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User290190

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Hello Sax lady here! I’ve been told to come here By many many kind souls. Erm what is this man’s problem?Just foranyone that doesn’t know I was extremely polite to him offered to correct the information he put out as facts which was wrong. He said he would love to do a live with me, I agreed. He then sent me a message (which I don’t have) saying it would be difficult for him to do a live which he suggested because I do a fad diet and that I won’t loose the weight. I’ve lost 5 stone in 17 weeks with specialist doctors and science 🧪. Woke up this morning blocked the found out he was being vile about me on a live and then that he was telling people I am inboxing his clients and trying to sell them drugs. It’s prescription medication and this is illegal luckily I have the screen shots of this and our first comments with either of showing I was positive with him. I will be going to the police, this is degrading and he is accusing me of breaking a very serious law. His group are now mass reporting my tik toks and I’m on a banned for 5 days for bullying- I haven’t bullied ANYONE he is spreading pure lies about me. Nice to meet you all, anything I can do for your cause please let me know because this isn’t normal behaviour
 
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DiamondPink

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So I have to say my conscious kicked in that piling on isn't helpful to someone that is suffering mentally. But I have huge reservations about that live.

DW having had a personal relationship with you not a business one, you need help. You need to deal with the childhood shit that has chased you for so long. You need to address those relationships with your parents.

You entered into a highly critical platform without the tools to be able to look after yourself there, or anyone that you claim to be able to help.

4 days after a codeine binge, you are on a come down, not a road to redemption.

And your 12 steps program is not working for you, because you are not being honest with yourself. I have personal experience of those from NA, CA and AA. I can assure you, you did not just complete your apology. If you have really attended those meetings you will know it's not a self serving apology you are required to complete. Its a true, unrequited one. One you will likely have thrown back at you, one where the other party holds no responsibility because your actions, and your actions alone cause those ill effects.

You really seriously need to be sectioned again, you are a danger to yourself and those around you. And unfortunately this type of business is not for you.

You have a lot of work to do on yourself and are in absolutely no position to run a business that helps people with their mindset. You do not have any tools to do it, other than your charm to bring vulnerable people to you, and listen to you. Unfortunately for you this time you gained people that would ordinarily have no time for your tiktoks or lives and during lockdown got sucked in. Now those people are questioning you and you don't have the back up.

Do everyone on your plan currently a favour, offer a refund or to finish the course for free. Cancel all the DDs and go back to the hospital. You have a lot of work to do.

Anyone with any knowledge or experience knows 1 year out after a nervous breakdown and addiction is not enough.

You are an addict, and you serve addicts. You used to be addicted to food, you replaced that with drugs. To your followers you became their addiction replacement for food. Its an unhealthy place for you and the people you want to help.

Your biggest help to yourself and everyone you "want to help" is to go away and work out your own life before you destroy anyone else.
 
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Emj7969

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Where to even start!!!!

1. I have not received an email from him. So despite being named in whatever that was this morning ……… he has not reached out to me - so this is directed to him.

Dear Daniel

2. I have not trolled you. I wrote a Trustpilot review and did two videos. For that I had a 40 minute live of vitriol directed at me. I’ve had months of being stalked by an employee. I’ve had threats. I’ve been bullied and harassed and been a victim of malicious communication. I’ve had you direct your hunions to troll me. I’ve been harassed in the workplace. I have had to report this to the police and they are dealing with the case. I have been lied about. I have been called a Trolly C@@t. I have had my reputation and my MH publicly and repeatedly questioned and degraded. I have not (unlike you and your staff) created fake accounts. I have not created fake reviews. I have supplied copious amounts of evidence to Trustpilot and my review is verified. I have occasionally spoken up to defend myself from the lies you have perpetuated about me.
3. I have been involved in whistleblowing - that is not trolling.
4. When the plan stopped working for me they could not help. I asked for reduced calories and steps. This, apparently was impossible.
5. I was not removed for bullying. I left the plan because it did not work and I was desperately concerned about the extreme bullying I witnessed you (and your team) do.
6. I did not sign up because I was impressed by you. I signed up because I was impressed by FattDann.
7. What happened today was not an apology. There was no genuine repentance directed at the people you have wronged. There were tears and you used the word BUT repeatedly to try and justify your actions.
8. You have made an offer - but one I would have to ‘prove’ myself for. If you were truly sorry then you would see that you should be the one proving yourself. We have people here who can attest to the empty promises you have previously made. This could be construed as blackmail. Just like your last ‘attempt’. Also - I have no wish to make myself liable - or associate myself with something in an officials capacity that operates as a scam and - it appears - is cheating HMRC.
9. If you were really sorry you would ask me what I required to makes amends …….. here are some spoilers ……. Stop mis-selling a service you are not delivering. Stop lying. A public and profusive genuine apology without qualifiers - that lists what you are actually sorry for and how you plan to not make the mistakes again. That apology would not be just myself - it would be to EVERY person who has joined us here - and the other people who have not.
10. If you truly have MH issues then I suggest you seek urgent medical help. If your friends/enablers actually care they should be urging this. If you are truly in such a terrible state I would suggest that you seek to be sectioned for your own safety. This would also ensure that you are afforded the opportunity to get sober in a safe environment.
11. The Academy is not your group therapy session. Those people are paying you for a service. They are not your friends.
12. If you truly want to get sober and are unwilling to seek urgent medical assistance I suggest you attend an NA group and follow the programme properly…… rather than relying on google.

