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Another poster helped jog my memory, Rik as a father was fecked off about some comments Fry made about young people, the story about the reviews was a bit of a whitewash imo.
Thanks for the info, I had no idea. He's definitely voiced some very, very unsavoury opinions about young people.

I read his autobio, Moab is My Washpot, years ago, and there was a bit where he listed things that people shouldn't feel ashamed about. One of them went (paraphrasing because it was a long time ago and I don't have the book to hand) 'no one should be ashamed about who they're attracted to...person of any gender, any race, any age... and I did a double take at 'any age' and was like 'um, actually, I think you should be experiencing some type of self-criticism if you're attracted to a literal child but ok Stephen'.

I know this is the Walliams thread so I'll try not to take up any more space with Stephen Fry chat. I do think it's relevant though!
 
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Agree with all this and just to add it's worse in Greek culture where men will feel no issue in commenting loudly and publicly on your body, your hair, whether you're too large, haven't made an effort, too weird looking, all with the clear expectations that a) they have the right to pass this judgement and b) that you will take on board their comment and do something to fix it so as not to offend with your large bum again

Bonus points if the guy making the comment is your cousin Tzimmi who still lives with his mum at 36 cos no other woman is good enough for him and his fingers are so large and hairy they look like wooly bear caterpillars

Haha! Same in southern Italian culture. The double standards and audacity are both shocking and hilarious.
 
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If I had to guess, I'd say Ross was more of an enabler. As in, he was well aware of his friends' actions (how could he not be?) and was the type to encourage them or laugh it off. He moved in permissive circles at a time when sexist, lad culture attitudes were the norm. His permissiveness might also have extended to not batting an eyelid at sexual assault and grooming.

I do remember an interview he did with Teri Hatcher (Desperate Housewives) on his talk show. I just googled and it must have been way back in 2006. Anyway, she was describing being sexually assaulted by her masseuse and Ross interjected to ask whether she was lying on her back or on her front, just turning it into a joke. Even 14-year old me knew how inappropriate it was to respond to a public SA disclosure like that.
I’ve no idea if he’s actually an abuser himself but that comment to Teri Hatcher is disgusting (I understand she’s a woman that’s been quite open about how traumatised she is from various SA), and if some kind person has time to make a compilation of all the lewd and sleazy things he’s said to women on chat shows and panel shows over the years, he’ll have a pretty hard time wriggling away from current scrutiny by claiming he was just a naive, innocent bystander that had no idea of the open secrets happening all around him. He was also well known in the 90’s and 2000’s for constantly exposing himself to others - M&F - apparently as a “joke”
 
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WHY do some men think exposing themselves is funny? Surely most would expect to get arrested for indecent exposure. I guess it's just yet another bloody power play...
 
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North London resident, these are my impressions on seeing the celebs in real life,
Swam same time as DW many years ago and he made it clear he wasn’t gay as I got into pool but I would only have been saying he was creepy with hindsight. seen in park and always been pleasant, which makes me wonder if it’s important for him to be liked, and this is rightly going to hit him hard also seemed to be a devoted dad, which makes it so sad he couldn’t put that before his sexual preference for vulnerable almost child like fans.
JR in restaurant with wife, seemed to devoted to her. Think he has always been a faithful husband, yes Jane was 16 but already left home and working at Heat and he has proved she wasn’t just to satisfy sexual desire.
RJ, nice guy and not creepy at all.
DB not creepy to me but instant dislike, thought he was rude and arrogant.
S F extremely red faced, very heavy drinker?
Hearsay, never heard anything about RB from those that knew him, which doesn’t mean anything I know! rumour that ML liked young guys and also LF attended swingers party, but was nice and consensual.
I have no idea who RJ or SF is. Please stop using these. The mods have already called this out.

If you don't wish to name these people, then just don't post!
 
The whole thing is making me a bit ill. I was 16 when I started working, I was doing an apprenticeship, living off a tiny amount akin to jobseekers and lived alone in an awful tiny council house. I had nothing but a bed. I had just gotten out of a DV relationship. It wasn’t a secret.

By the time I was 17, my married boss plied me with drink, made moves, which led to sex, and then little pay rises after, helpful favors, disturbing promises , which were all there to shut me up tbh.

