David Walliams #2

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The vomiting woman was GROSSSS
Also the woman who peed herself was equally gross. I think that character may have been on one of the earlier episodes of Little Britain…I wasn’t an avid viewer of LB, I just didn’t find it funny. It was more vomit-inducing than funny.
 
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I’ve just been catching up so sorry if I’ve missed someone else making the same point - yes I think I think every woman has had an experience that (at best) has made them feel uncomfortable but they’ve said nothing.

But also culturally (in my experience, born mid 80s) girls/women in the UK were taught that they should be treating long hugs/attention/bum slaps etc as a compliment, a sign they were sexy/desirable. Men not taking no as an answer and continuing to pester until they got their way (as in the case of Walliams) was also encouraged/told to be expected I think. I like to think it’s changing, but I’m not particularly confident.

This is how this type of behaviour has been allowed to happen, and the perception of ‘turning a blind eye’ going on. It’s hard to raise concerns when you half think you should be pleased with the attention, even if it doesn’t sit right.
Agree with all this and just to add it's worse in Greek culture where men will feel no issue in commenting loudly and publicly on your body, your hair, whether you're too large, haven't made an effort, too weird looking, all with the clear expectations that a) they have the right to pass this judgement and b) that you will take on board their comment and do something to fix it so as not to offend with your large bum again

Bonus points if the guy making the comment is your cousin Tzimmi who still lives with his mum at 36 cos no other woman is good enough for him and his fingers are so large and hairy they look like wooly bear caterpillars
 
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I didn’t get that far but the book is sooo problematic. The main kid wants to wear dresses, he’s into fashion, but he doesn’t want to be teased. Fairly sweet and quite inclusive. But then.. the local shopkeeper reveals he’s a cross dresser and asks the kid to keep it a secret from his wife. Iffy. And would you know it the headteacher at the kids school is ALSO a cross dresser and the kid blackmails him and threatens to revel his ‘secret’.

So we have a young boy (11-12) keeping two adult secrets. He also takes his dad’s porn magazine and he also goes into the girls toilets and describes how he is in heaven doing so.

It’s aimed at 8-12 year olds. Thank goodness I read a bit first, skipped ahead and agreed it was unsuitable. The story should be ‘wear what you want, accept who you are’ etc. But it has this inappropriate seediness to it which is hard to describe. My daughter is a huge reader and moved on to far better books but I was shocked that some schools had Walliams on their curriculum!
Dear god, is that what parents are buying for their children?! 😬😱

People vilified Enid Blyton, she’s an angel by comparison.
 
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I thought about “Alex” and her comedy writing Walliams used to groom her with when I saw this. I wonder who Wendy and Henry were to him, how old they were and who else he dedicated his books to. This is from The Midnight Gang.

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Agree with all this and just to add it's worse in Greek culture where men will feel no issue in commenting loudly and publicly on your body, your hair, whether you're too large, haven't made an effort, too weird looking, all with the clear expectations that a) they have the right to pass this judgement and b) that you will take on board their comment and do something to fix it so as not to offend with your large bum again

Bonus points if the guy making the comment is your cousin Tzimmi who still lives with his mum at 36 cos no other woman is good enough for him and his fingers are so large and hairy they look like wooly bear caterpillars
They’ll have bigger boobs than the women they’re large shaming too…. THE AUDACITY.
 
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AH that's good then, I watched it a bit bleary eyed this morning and thought it was odd, but sounds like it was all straightened out.
I think it’s a bit like if you were at a work meeting and person X was there, that’s different to you having spent a few weeks working with person X on a project.

Just because Lucy has been on a panel show as a guest at the same time as him, it wouldn’t be thought of as “working” with him. If she’d had a recurring part in Little Britain or written a show with him or been his warm up act, that would be “working with him”.
Being in the same panel show is just being in the same studios with him and others, once, for a day, she may not have even seen him or spoken with him outside of the parts that were filmed. I think that’s how she’s thinking of it.
 
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She did, Cathy said something along the lines of her being on panel shows with him, and Lucy reiterated that she's never worked with him.
It's good that she helped whistle blow, but she didn't need to make it known on Sky News, especially as she never worked with him. It makes it look like she's trying to give herself a very much needed career boost off the back of it despite covering herself by saying she won't get TV work again.
 
I think Lucy may have been really good for mums, I appreciate how clear she made it that safeguarding is an issue that many of us already deal with and that we do have power, especially in growing numbers and better coverage at times like these, so gives encouragement to report, to whoever the duck will listen.
 
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I feel like we'd have heard something about Ross by now if he was a perve too.
Well he met Jane Goldman when she was 16 (he 26, I believe) and married when she was 18 so it’s right there in the open.

Im replying before I get to the end of the thread so sorry if this has been posted 26 times already.
 
It's good that she helped whistle blow, but she didn't need to make it known on Sky News, especially as she never worked with him. It makes it look like she's trying to give herself a very much needed career boost off the back of it despite covering herself by saying she won't get TV work again.
Disagree. She was so brave for doing this and I completely admire her.

I watched the whole video and I also didn't get the sense she was doing this for a career boost - she seemed very sincere, as well as full of trepidation.

Who else has spoken out against him like this, so publicly, at this stage? Nobody else.
 
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I truly don't wish to launch a conspiracy theory of sorts here, but it's interesting to me how Jonathan Ross keeps cropping up, even if just in jest. First Brand, now Walliams.

I'm sure we doubtless would've heard something about him by now if he was shady, but it does make you wonder.
If I had to guess, I'd say Ross was more of an enabler. As in, he was well aware of his friends' actions (how could he not be?) and was the type to encourage them or laugh it off. He moved in permissive circles at a time when sexist, lad culture attitudes were the norm. His permissiveness might also have extended to not batting an eyelid at sexual assault and grooming.

I do remember an interview he did with Teri Hatcher (Desperate Housewives) on his talk show. I just googled and it must have been way back in 2006. Anyway, she was describing being sexually assaulted by her masseuse and Ross interjected to ask whether she was lying on her back or on her front, just turning it into a joke. Even 14-year old me knew how inappropriate it was to respond to a public SA disclosure like that.

There's controversy about Latin! or Tobacco and Boys written by Fry in 1979. Something about the resurgence of that story made Fry do a bunk just as he was doing a play with, gahhhh, one of the young ones (tv show) who was pissed about it all and peeps thought Fry had gone off to top himself. Someone will correct my deets.
Rik Mayall. Stephen Fry caught a ferry to Belgium without telling anyone of his plans, so there was media speculation that he'd harmed himself. I thought it had more to do with negative reviews, though? Fry admits to being hypersensitive to criticism.
 
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It's good that she helped whistle blow, but she didn't need to make it known on Sky News, especially as she never worked with him. It makes it look like she's trying to give herself a very much needed career boost off the back of it despite covering herself by saying she won't get TV work again.
She may not have worked with him, but she worked with the person who procured him 'young women' so why shouldn't she speak up about it?
 
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It's good that she helped whistle blow, but she didn't need to make it known on Sky News, especially as she never worked with him. It makes it look like she's trying to give herself a very much needed career boost off the back of it despite covering herself by saying she won't get TV work again.
She says she is going to become a Pilates teacher in that interview. Sounded like some of the things she had heard eg from the young woman she had tracked down to offer help, had really upset her because of her safeguarding and teaching background.