I am aware of a large number of people who you have tried - and are trying to blackmail. I am aware that you threatened to leak photos of people. You have threatened legal action continually. You have lied consistently and changed the narrative of situations to suit yourself.

IF you are truly sorry then I think you are the one who has to prove themselves. That means a consistently changed behaviour. Repentance and atonement.

You are not the best at what you do and as for your strap line - you’re right. You do change lives - but thus far it is never for the better. 170 people here are attesting to the fact that you have made our lives worse. Many more contact some of us privately and say the same thing. Even more read on the sidelines knowing that you have made their lives worse.

So to conclude - I cannot accept an apology that I do not deem to be genuine. I accepted the apologies from Dan and Carla immediately and without reservation. They meant it.

Em
 
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User290190

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Update on wheeler - he has apologised told me there is no need to go to the police wants to retract his statement but won’t do this on tik tok. He has told me that I am still in the wrong basically because I corrected him on tik tok. I told him I will continue with the police he told me I am causing him harm by doing this. I have also screen shoted this private chat where he admits to being in the wrong lying which will also be going to the police. Wheeler if you see this I will not let it drop - you could have caused serious harm to my mental health / professional and private life
 
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This is to Dan, I didn't want to unblock you or speak via DM as I don't feel comfortable with how you can be and as everything has been public I wanted to just say how I feel and my opinion as you said my name (I assume it was aimed at me today)

During our first live it did go so incredibly well as you said on your live on Monday when you spoke about it. I was never offended by your content across your social media (the ones I watched pre us talking) because at the time our message was similar.

I will be honest in saying the reason why I didn't want to work with you was because.

It felt very views/money driven and just not fair. I do understand though as companies do work with content creators, in exchange do gift things in return for exposure. So I did get it from your side. A "£900" worths of coaching/plan in return of us doing lives and content together. The thing is after our live I had followers messaging me and close friends/family after I said about working with you that they don't like your vibe. At this time the community I had built was incredible and I didn't want to ruin what I had built singly handedly by working with you if my loyal followers said they support me but won't be supporting our work. What you offered aswell wasn't worth it. My whole social media content would of been based around 80/20. I would be a walking talking 80/20 advert for 12 weeks. All my food videos, lives, general content would all of naturally been 80/20. I would of basically been in a contract for 12 weeks for £900 and even at the time with the amount of followers I had back then any decent content creator would of turnt that down. Hence why me saying in a message "this isn't the route I want to take my social media in". I know I quickly said yes rather than thinking about it which I regret. It was all on the spot so when I did think about it and 24hrs later say no I never in a million years thought all this would happen. I did at the time have a colab coming up with a app that is just like nutracheck but also has workouts on the app (jonple or something) and again that was actual money and would go against me being on 80/20 so wouldn't look as genuine at all to my followers at all.


The reason why I let you down quite abrupt is because I got the vibe of no matter what I would say in why I didn't want to work with you I was worried you wouldn't let me say no and some way some how I would end up down something I didn't want to do. So I asked someone what shall I write and they say that is clean cut enough just say its not the way you want your social media to go in.

I never took to social media after that to stag you off I just left it and even still remained to follow you.

