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Fannii Minogue

If this is him, and all the signs are pointing that way, how vile to abuse your power like that… it’s horrible. Honestly, if he’d just come forward years ago and said “I treated people in ways I’m not proud of” etc and apologised publicly, while it wouldn’t undo any of these grim things, we probably wouldn’t even be discussing this on here. I don’t think David is a well man…

Piers Morgan sussed him out years ago when he called him one of the biggest frauds in showbiz on Twitter… (I think Piers himself for what it’s worth actually does have some reasonable takes sometimes- it’s just his delivery makes him come across as a smarmy smartarse).

What I WILL say however is that it’s not 100% confirmed it’s Walliams with the injunction out…sadly the industry is full of wronguns and this really could be anyone. If it’s NOT Walliams, and that is still a possibility (if minute), then people dragging his name around like that COULD possibly lead to his demise so that’s why I do think it’s worth being careful here. David isn’t a good guy, has a very perverted mind, and clearly behaved inappropriately in order for the publishers to drop him, but that’s not to say it’s necessarily him with the injunction. PPT could be anybody unfortunately.
 
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Fannii Minogue

Also, I tell you what annoys me with the whole celeb circle, not just in relation to Walliams.

You see clips of various podcasts where they mention “people in the industry talk, if somebody’s rude to staff, we all know about it” etc.

Except those SAME people were happy to sycophantically fawn over Edwards, Schofield, Mills, Wallace, Walliams etc.

I believe it may have been Richard Osman on RIE who really stuck up for Gregg Wallace when he felt the press were giving him a hard time over some sort of day in his life feature. Lots of “everyone who worked on House of Games said he was lovely, never a bad word about him”. This was weeks before he was officially exposed.. so much for “everyone in this industry talks- we know who the wronguns are”. Definitely made me side eye Richard’s own conduct because much like Walliams, Wallace’s conduct had been an open secret for years. And if you're a production runner who feels really uncomfortable with the behaviour of a wealthy celebrity, are you REALLY going to go to Richard Osman about it? Someone who always defends the status quo? It's bull.

There was one of the Radio DJs who said the same about Scott Mills earlier in the year too… I can’t tell you who so don’t quote me on that though. I get that the details are a bit less clearcut on that one but come on…
 
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I think because it's happening on stage, the audience must have assumed it was scripted fun, backed up by everyone else cheering.

I've just seen it, Mark Robson was smiling at first, then when it became clear Walliams was really trying to pull them down, he was not smiling at all. You can see him saying "stop, stop" at the end. Even at the end when Walliams was saying no, that's too far, he still had his hands on Mark Robson's crotch and waistband to keep the threat and domination there.

He would have been inhibited from defending himself because in those days, he would have been treated like he's silly and can't take a joke. And probably has a tiny pen. He had a whole concert hall of people cheering on his attacker like it was some big joke. It must have been very hard to know how to play this public humiliation.
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That's sickening.

Walliams is a total :poop:
 
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Whats horrifying about that attack on M Ronson is that Walliams confidently and openingly,with determined brute strength, doing that to a famous, powerful man.

Frightening to think about what he may have done off stage to regular powerless people.
 
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Cack_Conroe said:
I think because it's happening on stage, the audience must have assumed it was scripted fun, backed up by everyone else cheering.

I've just seen it, Mark Robson was smiling at first, then when it became clear Walliams was really trying to pull them down, he was not smiling at all. You can see him saying "stop, stop" at the end. Even at the end when Walliams was saying no, that's too far, he still had his hands on Mark Robson's crotch and waistband to keep the threat and domination there.

He would have been inhibited from defending himself because in those days, he would have been treated like he's silly and can't take a joke. And probably has a tiny pen. He had a whole concert hall of people cheering on his attacker like it was some big joke. It must have been very hard to know how to play this public humiliation.
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(*Just noted my phone had autocorrected to Robson. I know it's Ronson, no disrespect intended!)
 
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Fannii Minogue said:
Also, I tell you what annoys me with the whole celeb circle, not just in relation to Walliams.

You see clips of various podcasts where they mention “people in the industry talk, if somebody’s rude to staff, we all know about it” etc.

Except those SAME people were happy to sycophantically fawn over Edwards, Schofield, Mills, Wallace, Walliams etc.

I believe it may have been Richard Osman on RIE who really stuck up for Gregg Wallace when he felt the press were giving him a hard time over some sort of day in his life feature. Lots of “everyone who worked on House of Games said he was lovely, never a bad word about him”. This was weeks before he was officially exposed.. so much for “everyone in this industry talks- we know who the wronguns are”. Definitely made me side eye Richard’s own conduct because much like Walliams, Wallace’s conduct had been an open secret for years. And if you're a production runner who feels really uncomfortable with the behaviour of a wealthy celebrity, are you REALLY going to go to Richard Osman about it? Someone who always defends the status quo? It's bull.

