Conspiracy Theories #13

[Gembo]

I was getting really upset by people saying that people who won’t take the vaccine are selfish. Now I can understand where that’s coming from, we’re in a shitty situation and we all want out of it and I can understand why they’d call us selfish. But I’m past worrying about that now, I thought about it a lot and I thought no I’m absolutely not selfish, I donate blood, I’m happy to be on the organ donor register, I am very conscious of trying to not be any sort of burden on the nhs after seeing both of my parents use it a lot through their poor choices (sorry if that sounds off but it’s true, it was a real eye opener for me) and I am not a selfish person in my day to day life.

I’m a pretty health conscious person who is just really scared to take a new medicine that the government themselves say is safe for MOST people, not all, that one version of has been banned from certain age groups in some countries and that while I do believe that vaccines are generally safe and necessary it feels to me like there are a lot of bad side effects coming out about this one as did the Pandermix one and no one can be sure of the long term safety of it. If there was absolutely no potential of developing a blood clot or myocarditis or anything else I would have absolutely no hesitation. I’m not trying to be selfish, I’m just scared. When they first announced the vaccines I had no doubt that I would take it at all, I fully intended to, but hearing about things that have happened to other people makes me really concerned for my own health. If that makes me selfish, then ok.

 

[Private_user01]

I work for the Nhs but it is not a patient facing role at all. I have been working remotely from home since lockdown in March 2021. Today I received a form from HR asking me to send it to my staff members to fill in to state why they haven't had the vaccine.

I was also sent a script for managers and it advised me to encourage my staff members to be vaccinated because it is like PPE- hand sanitisers, face masks and social distancing. I said vaccines are not like PPE because you inject it into your body. Then I was advised to tell my staff all the negative things they heard were just myths and vaccines are safe. Once again, I said no I will not advise my staff that because we have no long term data. I will not promote something I do not believe in.

In the final part, I was advised to book staff in for the first vaccine if they have not had it yet. I also said no, if staff want the vaccine they can book themself in but I will not book them in as I do not want my staff to feel forced/bullied into having the vaccine if they don't want to

 

[Purrrrrrr]

I've explained how and why the death rates for Covid are calculated as they are a number of times over on the Coronavirus thread but as I've frequently been told many don't want to hear it.

Because they don't make sense. How you don't get that is beyond me. We don't need you to keep telling us we have the corrupt media for that.

This thread is for us to chat about CT. I'm pretty sure the admin said that it's for that and not for us to have to keep justifying to non-CT what we chat about.

 

[Purrrrrrr]

This is a photo of my late father at the Erminskin residential school in Maskwacis, Alberta Canada in the mid 1940s.

I wanted to share his story with you to help educate others and bring awareness to a part of our history that was swept under the rug by the Canadian government for well over a century. He told me that he had never told anyone about his residential school experience and that this was the only time he would tell his story because he never wanted to relive the horror's he experienced as a child.. As he was recounting his more traumatic experiences he couldn't stop crying and sometimes he would get so angry he would yell out cursing those priest's and nuns for what they did, so we had to take regular breaks and most of the time as he was telling his story his hands would shake uncontrollably.

Here goes:
At the age of four he was taken from his family home in Maskwacis at gun point by the rcmp. They came with govt papers telling them that all "Indian" children had to attend the residential school. He said the whole trip there he cried along side a whole wagon full of native children from his community. (some were in childrens handcuffs) He spent 10years of his childhood from the age of 4 to 14 being sexually abused by both priests & nuns (children would go to sleep at night crying themselves to sleep because they would be plucked out of bed ever night to be sexually & physically abused), they had their hair cut off & would be physically abused if they spoke the Cree language. Some kids left & were never heard from again. (Roughly 6000 native children died in residential schools from disease, beatings, firing squads, malnutrition, electrocution, newborns born of rape by the priests raping the little native girls who were thrown into the furnace and those who either froze to death or died of starvation while attempting to run home to their loved one's.

It left him sexually confused and mentally scarred with identity crisis, shame, self hatred, loss of language & culture, suicidal thoughts, substance abuse, anger issues and basically all of the isms in the dictionary that led him to doing time in jail when he would try stand up for himself or others against injustices like racism, inequality, oppression, etc. (It literally ruined his life and so many other native survivor's who suffered simular abuses and in doing so extended negative cycles of abuse, disfunction and traumas throughout our communities that will affect us for generations to come.)
The residential schools took the children from the land to disconnect people from their culture in order to take the land from the children. The genocide is ongoing, we still see the constant removal of indigenous children from their ancestral lineages. One of the worst and most powerful things on this earth is the look in a mother's eyes and the pain she experiences when she has that which she loves most in this world taken away from her. It leaves mental scars/trauma we can never forget, it destroys lives, it destroys families, it is a form of cultural genocide and it happens WAY TOO MUCH in our communities.. We need to recognize this as a form of oppression and as a calculated effort by our colonizers to create dysfunction within our communities to maintain control of the land and exploitation of natural resources.

