Diren Kartal

[Scragbags]

I've done 3 of his px's and really enjoyed them! Lost 1st 6lbs & didn't feel pressure to do it. I definitely made an effort to interact on the twice weekly calls & Diren replied to any emails i sent him so a totally different experience for me. Calls were at awkward times considering I'm a single mum but I made it work & no issue with my kid running about in the background. I definitely wouldn't consider myself a 'mega fan' just someone needing a bit of guidance & got it from him. On a personal level, I think the messages to the FLW are terrible but professionally his programme did exactly what he promised it would for me. Different strokes for different folks!

You joined to message this one message at 1am (unless you're in a different country of course..) and the only message you liked is saying he is a ride... Nice try diren

 

[brandambassador]

i have said this on james thread so for anyone here.
I stupidly signed up for Project X last year when my baby was about 6 weeks old. from the ads, it seemed you were answerable and accountable to Diren and I preferred that idea of being accountable as opposed to usual online programs. More fool me! so it was 175 english pounds at the time for 6 weeks. I think since then he has moved it to a 4 week/month program. Anyway.
You sign up via the website, enter your weight and height and it tells you your daily calories. No recipes/sample food plans. It then asks you Qs which then deterine if you are basic, intermediate or expert level of training/exercise so you get one sheet of suggested work outs and suggested times per week. From his insta now, it would appear that he has videos on line going through this but i didnt have that in the october group. So the accountability. The month i did it, there was 176 people in my group. There was a facebook group set up whereby Diren was the only admin and only the admin could post. So he would do a group zoom on sundays at 10am and post in the link to the group a few mins before hand. They werent interactive except a few fans who would have a NEATUP 247 tshirt or hat on and he would call them out to cheer them on. The weekly zooms were just his usual talk about protein or carbs etc, similar to insta content and not anything specific. There was also a group whatsapp set up but Diren was not in the group. A girl called Lynsey who was doing some work for him was in charge of the whatsapp group and to be honest it was chaos. anyone who didnt have a job, kids or anything else to keep them busy just constantly poste their food or quotes all day long. Not their fault but 176 people in a group chat was chaos! I emailed Diren on week 2 saying i was struggling and i never heard back. Then on week 3 he emailed that i had missed a check in, he wasnt messaging to know was i ok or did i need help, he was emailing to tell me if i was late checkin in again he would kick me out. I didnt partake anymore after that i felt lost. It is gas the amount in my group that were REPEAT members, they had done other Project X's with him, some are just super fans! anyway, it was a total waste of money. At least James one is cheap, i calculated he made 22.5K from our group alone that month, for what, for 6 sunday zooms and a facebook group we couldnt interact in.

 

[leeeeleeee]

He is 100% doing this for clout.

Look at how quickly he was on Sky News. The awareness is already happening because of journalists and charities. It’s like white people going to a country in Africa or South East Asia to volunteer for a day or 2.

With his platform (if you would call it that) and his money (which he has plenty of), he needs to be building temporary accommodation, bringing trauma informed therapists and specialists to the area to support the children and families who no doubt will have PTSD, bringing teams of workers to clear the rubble, look for survivors. Some areas have no help at all.

This is an email from my colleague whose family are there:

I am emotionally drained and can't comprehend the sheer scale of the disaster. Everything seems pointless. Watching people's desperations and hearing loved ones being in agony is unbearable.

It is worse than what we are shown on TVs.
I heard from a doctor who is a part of group of voluntary doctors ( who are trying to help others in an organised way) that the city ( the half city is destroyed) where we lost our aunty ( my uncles' wife, such an amazing person) and her mother, smells of rotten corps and there are thousands of dead bodies all over the city. I saw on Sky News bodies lying on the payment and no one claiming them. It is not right. It is not acceptable. It is extremely sad.

Overwhelmed hospitals ( if they are still in use), exhausted staff and thousands of people homeless and in shock, in the freezing cold, without a shelter or food. The government was nowhere for 3 days. So many places have had no help especially villages. They are left to their own faith.

The WHO says they fear deaths amongst people who escaped the earthquake; some will die in the freezing weather conditions and some will catch diseases ( no sanitation, no water, no electricity, no toilet, etc.)

I can't accept that my aunty was under the rabbles for 3 days and waited to be saved. We all know that every minute is/was important.
My uncle and cousin did everything in their power without getting any help from the government, only on the 3rd day she was taken out while her mother was still under the rabbles, but died on the way to the hospital. Too late! Too devastating!
How will my uncle and cousin recover from this? They heard her cry for 3 days and tried everything they could to find machinery and tools in agony, anger and frustration that they could pull them alive.
All in vain.
How can they overcome this ordeal?
Yet there are thousands of people like them.
I can't just understand nor accept what has happened.

Maybe he can’t hit the ground in a devastating natural disaster zone in a country that has a personal connection to him and immediately know what to do? I honestly can’t believe anyone is finding fault with this despite what you think of the bloke normally. He’s doing a good thing.

 

[leeeeleeee]

If he doesn’t share it, he can’t raise money? But he’s repeatedly said he doesnt want any donations until he really can see what’s needed and what can help people, and he’ll share it all so people know 100% where the money is going.