There was one of the Radio DJs who said the same about Scott Mills earlier in the year too… I can’t tell you who so don’t quote me on that though. I get that the details are a bit less clearcut on that one but come on…
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I think the biggest problem is that a lot of the wronguns won't risk being inappropriate in situations when they're likely to face consequences. They'll typically target someone of a lower status who doesn't have as much power, someone younger.

For Gregg Wallace, it was mainly inappropriate/sexual comments disguised as 'bawdy' humour which he did apparently direct at 'middle aged women'. But all his inappropriate physical advances seemed to involve staff members/assistants.
He might have been lovely on House Of Games because that's not his show and he's just another guest. He'll know to rein it and be family friendly because it's a teatime show.

Walliams very rarely reined his inappropriate humour in but instead he (and Brand). It's very telling that it was specifically junior staff members at Harper Collins that were warned against Walliams, which is as much about power as it is their age. Same goes for younger fangirls.

Same goes for Russell Brand - many of the accusations against him that took place at work were younger staff members and assistants. For a guy who declared he'd bag any woman between 18-80, isn't it funny that he seemingly never got inappropriate with an older woman on set, like a producer or an executive? It's almost like he didn't go after someone who could actually fire him if they wanted to.

And that's why the whole 'open secret' thing isn't helpful either. If the industry won't do anything tangible to prevent known predators because that 'talent' makes them money, how does that encourage someone to speak out when something happens with a celebrity that "nobody ever says a bad word about"? All because they know not to attack the hand that feeds them?
 
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Lara Stone has just announced she has been diagnosed with breast cancer and is undergoing treatment. I hope their son has good support from her side of the extended family.
 
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Brummiebird said:
Lara Stone has just announced she has been diagnosed with breast cancer and is undergoing treatment. I hope their son has good support from her side of the extended family.
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The cynic in me sees this as deflection but I do hope she is receiving the best care.
 
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Lolly505 said:
I think the biggest problem is that a lot of the wronguns won't risk being inappropriate in situations when they're likely to face consequences. They'll typically target someone of a lower status who doesn't have as much power, someone younger.

For Gregg Wallace, it was mainly inappropriate/sexual comments disguised as 'bawdy' humour which he did apparently direct at 'middle aged women'. But all his inappropriate physical advances seemed to involve staff members/assistants.
He might have been lovely on House Of Games because that's not his show and he's just another guest. He'll know to rein it and be family friendly because it's a teatime show.

Walliams very rarely reined his inappropriate humour in but instead he (and Brand). It's very telling that it was specifically junior staff members at Harper Collins that were warned against Walliams, which is as much about power as it is their age. Same goes for younger fangirls.

Same goes for Russell Brand - many of the accusations against him that took place at work were younger staff members and assistants. For a guy who declared he'd bag any woman between 18-80, isn't it funny that he seemingly never got inappropriate with an older woman on set, like a producer or an executive? It's almost like he didn't go after someone who could actually fire him if they wanted to.

And that's why the whole 'open secret' thing isn't helpful either. If the industry won't do anything tangible to prevent known predators because that 'talent' makes them money, how does that encourage someone to speak out when something happens with a celebrity that "nobody ever says a bad word about"? All because they know not to attack the hand that feeds them?
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He once said that it would probably do him good going with a strong older woman but so far as I know this didn't happen..at least publicly.
 
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Am I right remembering he did similar on stage to that dishy Jeremy actor?
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Yes. Might be in a previous thread or I read it elsewhere. Jeremy Edwards was so angry he didn't do the curtain call (was some sort of charity event).

I do hope JE and/or MR speak up. Now's the time.
 
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Mark Ronson was still in his first few big years when DW did that, so perhaps he didn’t want to muddy waters. He’s certainly in the position to speak now though.
The irony is, if it weren’t DW, DW himself would want to shut down the masses of chat everyone’s having right now. You know, big twitter post kind of tit.

the fucker hasn’t said a thing, obviously.
 
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I've not read any of his books but I've just read this thread from the beginning and seen all the comments about them and given that the first was published in 2008 and how popular they were, particularly with boys, do you think they could be partly responsible for the some of the gross behaviours of many teens/young people today? Obviously I don't know the exact content of them but it seems there was questionable/rude/disrespectful behaviour as a recurring theme and if DW books were thr only books the kids engaged with, I assume nothing else really balanced it out.

It sounds ridiculous now I've written it but it was just a thought I had.... in a similar way to video games being blamed I suppose.
 
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