it a month or two of keeping him indoors. Is he the only pet you have? I have a cat and dog they are best friends and she keeps the cat company and he’s an indoor cat (had one knocked down once don’t wanna go through that again) Maybe getting a friend for him inside would help?
I would also get a cat tree, tunnels and plenty of toys to keep him busy. If he’s used to going outside he’ll get bored indoors without any. I would maybe skip the harness as it might be like teasing him taking him a walk when he’s used to freedom outside? But maybe it would work! Hope you sort things out
Thank you. We actually kept the bits we got for him when he moved in with us so he has a scratch post and his basket of toys. Will look into a cat tree though. I’m hoping it’s just the equivalent of a teenager throwing a strop when they get grounded and eventually he’ll adjust. I just feel so awful, I feel like he hates us.
 
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That’s awful that they did that to you, especially when it sounds like you took better care of them than they did.
I wouldn’t mind as such him being in her house if I knew she was giving him an option to leave such as leaving a window open or opening the front door for him to leave but she isn’t, I have no idea what he’s done when he’s needed the toilet. Also if the worst came to the worse and he did leave us for her I know she wouldn’t look after him properly which worries me, by the smell that hits you when she opens the door she’s a chain smoker and Dobby absolutely reeks like an ashtray, which can’t be good for him health wise and I know she wouldn’t take him to the vets for his flea & worming treatments and vaccinations.
Potentially maybe look to discuss with the RSPCA if this carries on being an issue as that is an animal welfare issue. I mean potentially she has cat litter but obviously you don't know. The other option is to look at a civil case, she is holding onto your property. Police won't get really involved they never do, but I can imagine this woman wouldn't like being threatened with legal action. Never a nice route to go down but who knows?
 
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I'd just keep him in and take him out in the garden on a harness with an extender lead a few times per day. Or just with you if he wont run off. I've done both with mine and I go out with them all the time.
 
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That’s awful that they did that to you, especially when it sounds like you took better care of them than they did.
I wouldn’t mind as such him being in her house if I knew she was giving him an option to leave such as leaving a window open or opening the front door for him to leave but she isn’t, I have no idea what he’s done when he’s needed the toilet. Also if the worst came to the worse and he did leave us for her I know she wouldn’t look after him properly which worries me, by the smell that hits you when she opens the door she’s a chain smoker and Dobby absolutely reeks like an ashtray, which can’t be good for him health wise and I know she wouldn’t take him to the vets for his flea & worming treatments and vaccinations.


Thank you. We actually kept the bits we got for him when he moved in with us so he has a scratch post and his basket of toys. Will look into a cat tree though. I’m hoping it’s just the equivalent of a teenager throwing a strip when they get grounded and eventually he’ll adjust. I just feel so awful, I feel like he hates us.
I think you’ve answered your own question here, you are his owner and you take better care of him so keep persevering at keeping him indoors. He will get used to it eventually and you won’t be happy in the long run if you give up and let her have him, not knowing if she’s looking after him
 
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That’s awful that they did that to you, especially when it sounds like you took better care of them than they did.
I wouldn’t mind as such him being in her house if I knew she was giving him an option to leave such as leaving a window open or opening the front door for him to leave but she isn’t, I have no idea what he’s done when he’s needed the toilet. Also if the worst came to the worse and he did leave us for her I know she wouldn’t look after him properly which worries me, by the smell that hits you when she opens the door she’s a chain smoker and Dobby absolutely reeks like an ashtray, which can’t be good for him health wise and I know she wouldn’t take him to the vets for his flea & worming treatments and vaccinations.


Thank you. We actually kept the bits we got for him when he moved in with us so he has a scratch post and his basket of toys. Will look into a cat tree though. I’m hoping it’s just the equivalent of a teenager throwing a strop when they get grounded and eventually he’ll adjust. I just feel so awful, I feel like he hates us.
the other thing I’d try is the plug in stress relievers you get I think someone else mentioned it! And possibly some catnip, they go crazy for that
 
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I have a friend who has a similar situation but kind of in reverse - her elderly neighbour has a cat who kept coming to her house , they basically now share the cat, if that makes sense? seems to work well for both of them tbh thye just kind of spok about it and made an agreement about expenses (medical things etc)
 
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Sorry to be mean to this old lady but she sounds like abit of a crazy cat hostage taker.

Keep him indoors and let him out on a long lead. And potentially change your phone number.
 
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Thank you everyone, I think it’s just going to be a case of persevering with keeping him indoors, I just worry my husband will get sick of Dobby attacking him and let him out. Slightly off topic but with lockdown and me wfh and my husband being furloughed we’re starting to grate on each other being around each other 24/7 pretty much we’re arguing a lot more than we used to so I’m also a bit worried if this is going to cause more problems for us, the last thing we needed at the moment is something that would put us on completely different pages.
 
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