If anyone thinks that native people are marginalized today, 60-70 years ago white folks treated natives infinitely worse and strong native men like my late father had to stand up against such injustices, yet they would be blamed for something white folks initiated, instigated and perpetuated.

Our ancestors have endured so much injustice (from invasion, genocide, attempted extermination, racism, colonialism, forced assimulation, abuses of all kinds, hatred, made outcasts on our own lands, looked down upon by people of other races, etc) since 1492 at the hands of our invaders & WE ARE STILL HERE!

He used to tell me a lot of the negative things he went thru in his life but he never let them beat him & he made sure his children were not exposed to such things. Thank you dad wherever you are for all that you did & for being strong for so long. The harm done to survivors, their children, families, communities, and future generations is IMMEASURABLE.

I pray for him & all survivors of these residential schools so they may find comfort, justice, healing & those 6000+ children who perished in the residential school system are in a better place.

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This stuff first about Gates now Fauci leads me to believe it's all just another distraction.

Stuff doesn't go mainstream unless "they" want it to go mainstream

 

[DreamDolly]

Hello everyone. Just wanted to check in (as I haven’t caught up yet)
I’ve had a really really tough few days, as my mum has been in hospital, and ive been looking after my Nan who is in her 90’s, but thankfully my mum is recovering well at home, and my auntie has got my Nan staying with her now, so fingers crossed everything is ok now.
I hope everyone is ok, and I have to ask if I’ve missed anything?

 

[Purrrrrrr]

What pisses me off is people saying we (on this thread and around the world) are selfish, yet many who say it are happy for everyone to be locked down because it doesn't affect them.
It doesn't affect me hardly at all, But I can see the impact it's having on others and it breaks my heart, its affected people in my own life as well, two suicides and lost count of how many marriage breakups and people who are barely making it through the day and that includes a few children.

 

[Yoghurtpots]

I have no idea what the future holds atm. For me its like all the chips are in the air and its anybody's guess as to where they land. At first I thought it was about the vax pass but as time as gone on I can see that they are clearly unable to give vaccinated people any privileges due to discrimination. Then I thought it was depopulation and tbh still do but they have so many vaccinated now that they should just call it a day and open up if that was the case and offer the children casually in September(). I'm now convinced that its all part of climate change agenda. They want airports shut by 2030. They want most cars off the road. They want meat gone. Ultimately though I am stumped. Does anyone have a clear head as to what is going on? I'm just so confused by it all. They are targeting the UK more than most other countries it seems and I think thats due to how compliant the masses have been.

Also save Christmas until the elderly are vaccinated. Save Easter until the roadmap. Holidays back on May 17th. June 3rd. No holidays. I mean do people not see that they are being PLAYED! The carrot technique is working. People just plod along chasing the next carrot. This is why people sacrificed their xmas! Easter! Why they took the jab! Where TF is the outrage!!

 

[Oohthedrama]

I was getting really upset by people saying that people who won’t take the vaccine are selfish. Now I can understand where that’s coming from, we’re in a shitty situation and we all want out of it and I can understand why they’d call us selfish. But I’m past worrying about that now, I thought about it a lot and I thought no I’m absolutely not selfish, I donate blood, I’m happy to be on the organ donor register, I am very conscious of trying to not be any sort of burden on the nhs after seeing both of my parents use it a lot through their poor choices (sorry if that sounds off but it’s true, it was a real eye opener for me) and I am not a selfish person in my day to day life.

I’m a pretty health conscious person who is just really scared to take a new medicine that the government themselves say is safe for MOST people, not all, that one version of has been banned from certain age groups in some countries and that while I do believe that vaccines are generally safe and necessary it feels to me like there are a lot of bad side effects coming out about this one as did the Pandermix one and no one can be sure of the long term safety of it. If there was absolutely no potential of developing a blood clot or myocarditis or anything else I would have absolutely no hesitation. I’m not trying to be selfish, I’m just scared. When they first announced the vaccines I had no doubt that I would take it at all, I fully intended to, but hearing about things that have happened to other people makes me really concerned for my own health. If that makes me selfish, then ok.

this is such a brilliant post,
I’m sick to death of seeing people talk down to anyone in this position.
the condescending comments about protecting others and being selfish make me so angry.
I’m past caring what other people think of my choices, personally I find it scary anyone would accept a vaccine or any type of medication just to “get back to normal” or have the freedom to go on holiday.
But that’s their choice as well I suppose.

 

[Yoghurtpots]

Well well well it seems Fauci is officially the fallout man. They must be panicking leaking this. Fauci's leaked emails stating he knew Covid was leaked from a lab back in feb 2020.