Then you did the video about women only menstrate. I had people unfollow me because I had showed them you so had tarred me with the same brush. I had followers offended as their partner was trans. At this point I blocked you and put up another statement saying after the trans video just say I do not work with you and sorry if they are offended as they won't get one out of you.

I never once asked any of my followers to come onto your live and ask what happened but unfortunately one day someone did and you proceeded with a 3 minute rant on live what looked like drunk. You lied about me pretty much the whole way through.

This cemented for me the reason why I didn't want to work with someone like that. Clear straight up lies. Also on the day I was releasing my free guide so not the best day for me for you to be saying this.

I didn't say anything publicly but did mention in my private fb group to why the release was delayed a few hours as you had gone on live and lied about me. This of course got my loyal followers annoyed (as it would do yours) so of course a few came over angry (never asked them or poked them to do this) Then there was another live with you ranting and yet again lying about me.

This made me Facebook message you and PRIVATELY ask why you had lied about me. So we could sort it but all you did was voice note me to say.. Shut up basically. You said don't speak my name again and I won't yours and if I carry on you will get your legal team involved.

I never went public and I stayed quiet in fear of your behaviour.

People started to cotton on to how you are and you started getting your first bit of negativity. Let me put this straight.. This was never ever driven from me. You claimed I was paying people to join the group to send info back to me.. Not true at all! I never once proded or poked anyone to do anything with anything negative. I see your tattle thread back in February from years ago and even then didn't bother to comment or get involved.

You came to blows with many people on the way and one time a lady done a video saying research a coach before joining. I stitched the video and made a cup of tea. In her video your name was not mentioned and I never mentioned your name yet you whatsapped me to say stop bulling and trolling you online if I carry on your legal team will be involved.

Again I stayed quiet. From what you said about me it obviously would of had a impact. I no doubt lost followers and people probably out faith in my character believing your lies about me.

I still stayed quiet though.

I don't actually know who is behind any of the tiktok account about you and only up until this week have I actually messaged anyone privately from tattle apart from funky & dba. I have no idea who any of these people are and I have never once been behind any of your hate online.

I never spoke out before because I thought no one will believe me. You had everyone under your spell and you are very believable. Until people started to realise what I did.

This is when I spoke out couple months back because I didnt want you to think that you shut me up. So I said my peace. I never once made up a lie or said anything personally nasty about you even though you had done me.

I kept it factual and showed receipts for everything.

On Monday you said.. Leah said I was bullying her.. I never once have said that. You made out like I've made up fake accounts to troll you.. I never have, everything I have said about you online has always been under my name.

For you to say I do shit content and it done even go viral is a really low blow. You know yourself that of course a good video is a must but we are up against the algorithm. I have helped 100s of 1000s of people and to be honest I don't want that viral moment. I just like what I do. If I wanted it to be big I would of pushed and pushed and never taken a break.

I don't wish to be involved with you in the way you have said today and I don't take accept any apology as its all been said and done.

I've never once been nasty about kaz or Sean. Even when you worked with FattDan I didn't even message him and give him the heads up or don't work with Dan etc. I've never actually been nasty to you. I have never trolled you or slandered you online and you know that. *edit* I will say.. yes I comment on funkys videos and write the odd comment in here but again it's never trolling or slandering it's ourely my opinion. I find it awful how you've made me out to be.

All the best wishes with your business
 
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sarah tonin

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Just to let you know we are fine, I will clear up the SC claims, IT was £2 one off fee to stop people reporting my accounts for adult humour, not a monthly fee, and not the 8k followers either, a few of us on SC do this
 
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Emj7969

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Writing this on behalf of our Saxenda friend (avoiding names due to rules here).

She is going to pursue the matter legally. This means that she will avoid posting on here whilst that’s going through. She will be reading and cheering us on from the sidelines - whilst working hard to hold him to account.

We are definitely all cheering you on too!!!!
 
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Spongranch

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“I could tell you how I worked up from a junior web designer to the Online European Marketing Manager for Toshiba. I could even tell you about how I tripled the online revenue over three years, something that no other online manager was able to do for Toshiba globally” 80/20 book

This is a self-aggrandizing pile of old guff.

Daniel, you were at Toshiba, you were a marketing exec, and in the last eight months, you were promoted to a Northern European Role. That sounds quite grand until I was told that this is primarily the much smaller market of the Nordics, something you confirm on LinkedIn by telling the reader all the country URLs you looked after. You were not the online manager for Europe, and you did not triple online revenue over three years, as you were only in the Northern European role for eight months before you were offered a payoff to leave.