You can fault a lot of things but surely not this! He’s not sitting on his couch playing sad music showing videos of the earthquake he’s on the ground. Hats off to him.

 

[AgentSmith]

Dirat, the facts:

Racist/abusive, yes the big R: despite being Turkish Kurdistani, Dirat has gone after disabled Asian kids, Asian accents and ‘ashy skin’ black skin. Funny he thinks that being an ethnic minority gives him immunity to act like that. Wrong Dirat. And the front line worker abuse video is just a glimpse into what he is like when the mask slips...

Conman: he’s scamming naive, vulnerable people. This utter son of a bitch would be doing pyramid marketing, Juice Plus, FX trading courses or ripping off grannies selling them expensive double glazing if he didn’t find this latest scam. Pay him £200 for a PDF and what’s app group..!? My heart breaks for those poor victims, his scam won’t last for ever... ...He’s managed to make 20-30k, if good people like @coachtomraredom spread the word, people will click onto it and help put an end to his illicit income. Crack dealers have more honour...

Physically weak: having trained with him, (and James Smith), I can confirm, pound for pound, despite training near daily weights, grappling with some top levels guys and girls and being a big lad, he is relatively weak as fuck! And this is probably why, at the peak of his life, being able to train full time, he’s never done any combat sport competitions... ...There’s a look/feel you get from some guys who act overly tough, he

has it, it’s hard to explain, but under the act he actually seems fragile and frightened. James might be an absolutely shite grappler, but at least he’s willing to test himself(and mostly lose). Dirat is a serial failure in football/rugby/cross fit/BJJ/Thai boxing/you tuber/PT. He’s so so desperate to be an ‘Alpha male’, ‘last pick’ Kartal deffo has some demons in this department...

Toxic: He has a draining effect on the gun atmosphere. He’s rude, cocky, and doesn’t pay his way. Let me give you a stat, Dirat and the whole insta clique (8 that I have met), have combined followers of 1.5 million, YET, YET, they have brought ZERO, YES ZERO new sign up for a struggling gym... ...never underestimate the power of ‘normal’ people who can bring 1-10 new, nice sign ups. The whole insta followers things is a massive lie/con. They make people believe they can bring business in exchange for free training. When in reality Dirat(and his crew) has legitimately led to people leaving the gym. He was breaking EVERY lockdown rule and was coming to the gym after mixing with that other idiot Olima, when Olima had COVID...

Abusive to women: I mean I kinda don’t care because she’s (Felicity Rosina) a nasty piece of work too, but this weird emotionally abusive relationship with Felicity shows his dark, narcissistic side... ...using an idiot whilst he is in London, till he can find a better option. Goes after women in the comments, and sends abusive videos, I guess deep down, he knows that the wrong video to the wrong guy would see him literally get slapped in person...

Two shitter: when you talk to him, you get an idea about how thick he is, and to top it off, he’s a massive two shitter. He always knows somebody that has done it more or better... ...like talking to a thick, mean child. I would be happy if he stayed in Australia...

 

[Baps oot]

Like I say looking at these comments his plan has worked you can’t call a bloke all the names under the sun then all of a sudden lick his arse. Never believe an influencer on what they’re posting as it’s never what it’s cracked up to be but some ppl just can’t see through it

Nobody’s “licking his arse,” It’s called being human and seeing a bit of good being done in a living nightmare for all those innocent people that have been affected so badly! This is what this is about…nobody else! Nobody’s forgotten about him being a dick usually, but on this occasion, have a bit of a heart for the good that’s been done here! No wool has been pulled over our eyes, I’m definitely not easily manipulated!!! Some of us just have a heart and have put our bitterness towards him to the side through all this! Maybe you should try it! I’m sorry but you’re coming across really heartless here!

 

[Londoncailín]

Thought it was about time that this absolute melt had his own thread.

Summary: a general nobody, who thinks he’s somebody. Hanger on of James Smith’s coat tails, Poundland gangster, frontline worker bully, and occasional boyfriend of Felicity ‘Duracell Bunny and Poundland Disney princess’ Rosina/Smithers.

AKA Dirat (excellent name, courtesy of @AgentSmith)

 

[JBnosey]

See Diren has went to Turkey to help after the earthquake. Must say hats off to him for that. He said he wanted to help in some way and has actually went out there to do it. I know some people might say he's doing it for clout but at least he's actually doing something rather than just sitting at home saying it

 

[Baps oot]

You think hes not doing it for clout?? Why couldn’t he go there and not tell anyone? He’ll be living it up somewhere nice and handing out supplies to the less fortunate and filming it. Same as the ppl who film themselves giving to the homeless. A leopard doesn’t change its spots. Hes doing it for himself not to help anyone

i think if he went there and didn’t tell anyone, then it would be a missed opportunity to share the devastation that has caused so many fatalities!

I personally think everything he does is for clout, but hat off to him for this! Maybe some of it is, but fair play to him for using his “followers” for raising awareness and money for something good!