The irony was, he was 32 and he thought age of consent was 18. So he fearfully tried to talk me down. I never corrected him.

And the older staff knew what he was like. And they absolutely hated me for it. Not him.

At that age, I was flattered and I was getting monetary top ups so in my weird young I thought I had some control, something I never had.

Now I know I was a vulnerable young girl who lived on two digits a week , who’s career was ruined because a man in charge couldn’t nurture his apprentices into a career because he preferred shagging young girls.

It left me with anger for him, and for the staff who were old enough to step in, and fear for my own child who wants that career now.

This week has brought it all back. Walliams and all his enablers, the ones who knew it was dodgy, the ones who prioritised their own careers rather than whistleblow. Because it would be all so different if it were their child, wouldn’t it?
 
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Hello this may have been asked and answered but are we allowed to speculate on who the second male celeb is that has a gagging order according to the Daily Fail?
 
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I think it’s a bit like if you were at a work meeting and person X was there, that’s different to you having spent a few weeks working with person X on a project.

Just because Lucy has been on a panel show as a guest at the same time as him, it wouldn’t be thought of as “working” with him. If she’d had a recurring part in Little Britain or written a show with him or been his warm up act, that would be “working with him”.
Being in the same panel show is just being in the same studios with him and others, once, for a day, she may not have even seen him or spoken with him outside of the parts that were filmed. I think that’s how she’s thinking of it.
Yeah that's totally fair - I figured they may have filmed it over a day or something so there might have been an element of chatting/mingling, etc but you're totally right in the way you've explained it, thank you.
 
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From the silhouette pic on x it's Matt Lucas. Depressing that we wouldn't be surprised if it were one of six celebs.
 
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Based on no knowledge at all but could it be NF? He has those mysterious health issues. But I would be very sad if it was him.

Matt Lucas on the other hand. His phone messages need some thorough investigation.
 
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Based on no knowledge at all but could it be NF? He has those mysterious health issues. But I would be very sad if it was him.

Matt Lucas on the other hand. His phone messages need some thorough investigation.
Who is NF? Is it Noel Fielding?
(Trying to work out the initials on this thread isn’t always clear).
 
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I have two points to comment upon. Firstly I don't particularly like Lucy, I don't like women that pretend to be stupid for entertainments sake and I have always put her in this category. I couldn't bring myself to watch her initially. But I watched her just now and she appeared authentic to me and she has earned my respect.

My second point, I read somebody earlier that said they do not know a single woman that has not been sexually assaulted and I thought well I haven't been, anyway I can't find the thread again.

But I got thinking, in or around 1995, I am working class from the north west, and moved to London. I got an amazing job as a young accountant working with a multinational group in the finance department in a household name company in one of the best addresses in London. In my first six months, I attended an evening event. My elite group finance team was pretty small, maybe about 15 of us, I was standing in a small semi circle of about half the team in the venue, the other half turned up later and one of them arrived hyper excited with two arms out stretched, he ran towards me, grabbed each of my breasts in the respective hands, "twizzed" them around and then stopped and stood to join our conversation. I have no idea why he did that.

This pales into insignificance compared to what some women have endured. I am not traumatised, I don't have nightmares, but I have never forgotten. It is a memory that sticks with me very clearly whilst other memories of over 30 years old do not. What baffles me most about this incident, is that it did not even occur to me to report it. I am no shrinking violet, I am and was out spoken and especially at work. I went on to hold senior positions in multinationals, but for some reason, I did not make a complaint about that. If it happened today, I don't think there is any doubt that the female involved (me) would complain. I am at least glad about that.
 
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Sorry to use initials - and yes
Didn't really know who he was but having googled, I see he's got the same weird hair, make up and zany clothes set-up as other infamous celeb pervos such as Savile and Brand.

These pervs really have got to pick a better hiding-in-plain-sight disguise.
 
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RE men exposing themselves, the one time in my life I’ve been grateful for my dog’s reactivity was when a guy was lurking in the woods obviously thinking about flashing me as I passed. My dog started growling and barking at him which normally I’d correct but I could see it was keeping this creep away. I shouted, don’t even think about flashing me ‘cause my dog will bite it off. He ducked off thankfully but it’s an area where a lot of women walk or run and it’s just awful to think what could happen.
 
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