The majority of Toshiba employees found you chatty and pleasant when things were going your way but unable to take any amount of constructive criticism. You would blame everyone else for your own mistakes and decided on many occasions that you were smarter than senior management or even owners of multi-million-pound organizations who were some of Toshibas customers.

You had a well-worn path to HR for your inappropriate comments both in the office and online. The lady heading up HR had many meetings with you, in an attempt to modify your behaviour. Chatty lady who always saw the best in people now retired from the industry as Toshiba as it was then has now downsized, moved location and been sold.

Many people tolerated you because they were at work with no choice or did their best to avoid you as your attitude was tiresome.

Toshiba had many links to British Rowing, from competing at national level to sports psychologists and yet no one could articulate your rowing achievements.

Whilst at Toshiba, you tried doing stand-up comedy in local pubs and I can only assume this part of your book is taken from your “ act”!

Pure fantasy.
 
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User290190

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so here’s a question- of all the people who got in touch with him today after his fake “reach out to me I want to fix this” bollocks yesterday has he got back to anyone?
Yes me - I reached out to him for an apology he admitted to lying about me all over tik tok, but told me that it was basically my own fault for challenging his knowledge on something he knows nothing about (very clearly from the statement made) I asked for a public apology because he accused me of selling prescription medication publicly he told me I was taking things out of context and making him unwell. I’ve have had to spend today getting advice from a solicitor and also had to inform my employer because I don’t want it causing troubles in my professional life. To say I’m annoyed is an understatement and I will be taking this to the highest level, I gave him the chance to apologise publicly and apparently I didn’t deserve that. Wheeler you threaten people with a legal team all the time apparently this isn’t a threat I am telling you I’ve spoken with one and giving a statement on Monday at my local police station. You have no idea of my background and what problems this could have caused my life. You need to get help, you need to apologise to those you have hurt and you need to get better. But it doesn’t excuse your actions, my mental health isn’t the best but I don’t blame it on things I do. It’s called taking responsibility for your life decisions.
 
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sarah tonin

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I always look at it like, imagine if this was a SW consultant, imagine this in any other working environment, going live about clients and staff 😳 you could get fired over a aimed Fb status these days
 
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User290190

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I noticed that state of my mental health and the stress that I’ve been put through over the last couple of days wasn’t noticed BUT he had at least 20 people on different platforms tell me to watch or send me the link so I understood why he done what he done to me. wheeler if you are reading this I’ve gone to the police, what you have said about more is pure lies saying I’ve broke the break by selling prescription medication to your clients - do you know what this could do to my personal and professional life?. Apparently I should understand he has mental health issues - snap my friend snap I too have bi-polar diagnosed, I do not blame my every action on that. You told a lie, you haven’t reached out to me to apologise you got people I don’t even know to tell I need to watch your live I don’t have an hour of my time to waste. You mass reported my tik tok and had me banned, you have sent hundreds of people to comment all over my tik tok saying I am fat / lazy / weak etc it’s disgusting behaviour
 
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User290190

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I'm so sorry you've been forced to take these steps but lady, you are a QUEEN! We are all behind you.
According to the solicitor I spoke to today, I have an extremely good case to take him and the business to court (I’m so glad he has made claims about his finances) and sue him / the business. All I can say is a lovely person on tik tok sent me a message saying screen shot everything and I’m so bloody glad I did. And wish I actually listened though my own fault I got myself into this mess and should have listened, I genuinely appreciated every single person that warned me; I apologise for being stubborn it is a character flaw which I need to work on! Luckily my boss was extremely understanding but due to my nature of work I did have to explain then I found out half the office has been following my tik tok when flowers turned up here this afternoon because they knew I’d had a rough week. Apparently they were all waiting until we were all back in the office to say cause they have seen me ‘strink’ - bless their Hearts. My nickname is chip and has been chip for years and years in work - apparently I’m now known as little chip 😂 although I still have 3 odd stone to go. I’ve been advise not to write anything on tik tok however I can like stuff so I apologise in advance for not being able to support your cause more. I can promise I won’t let this go though he doesn’t get to treat any of you the way he has treated you, at all!! And I am so sorry for that. The more I read the more worrying it gets!
 
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ashdlol

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I too have decided to take the fully public approach to reply to Dan’s live this morning I think this is the only way what I have to say will not get twisted.