 

[Itsonlyme28]

I think the front line worker that he sent those voice messages to, still posts on the James Smith thread every now and then.

Hi
Here's the lovely video the road man sent me

 

[Baps oot]

I honestly can’t believe people are saying he’s doing this purely for likes and profile! What happened to trying to see the best in everyone? Ok the guy has been/ is a tool, but c’mon, give him a break on this one! Any support for these poor people in these horrid circumstances deserves all recognition!

 

[Sour Pickle]

I wouldn’t gift him one of my shits.

 

[Luckymum]

Travelled extensively mid global pandemic most recently to Aus for his 'essential' role as MC in the James Smith tour but really just to escape the neggy UK vibes and let man live without any restrictions. Not so different to the Dubai z-listers really who he loves to call out for selling skinny tea etc. Instead Dirat sells bargain basement fitness plans under the guise of being a fully personalised plan accountable to HIM when you really just get a PDF and access to some group chats.
Several people now have been on here now who joined and none were giving glowing reviews.

 

[Steeler25]

Just received the most professional email from you know who...

 

[Londoncailín]

That time I walked away from marriage

Diren Kartal <[email protected]>
Sun 2/01/2022 2:03 AM

I've had a bit of crazy day

It started busy with work and followed through with mixed emotions about some shit that happened in the past.

I'm talking about this because it actually helps me, also gives you an indication of what I'm like I guess

Also might explain to you why I love my life so much right now.

#deardiary

I won't lie I'm good with being vulnerable about most things but not great about this topic

In 2017 I went through something that actually created some fuc*ing trauma in my head.

I walked away from a 7 year relationship where I actually walked out of a wedding a couple months out and yes I was the groom.

Girls that reading this are thinking

"Diren you're a scumbag"

In my defence, I didn't want to be in my 30s, suicidal and regret every decision in my life.

I knew I wanted more for my life and knew if i went ahead with it, it would have ruined me.

This is me being dead serious about that last comment, no bants what so ever, I wouldn't joke about that shit.

It was a tough time, I broke my best friends heart and still havent really forgiven myself or really processed it.

fu*k me I'm actually typing this on an email #fuckit

So today I was thinking about why I have trust issues, why I find it difficult to trust girls that have been in my life or are in my life.

It's because my kindness and care has been taken advantage of in the past due to other peoples insecurities,
which affected me in a way that I feel like I have to protect myself

It also has probably caused me to do shit that I shouldn't have done maybe.

It's mad right, when you think someone loves you you think they would never take advantage of you.

Truth is people do, they don't always do it on purpose but they do.

Well the wrong people do anyway.

When someone relies their whole happiness on your existence it's fu*ked

It's toxic, creates stress, pressure and does not end well.

Today I was looking at some messages I was getting from my X and you know what, fu*k me no wonder I have fear of being trapped.

Yes you should never allow past experiences to dictate what you do today but man a lot of things I just read made me realise how crazy that time was.

I havent really spoken about it or thought about in detail.

Sometimes it takes a special person to talk to you without any judgment about these topics.

Those people are special and when you find them, make sure you look after them.

I have it and I'm grateful for it.

This is me talking about a very personal and vulnerable topic.

I could go into more detail but to be honest I don't want expose that person or their insecurities which led them to be like that.

All i can say is, I'm working through it and you should too.

I've had a lot of clients that have been open with me about their bad habits around food and training

once they open up about it their progress is just unreal

with Project X I create this environment

A healthy, trusting space that helps you fix what's in your mind which leads to unreal physical progress.

It's takes strength to open up about these things and i'll be there to support and help you grow

For all details about what's like to be in the Project X fam

>>>> Click here

Maybe one day I'll do a podcast about it. When the time is right.

What a big pile of nonsense. Is this written by a grown man? Is this what is considered a good quality marketing email these days? Do people willingly part with their money after reading this? I have so many questions

 

[MJW]

I've seen bowls of alphabet spaghetti make more sense than some of these scamfluencers daily emails.

 

[Bugger.lugs]

Do you know what? Diren could probably earn a decent living by working in a gym and doing 1-1 again. Instead of trying to be James Smith 2.0 - he'd have all his own clients as well as all of James' fan girls.

He'd be minted. But he just can't fucking back down because he wants a job that he can do an hour's work a week and get rich for

 

[leeeeleeee]

It may be a good thing what hrs going but hrs still doing it for clout or he’d keep it private!! People don’t change overnight hrs spinning this for the likes and it’s working looking at the comments.

I respect your opinion but for me, I think he’s using his profile to raise money. If he kept it quiet and it was just him on the ground, he’d have a lot less impact than him on the ground with money from followers donations. He’s also raising awareness, keeping it top of mind so people donate more rather than it becoming yesterdays news. Gosh they so rarely do anything good, these self serving influencers, I am loving seeing what I think is something great he is doing for the right reasons.

 

[DaisyDaisy87]

Why would you want dinner with Diren? the arrogance of these guys thinking they’re some sort of celebrity is insane. I’d rather dinner paid for with my husband or friends thanks!

 

[MJW]

Stop posting Diren Kartel in the Diren Kartel thread!!!