I've had farts more deadlier than covid. I mean why make something in a lab that has a 99.97% survival rate (it is likely 100% survival rate if not 82 with 2 comorbidities). Why inflate the figures by using the not fit for purpose PCR test and deaths of any cause within 28 days. I think the story of it coming out of a lab sounds scary and might play into peoples fears about it being a real danger when we have the data now to say that its not. I think its very convenient that it comes out now, now that people aren't scared by covid. I just don't see the point of it being lab grown, for what purpose? I believe the real danger is in the vaccine.

 

[Purrrrrrr]

Ascot. but cant go see the kids do thier sports

 

[Spinidge]

No-one is selfish for making a choice what they do with their body. In some areas of life, you are still allowed to say no. The whole vax situation is government sponsored propaganda, nationwide mind control, history repeating itself. Its relentless, and to me its sinister, and I'm sick to the back teeth of it.

No-one is going to coerce me into having it. No false idol celebrity, no deranged politician and certainly no anonymous statistic loving poster. We have yet to see what this vax actually does to people's bodies, not just within a few weeks of having it, but for months and years to come. My vaccine status is watch and wait.

 

[Freedomofspeech89]

I'm honestly a little shocked and horrified by this post! Anyone else!?

 

[Spinidge]

As an autism parent, this makes me feel very unsafe and guilty for getting a diagnosis which is then used as a death sentence.
Then we have have non-CT pricks antagonists coming over here to poke us when we are seeing evidence such as this supporting our world view, which they turn a blind eye too.

People poke us because deep down they are scared of what is going on. Everyone goes through a period of cognitive dissonance when they first start reading alternative views and so they scoff or get angry because it is unbelievable and very scary stuff to have your set views on the world, challenged.

Its easy to blame their anger and frustration on the CT community than it is to admit there are bad things happening in the world. If they thought it was all rubbish, they wouldn't keep on looking and just get on with their lives. But the fact that they keep coming back means there's a seed of doubt in their minds. They know something is wrong and that's why they have to keep running back to their fellow scoffers to diffuse their doubts, because its an easier path.

Its easier just to look at overall covid deaths and not who died and why they died, because then they might have to start connecting some dots. In fact it's easier to not question anything about covid or vaccinations and just listen to the experts and pretend everything is alright. It's easier to let your phone do your thinking for you. But that seed once planted, won't go away.

 

[DreamDolly]

Blimey, I’ve had the worst few days.
My uncle’s brother was rushed to hospital yesterday, he has got a blood clot in his brain, and he’s currently in the icu, in a coma and on life support.... which is just awful, as he’s only in his late 50’s, and has always been really healthy and played loads of sports.
Then, I got a call this morning from my friend, and her husband collapsed at home, and was rushed to hospital, but he sadly died from a blood clot on his brain that caused a stroke. He was also young and healthy, so this is so shocking.
Both of them recently had their second AstraZeneca jab.
Obviously, we all know the risks that these vaccines carry, but this has really blown me away.
What with my mum being ill, and all of this happening, really brings it home to me..

Na you don't though, I have seen you keep slithering in. I usually ignore people but feel extra pissed off today so thought I'd interact with a moron. I can't stress this enough, BRING ME DATA! You don't debate. You sit there using emotive nonsense. Thats all you lot have. Thats why I usually don't bother with people like you. 15 months in and still in bed with the enemy. I always know its a total waste of breath but I always LOVE you all never being able to bring stats facts and data. I get second hand embarrassment for you all using the same "GrAnNy KiLLeR" whilst completely ignoring the data which we have studied inside out. In times of tyranny, it only takes 5-10% of people with a brain/resistance to overturn it so thank goodness not everyone is the same.

If I could like this post 1,000 times - I would!!

 

[Freedomofspeech89]

I’m also trying to work out what the end goal is after today’s travel news. I’ve read about most airports closing by 2030 but it doesn’t make sense with the travel and aviation industries contributing so much to the economy... also Heathrow’s 3rd runway which utilised a lot of political pressure to achieve approval. I can see them paving the way for climate change laws etc being pushed through whilst people are so complacent/don’t care however.

if they don’t open up travel now, then when? At this rate the valuable summer period will be lost, and before you know it seasonality will kick in and cases will start rising again in September. Last summer I travelled back from the US for a few weeks and apart from ‘quarantining’ there was none of this testing bullshit.

Here in the US it genuinely feels like it’s over. Domestic travel is booming, the Vegas strip is back to normal with no social distancing or capacity limits. We have just been in california which has had super strict rules compared to elsewhere, but people are no longer wearing masks even in stores that require them and nobody is enforcing it, there’s no track and trace or anything like that. Apart from the pro-vaccine propaganda on the news which is basically bribing people with free donuts, beer and lottery wins, everything is back to normal pretty much. Genuinely makes me feel sad for the Brits who are stuck on an island, you can bet that anyone who’s got a bit of money will be bypassing all of this by chartering private jets to go on holiday still.