So Dan, I did indeed watch your live today and it did stir up a vast mixture of emotions however, you apologised for making mistakes handling things wrong for cutting us out and hurting our feelings because of how you treated us.

Again addressing us as a group of 6-8 . I do not wish to discuss with you the actions of others as I can not control or speak for others despite what you think.

So Unfortunately none of those things are true you didn’t cut me off I completed the 16 weeks and left you didn’t hurt me I walked away but yes you definitely handled things wrong. You thought you could bully and intimidate me into silence that didn’t work. You tried to buy my silence that also didn’t work you tried to tell the others it was my fault their refund was not being paid and yes I accept that was down to me but I refuse to be controlled in this manner.

You did not say sorry for all the lies you have told about me personally, calling me a Trolly cunt I have never trolled you never been to your profiles and posted anything at you. You said I was removed from the Acadamy for bullying others, another lie. You seem to constantly have my name in your mouth yet to be perfectly honest our interactions since I left the Acadamy have been you contacting me. Or you naming me accusing me of having multiple accounts again not true everything I say to or about you has my name on it I have no reason to hide, I stand by everything I said.

On today live your mental health was clearly unstable and I strongly advise you seek actual help for this. Although I struggle to see why your mental health should take priority over others. You must have a short memory or assume people do because only on Monday’s live taunting and blackmailing others who’s mental health and personal circumstances you are fully aware of we’re not a concern to you so why should yours be to us ? Then we have Tuesday and Wednesday this week that poor woman with the injection thing, you lied about her trying to sell prescription only meds and poach your clients, sent your trolls to mass report and have her account blocked. But that’s ok be that’s not you, she could of been in trouble with police and her employers but it’s not you so perfectly fine.

Today all I heard was you are sorry, sorry for yourself your business and how your actions have caused this reaction, there are 170 people in here all of them have their own issues with you these issues are personal to everyone not just 6-8 of us.

I will however apologise to you I am sorry that me writing on a public forum upsets you and hurts your feelings I am sorry that when you actively come looking for hurtful comments you find them, if you don’t like what we write or what you read stop doing it. I am sorry you are unhappy and depressed I am sorry your life is so shite. I am sorry it took you this long to be sorry.

So in essence Dan I do know you are sorry however, not for the reasons you say I therefore will not be accepting the apology you gave today as it was for nothing you have actually done.

I will however, tell you the people you say have earned their share in your business and named today were in my inbox not 10 days ago spilling tea.
 
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Kbrown84

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Hi, newbie here and can honestly say I'm so glad I found this! I had an awful experience due to health problems I can't manage the 10,000 steps and he said still keep eating 2300kcals and I can maintain. I'm not paying £25 to weigh the same!
Anyway we had a WhatsApp group with a few members and I put in there that I wasn't happy as half the things he promised wasn't there. There was no support other than from Lois and he was offering the same info for free on his tiktoks. He the RANG me! Just to have a go and say what he was offering something completely different, trust the process blah blah blah but if I dare say anything again I would be kicked out of the programme without a refund! The guy is a bully and a narcissist. What professional trainer does live videos high and drunk?!

Anyway lovely to meet you all!
 
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TheGreatOne

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Dan Wheeler #18 New Year, “New Dan” No January uptake for his scam. Fake tears, more lies, do yourself a favour.. go back to washing drives
 
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teddywoo

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LOL...his gaming idea cracks me up. Primarily male... 😂😂😂😂
I make 6 figures and spend 6 months of the year in NYC due to ESports.
I’m a girl.
 
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DansBarmyArmy

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Someone has been in touch and sent me a very interesting email exchange that was had between themselves and Wheeler.

We often talk about how its never his fault, and how he likes to makes himself the victim... yet again we are proven right.

An ex member gets blocked for something they commented on so decided to confront him by email. What followed was nothing short of shocking.

Dan claims he blocked the member for a passive aggressive comment that he didnt need whilst he was struggling.

Person in question is fair at first, said there was no need and tried the nice approach. Dans having none of it so the member tells him to stop ignoring and blocking people that dont align with his narrative.

Dan lit-er-ally loses his shit.

The exchange that follows has Dan calling this member a prick, says they sound like a bitch and says they need to man up. All the member has done is point out the blindingly obvious.

The member even apologises for their own behaviour at one point to try and calm the situation down only to be called a cunt face and told that karma will be a bitch.

