Well, well done for getting out.
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The first jump out is massive because we are taught everyone outside is evil and wants you to fail. I thought that was preferable to my situation at the time! At the point of leaving, I was being lined up to be married off to someone I hardly knew, I was 19, and all I saw ahead of me was a life of drudgery and having to parent lots of kids. Not being able to work or be independent.
BUT, outside of it all I found people to be absolutely lovely and invested in my well-being. That’s when your eyes start to open
Next year in Jerusalem is something we used to say all the time!!Oh - that would be lovely.
I really enjoy a civilised exchange of views with people of any faith, or of none. And the words "tea" and "cake" are to me like a tennis ball and a squirrel to a cocker spaniel.
"Next year, in Jerusalem", perhaps . . . (And it doesn't have to be a religious chat! Anything you like!) And now I'm going to look into that bishop . . .
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Hadn't thought of that - it seems that the Almighty may be working through me, too, without my conscious knowledge. God does this all the time with people - She's clever!
(And of course, after a gallon of clerical tea, Nature will ensure that further excessive door-knocking is curtailed . . .)
It's a good expression, Hoop.
I like it.
I like it.
I actually hate it because all it reminds me of! Although that’s more a reflection of the type of people in that cult that the expression itself
Oh - then I'm sorry. I hadn't realise it was cult-related for you (sorry - I didn't recognise your username as linked to the "I got out", even tough I had been admiring of your acheivement)
To me it is a reminder that one day the whole world will live in peace. Perhaps what that cult meant, too, but I'm sure it was a different concept of peace.
Apologies if it is upsetting. I will delete if I can.
Please do not apologise! Free speak here… I love to chat with people of all walks of life, no judgment
Love how you put it, Mouse!
Husband talks to JW, my answer ha always been no thanks, I am RC.
Talking of which - just read that the Vatican is investigating a Texan bishop. Anti vax, pro Trump, anti Pope. You really, really shouldn't use religion as a mallet to twit people with to spread your political beliefs.
Also - would love to chat to you over a cup of tea and a slice of cake.
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Oh - that would be lovely.
I really enjoy a civilised exchange of views with people of any faith, or of none. And the words "tea" and "cake" are to me like a tennis ball and a squirrel to a cocker spaniel.
(And it doesn't have to be a religious chat! Anything you like!) And now I'm going to look into that bishop . . .
(And of course, after a gallon of clerical tea, Nature will ensure that further excessive door-knocking is curtailed . . .
Husband talks to JW, my answer ha always been no thanks, I am RC.
Talking of which - just read that the Vatican is investigating a Texan bishop. Anti vax, pro Trump, anti Pope. You really, really shouldn't use religion as a mallet to twit people with to spread your political beliefs.
Also - would love to chat to you over a cup of tea and a slice of cake.
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Oh - that would be lovely.
I really enjoy a civilised exchange of views with people of any faith, or of none. And the words "tea" and "cake" are to me like a tennis ball and a squirrel to a cocker spaniel.
(And it doesn't have to be a religious chat! Anything you like!) And now I'm going to look into that bishop . . .
Hadn't thought of that - it seems that the Almighty may be working through me, too, without my conscious knowledge. God does this all the time with people - She's clever!
(And of course, after a gallon of clerical tea, Nature will ensure that further excessive door-knocking is curtailed . . .
Someone I am very close to has a terrible experience in a relationship with a JW. In brief it was as if they had never had a need to develop a moral compass of their own. Of course that could have been as much to do with the rest of their upbringing as their religion.
I always try to be kind to JWs when they come to the door as I feel quite sorry for them and personally think they must lead a sad and fearful existence (mind you be the nature of their beliefs I suppose they must think the same about me!).
I always try to be kind to JWs when they come to the door as I feel quite sorry for them and personally think they must lead a sad and fearful existence (mind you be the nature of their beliefs I suppose they must think the same about me!).
My partner was raised JW. I think his mum fell in to it when she was at a particularly vulnerable time in her life. My partner now doesn't have any contact with her but his step-dad who he does speak to is still a JW - although to me he doesn't seem particularly devoted to it now, I get the impression he just wants to be a part of something. He has been divorced twice though which I didn't think was allowed as a JW so he potentially is restricted from being more involved.
Growing up my partner didn't celebrate any birthdays and wasn't able to join any clubs outside of school because he had to go to meetings instead. He was bullied at school for being JW so didn't have any friends
seems like a very sad upbringing to me.
Growing up my partner didn't celebrate any birthdays and wasn't able to join any clubs outside of school because he had to go to meetings instead. He was bullied at school for being JW so didn't have any friends
seems like a very sad upbringing to me.
We have one of the biggest Plymouth Brethren meeting places very, very close to us. We often see them all coming out on the weekends and it does look slightly like an updated version of the Amish. Fancy cars to wear your headcovering in, rather than carriages. We used to occasionally meet one in the wild when we were teens (same age as us) and they would talk/play with us even though it's not really allowed I don't think. We found them fascinating, but also really, really odd. And so naive. I can see why fraternising with the outsiders is discouraged because we were so much more worldly wise!
I love this thread. I like the pad cast Sounds Like A Cult which is really good at deconstructing ‘normal’ seeming groups and showing how cult-like language seeps in to all sorts of places you might not expect.
Having been raised RC I have had the debates with the JW or whichever was around, and Leviticus is always handy! as I’ve got older I realised I don’t want to engage so I just tell them I’m Jewish.
The Very British Cult was interesting because it was a pseudo Self improvement/business/The Secret type of thing, but it later pivoted to religion.It just shows that someone has to offer something you want, then draw you in, isolate you and…you’re in a cult
The Very British Cult was interesting because it was a pseudo Self improvement/business/The Secret type of thing, but it later pivoted to religion.It just shows that someone has to offer something you want, then draw you in, isolate you and…you’re in a cult
There is a great podcast, simply called Cults, which is produced by parcast on Spotify, which I'd recommend. They do a deep dive each episode.
I think it was Casefile's episode on Jonestown that fully showed the horror of what happened. It wasnt just "drinking the koolaid". It was months and months of horror and practice runs. Hearing the leaders voice doing the address at the end was chilling.
A very British cult also was interesting I think because, as others have said, it had the business angle, targeting people who you wouldn't normally associate with joining a cult.
I think it was Casefile's episode on Jonestown that fully showed the horror of what happened. It wasnt just "drinking the koolaid". It was months and months of horror and practice runs. Hearing the leaders voice doing the address at the end was chilling.
A very British cult also was interesting I think because, as others have said, it had the business angle, targeting people who you wouldn't normally associate with joining a cult.
A few years ago I signed up for a diet and fitness programme which was genuinely great and effective. There was a really lovely support group on Facebook and some regular meet ups. There was something about it though that made my “nope” senses tingle and I ended up dropping it. I don’t think it was a cult but the potential was definitely there and it made me feel weird. I can’t explain it really but when I started to read a bit more about the pattern cults follow I ticked off a few things when think g back to that programme.
Have any of you watched Wild, wild country on Netflix?? If you can get over the intrusive backing music it's fascinating, and bat tit crazy
One to add to the list!Have any of you watched Wild, wild country on Netflix?? If you can get over the intrusive backing music it's fascinating, and bat tit crazy
There were a couple of PBs at my school - they weren’t allowed to be seen eating which is a bit weird.
Wasnt Beachbody was it?
What's everyone's opinion on Jehovahs witnesses?