David Walliams #2

[StatusWoe]

Another poster helped jog my memory, Rik as a father was fecked off about some comments Fry made about young people, the story about the reviews was a bit of a whitewash imo.

Thanks for the info, I had no idea. He's definitely voiced some very, very unsavoury opinions about young people.

I read his autobio, Moab is My Washpot, years ago, and there was a bit where he listed things that people shouldn't feel ashamed about. One of them went (paraphrasing because it was a long time ago and I don't have the book to hand) 'no one should be ashamed about who they're attracted to...person of any gender, any race, any age... and I did a double take at 'any age' and was like 'um, actually, I think you should be experiencing some type of self-criticism if you're attracted to a literal child but ok Stephen'.

I know this is the Walliams thread so I'll try not to take up any more space with Stephen Fry chat. I do think it's relevant though!

 

[Scotia]

Agree with all this and just to add it's worse in Greek culture where men will feel no issue in commenting loudly and publicly on your body, your hair, whether you're too large, haven't made an effort, too weird looking, all with the clear expectations that a) they have the right to pass this judgement and b) that you will take on board their comment and do something to fix it so as not to offend with your large bum again

Bonus points if the guy making the comment is your cousin Tzimmi who still lives with his mum at 36 cos no other woman is good enough for him and his fingers are so large and hairy they look like wooly bear caterpillars

Haha! Same in southern Italian culture. The double standards and audacity are both shocking and hilarious.

 

[donutwitch]

If I had to guess, I'd say Ross was more of an enabler. As in, he was well aware of his friends' actions (how could he not be?) and was the type to encourage them or laugh it off. He moved in permissive circles at a time when sexist, lad culture attitudes were the norm. His permissiveness might also have extended to not batting an eyelid at sexual assault and grooming.

I do remember an interview he did with Teri Hatcher (Desperate Housewives) on his talk show. I just googled and it must have been way back in 2006. Anyway, she was describing being sexually assaulted by her masseuse and Ross interjected to ask whether she was lying on her back or on her front, just turning it into a joke. Even 14-year old me knew how inappropriate it was to respond to a public SA disclosure like that.

I’ve no idea if he’s actually an abuser himself but that comment to Teri Hatcher is disgusting (I understand she’s a woman that’s been quite open about how traumatised she is from various SA), and if some kind person has time to make a compilation of all the lewd and sleazy things he’s said to women on chat shows and panel shows over the years, he’ll have a pretty hard time wriggling away from current scrutiny by claiming he was just a naive, innocent bystander that had no idea of the open secrets happening all around him. He was also well known in the 90’s and 2000’s for constantly exposing himself to others - M&F - apparently as a “joke”

 

[Wackie Jeaver]

WHY do some men think exposing themselves is funny? Surely most would expect to get arrested for indecent exposure. I guess it's just yet another bloody power play...

 

[Twinkle6]

The whole thing is making me a bit ill. I was 16 when I started working, I was doing an apprenticeship, living off a tiny amount akin to jobseekers and lived alone in an awful tiny council house. I had nothing but a bed. I had just gotten out of a DV relationship. It wasn’t a secret.

By the time I was 17, my married boss plied me with drink, made moves, which led to sex, and then little pay rises after, helpful favors, disturbing promises , which were all there to shut me up tbh.

The irony was, he was 32 and he thought age of consent was 18. So he fearfully tried to talk me down. I never corrected him.

And the older staff knew what he was like. And they absolutely hated me for it. Not him.

At that age, I was flattered and I was getting monetary top ups so in my weird young I thought I had some control, something I never had.

Now I know I was a vulnerable young girl who lived on two digits a week , who’s career was ruined because a man in charge couldn’t nurture his apprentices into a career because he preferred shagging young girls.

It left me with anger for him, and for the staff who were old enough to step in, and fear for my own child who wants that career now.

This week has brought it all back. Walliams and all his enablers, the ones who knew it was dodgy, the ones who prioritised their own careers rather than whistleblow. Because it would be all so different if it were their child, wouldn’t it?

 

[Cat Eyez]

Hello this may have been asked and answered but are we allowed to speculate on who the second male celeb is that has a gagging order according to the Daily Fail?

 

[screamqueen]

I think it’s a bit like if you were at a work meeting and person X was there, that’s different to you having spent a few weeks working with person X on a project.

Just because Lucy has been on a panel show as a guest at the same time as him, it wouldn’t be thought of as “working” with him. If she’d had a recurring part in Little Britain or written a show with him or been his warm up act, that would be “working with him”.
Being in the same panel show is just being in the same studios with him and others, once, for a day, she may not have even seen him or spoken with him outside of the parts that were filmed. I think that’s how she’s thinking of it.

Yeah that's totally fair - I figured they may have filmed it over a day or something so there might have been an element of chatting/mingling, etc but you're totally right in the way you've explained it, thank you.

 

[MitziAdele]

Hello this may have been asked and answered but are we allowed to speculate on who the second male celeb is that has a gagging order according to the Daily Fail?

If not Jonathan Ross, could it be Paddy McGuinnes?

 

[Daisy Uncle]

From the silhouette pic on x it's Matt Lucas. Depressing that we wouldn't be surprised if it were one of six celebs.