This is how someone was spoken to after asking a relatively simple question. As usual Dan made it all about himself and his own issues. When the obvious was pointed out to him that he's not the only one with problems, he just switched.

I have seen the whole email exchange and can confirm that the ex member did nothing to warrant this kind of response.

Dan stated the member was blocked due to passive aggressive comments,but proceeds to respond with pure aggression.

Nobody should be spoken to like that. Nobody.

( screenshot shared with consent. Thank you 🥰)
 

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Alfie1234

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Dear Dan, if you were remotely serious about becoming sober and well you would be seeing a dr to get your bipolar medicated, seeing a therapist to work through your multiple issues, you would be attending daily AA meetings, you would have a sponsor, you would not be drinking alcohol, you would be doing the 12 steps and more importantly you would be doing all this in private and giving it the attention and seriousness it deserves. You would not be using your illness and addiction as clickbait, as an ego massaging exercise, as a marketing ploy, you would not be guilt tripping your paying customers into be ing kind and positive because anything else might drive you to depression and possible s*****e attempts and you must certainly would not be taking money from people by offering them mental and physical help when you so clearly can do none of it for yourself.

Mate, I wouldn’t let you look after a hamster.
 
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shocktiludrop

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So 17 people couldn’t handle 2000 clients but 3 people will be able to work with 1000? Maths was never my strong point but ………
 
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Coconutclub

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Haven't seen all the video, but agree with you all, nothings changed he seems completely unable to change and he doesn't seem to understand what the actual issue he has is. When he talks about losing the original book deal - why didn't he learn from that?? He called a woman a c@nt online because she was upset by his 'joke' and lost a book deal. He says - you can't say things like that. Okay so don't then! don't then start up your business ventures again consistently calling other people c@nts 🤷‍♀️. It isn't hard?? and if it is hard for you not to keep calling people c@nts then maybe that is an indication to you that you have a problem. I'm one of the few here that is not an ex client or ever had any association with him, I've been here since the start because I was both astounded at his BS and couldn't believe how he was so openly bullying people.

He just cannot see any other point of view but his own. I don't know if this helps Dan, but this is my point of view on why some people maybe get upset by 'jokes'. I'm a vegan and one of the reasons I came here was because I was so shocked at the way you would dismiss, be nasty about or lie about the diet. I had cancer years ago, I then realised that I needed to overhaul my health - not overweight, but I didn't eat any veg - didn't exercise etc. I started reading anything I could on nutrition and tried a few things and found that this is what works for me. I don't care what anyone else does, I don't think I'm doing anything amazing I have just found lots of benefits and it also gave me a good focus to get out of a very difficult period of my life. Almost like a hobby tbh - a great way for me to distract myself and feel like I may have a little bit of control. Diets are very personal. I'm not hurting anyone (certainly not hurting any animals) - I'm just over here eating loads of carrot sticks and hummus minding my own business. When I then constantly see a man claiming to be an expert (but not even know who leading vegan doctor -Dr Greger is 🙄) saying vegans are 'stupid' , 'going to die' 'don't understand nutrition' then I'm going to be offended, triggered whatever you want to call it. And this is what you've done to the saxenda girl, or the chemo guy or the slimming world rep, the list goes on.

They are all just people doing their thing, finding something that works for them, telling other people their story and YOU are the one that can't leave it - you're the one that choses to belittle them publicly - you're the one that calls them a c@nt for having another opinion and you are the one that has the cheek to put on this display of self pity to get a break from negativity yet simultaneously happy to harrass people that have asked you for the same. You are not the only person with mental health problems. We all have tragedy, we all have issues, we all have trigger points, but you never have enough empathy to think that maybe the person that likes doing keto has a personal reason to like doing keto and doesn't need to be called out 'out of the blue' for doing their thing. And perhaps, if someone is offended by a 'joke' you've made then maybe you are offensive!? 🤯 Considering there are videos of you telling 'jokes' about people in wheelchairs I would perhaps take a look at what you find funny?? that may be a step in the right direction for next time you try and start this business again.

I will reserve all my sympathies for those who deserve it - life is tough, there are lots of people out there that have been dealt a really sh!t hand at life, I am not going to feel sorry for a grown man that has had chance after chance to learn how to behave and doesn't and still can't work out how customer service works despite being in business for 12 years. If you 'hate' customer service you shouldn't be running your own company 🙄.
 
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