Reading your post literally makes me so angry. Not at you but at this country. How have we got to this state. It's like living in a never ending nightmare. I go through periods of wanting to cry and being terrified to laughing my head off at the shear stupidity of it all. There's going to be a big protest on the 14th June when parliament announce whether restrictions will end. That is going to be very interesting indeed!

 

[Yoghurtpots]

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I have no words

I rang my childrens primary school and ranted over this for 24 minutes yesterday! Told them facts and data regarding deaths and vaccine.. was told that was my "opinion". I said its FACTS! Told them they are brainwashing the children without giving a balanced view and allowing them to be able to make informed consent. Told them I think its disgusting that every few weeks they sit them in front of the tv to watch the highly politicised and deeply biased bbc, asked them why they think its acceptable to keep our children in a perpetual state of fear. The response was certainly mixed. She told me that she taken the vaccine due to pressure, said she never felt pressure like it in her life. She for the most part agreed with me but kept reiterating that it was the governments orders and there was nothing the school could do. I told her to remove my children from any vaccine brainwashing. We all need to use our voice and be heard. There will roughly be 10m adults who refuse the jab and the tyranny. We need to shout the loudest. We need to stand up for the children now. We know the other 44 million won't unless instructed by the media or unless it becomes socially acceptable. We are already outcasts so fuck em! We need to stand together and rise! We know what is going to happen if we don't

 

[Cupcakemum]

EU medicines agency is on it they’ve also declined to purchase anymore J&J vaccines View attachment 612936

Good! Maybe finally some more transparency will come soon then. That's all anyone has ever wanted

I really wish these things weren’t happening with the vaccines

I think practically everyone feels that way, but thats why some people were shouting that it was a new medication and people should be allowed to question, wait and then make a personal choice.
Instead anyone that did that was labelled a granny killer, conspiracy theorist and completely shut down or silenced by MSM and social media

 

[Gembo]

The sedation/drugging quickening the death of patients i'm sure is very much true. King George V was euthanised with a morphine and cocaine shot to speed up his death so that it would make the morning papers. If the doctor of the King would do it than i am pretty sure the doctors of the defenceless in care homes and hospitals would do it. Remember the care path way scandal, they have been speeding up the deaths of many for years, some may stay will be alive now if they hadn't been put on a death pathway. And no it won't be debunked by others just scoffed at which out having any knowledge or personal information/experience on the subject. Such arrogance out there

My mum was on a driver at the end of her life which contained midazolam. I was quite distressed by it and I asked them to stop. However it became apparent very quickly that my mum was suffering enormously so I had to ask them to continue it. It was a really upsetting time and a really horrible decision to have to make, I spoke to the Dr about it and he said that when someone is end of life these drugs can speed things up but that if someone is suffering as they die it’s preferable to them suffering for longer. It’s a horrible horrible thing but I don’t think it’s always sinister and I’m glad it was available for my mum and I really hope it did make her passing a lot more peaceful.

 

[Unagi]

I've not had the vaccine and nor has my partner. We're both generally quite pragmatic people but neither of us is keen to rush for it. We're theoretically at some risk as I'm quite overweight (thanks lockdown!) and he's had cancer. And we're both over 40. We're both pretty certain we've had Covid in the last year as we were around someone who tested positive (and we were ill, much like flu, but no worse than that).

I feel like I can't admit to not wanting the vaccine without looking like I'm some tinfoil hat wearing crackpot. My managers at work (we all work remotely, I'm in a team of 15 people who all have had the vaccine, mainly to go on holiday although that's not happening) keep asking why I've not been vaccinated yet which just makes me uncomfortable as I'm running out of excuses as to why not. My children are in their 20s, and I'm quite relieved that currently neither of them is planning to get it.

When people ask me I just tell them I’ve risk assessed things and with data currently available to me I believe my risk of becoming seriously unwell with COVID is less than the risk posed to me by a jab (I don’t like to call it a vaccine as I believe it doesn’t meet the definition of vaccine). If they start babbling on about transmission etc then I tell them that the jab doesn’t stop transmission and I’m sorry but as long as the vulnerable have had the jab (if they wanted to) then that is all that matters, it’s not my responsibility, at the end of the day we all have to look out for ourselves and our families and if I had the jab and god forbid died or became too unwell to work where would that leave my family. That might make me a selfish bitch to some but I couldn’t give a shiny shit.

 

[Freedomofspeech89]

Does anyone get the feeling that they know the game is up shortly which is why they are desperately rushing through age groups? It's like they are panicking and trying to get people jabbed as fast as possible before shit hits the fan.