Cliff Richard

[Alightened]

No smoke without fire eh? As soon as I read that Kitty may have visited kincora I immediately went on the hunt. I cant find much online (not surprising) but given the names of those who visited kincora it wouldnt surprise me if he also visited it. Someone on another thread had said that he use to get young boys to sit naked on top of a glass table n he'd look at them from beneath the table (or something along those lines)
Unfortunately I have no other kind of evidence/stories about him but I always thought there was something weird with him

Yes, I agree. He's definitely not squeaky clean that's for sure.

 

[OnlyHereForTheLolz]

But why do people not say something whilst they are alive? It is so immoral and unethical.
Personally I don’t belive the CR stories but not sure about Delboy. That will ruin my whole British experience if Delboy is found to be a fiddler

 

[JakeM]

I used to to look at a Cliff as a figure of fun, now I find him really sinister. He did a duet with Gary Barlow during lockdown and I noticed how completely dead and soulless his eyes are, like Savile‘s were. Terrifying really.

I agree. He gives me the absolute creeps. Just looking at him makes me shudder. And yes, he has dead and soulless eyes just like Savile did.

 

[laughing]

Cliff won the court case against the Police as they did not have the right paperwork or the like.

He was never cleared of any 'wrong doings' as that was not what the court case was about.

He would like folks to think he was cleared but no

 

[lamaitresse]

The only rumours I can see about David Jason are that when he was filming in Australia, he let a friend house sit for him. The friend and another bloke lured teenage boys back to the house, using the fact that it was Del Boys house to draw them in. They were jailed for the offences. He had nothing to do with it, but this is thought to be the basis of the rumours.

He is rumoured to be a bit touchy feely with female crew on his tv shows - look up his name and The One Show where he alluded to it.

I heard that too...you can't be a paedophile or a predator by association if you're not there, or participating or encouraging it. Whether David Jason was aware it was happening in his home is another matter and it's not been confirmed either way.

In saying that I was absolutely floored when ex-national treasure Rolf was found guilty of being a predator and child abuser. I always saw him as a harmless lovable eccentric. How the public was fooled

I really hope it's not true.

 

[Upinabubble]

Big cliffy just gives me the creeps. You just know there's so much to him. I don't believe he's innocent, too much smoke around him.
I do hope it all comes out soon and he's held accountable!!

 

[Gym&Tonic]

He once said he ‘didn’t care’ if a guilty person got away with it, when discussing whether or not suspects should be named. Selfish old git.

 

[Powpow46]

Happy Birthday, Cliff View attachment 275122

He looks like Victoria Beckham there, lol

 

[BallroomBear]

Sorry if I sound ignorant but does this mean there will be more information or the "truth" revealed in 100 years time? I don't understand why or how that could ever be lawful. Is it to cover up misdeeds of influential people or am I being thick?

And does this include Kitty?

Again sorry for my ignorance, I wont be offended if you say the latter!

It's to cover up the misdeeds of people in very high places ie the "establishment", in this case, I believe many MPs who at the time, were high up in the Labour party and or the Scottish Labour Party. The likes of Gordon Brown, who's a widely reported paedophile, George Robertson (high ranking Labour and ex NATO Secretary General) was the signatory on Hamilton's gun license application, and God knows how many others. It was reported that Brown's credit card appeared on the same list as Pete Townshend of The Who when the plod did their huge online child porn sting years ago. I think Alan Milburn's appeared on it to. He was required to resign from the Labour government "to spend more time with his family".

 

[Nicnac]

It's to cover up the misdeeds of people in very high places ie the "establishment", in this case, I believe many MPs who at the time, were high up in the Labour party and or the Scottish Labour Party. The likes of Gordon Brown, who's a widely reported paedophile, George Robertson (high ranking Labour and ex NATO Secretary General) was the signatory on Hamilton's gun license application, and God knows how many others. It was reported that Brown's credit card appeared on the same list as Pete Townshend of The Who when the plod did their huge online child porn sting years ago. I think Alan Milburn's appeared on it to. He was required to resign from the Labour government "to spend more time with his family".

I didn't know that, but this has got me thinking ( and i might be wrong - i've been down so many rabbit holes lately), but ....... wasn't GB one of the first people Gerry McCann contacted, after Madeleine's disappearance? Hmmm .............

 

[Gym&Tonic]

I used to to look at a Cliff as a figure of fun, now I find him really sinister. He did a duet with Gary Barlow during lockdown and I noticed how completely dead and soulless his eyes are, like Savile‘s were. Terrifying really.

 

[thegirlscout]

But why do people not say something whilst they are alive? It is so immoral and unethical.
Personally I don’t belive the CR stories but not sure about Delboy. That will ruin my whole British experience if Delboy is found to be a fiddler

See in the other way round, I believe the Cliff stories but I’m a bit unsure on if the David Jason ones are true.

 

[MrsBsDayOff]

What is really appalling is Cliffs lack of humility towards a man who whilst at the peak of his career was suffering with serious addiction that unfortunately led to his untimely demise. To even process the thought in his mind that being next to an unwell man because of his size *would not be good for his street cred* is absolutely horrific, shallow, rude and very telling of his character. Deeply unpleasant by all accounts and I've never ever warmed to cliff. Even as a child and I'm an 80s baby. Something about him is off. I couldn't believe the rubbish he was coming out with having saw that clip on this morning. Horrible nasty person.

When he dies, it'll all come out and people will say publicly 'oh why was nowt done'. Well folk here have had the fucker sussed for years. A nasty piece of work and I personally believe the assault allegations were true and that there is more that hasn't come out.

 

[Glaschelle]

He was wheeled out onto the news last week with Paul Gambo to argue for anonymity after arrest.

Sorry Cliff but the old-school (near retirement) coppers I worked with 20 years ago we’re telling me back then what an absolute n once you were. I think that ship has well and truly sailed.

See - this is what I don't understand. If there is evidence that cliff has been up to no good - when his house was raided was the perfect time for the concerns to be raised and investigated. Thats why the police made it so public - to get people to come forward.

And nobody did!!!

So - is it because he's connected to people and no one will talk???

Or - is it because he is exactly what he seems - a guy with a closely guarded private life, possibly because so he's far in the closet he lives in Narnia???

But honestly - if people have evidence - evidence not rumours - that cliff is a badun, please, please, please go to the police.

Please try and get justice for any victims before he dies. Unlike saville's victims!!!

 

[PeteM]

Like David Jason, there'll be a hell of a lot of stuff coming out about Cliff once he pegs it.

 

[Chatter]

Savile was in with the establishment - loved by Thatcher and Prince Charles for example. I am not suggesting they knew about his crimes, just that people would not come forward because he was perceived to have friends in high places. They (establishment figures) saw him as an eccentric do-gooder.

When I see people being accused casually of being a peadophile, it makes me uneasy. I have heard rumours about Cliff, but I do not believe that in the current climate of openness around these matters that substantial and credible witnesses would not come forward now. They haven’t. The ones that have were discredited. The way the police and the BBC conspired to film live his flat being raided was utterly disgraceful. They deserved to have to pay dearly for that. I am no fan of Cliff, but simply as a viewer that felt such a terrible invasion of privacy and sensationalism. That went beyond the standards you would expect from the police, except it was South Yorkshire Police and the BBC. South York’s police bungled the investigations into Asian grooming gangs and ignored what was going on for years because of the racial dimension, but went all guns blazing for Cliff. The BBC has moved along way from being Auntie and should now be defunded, how they conspired with the police to air this was immoral. They hired a helicopter to swoop in and film. Our license fee money went towards paying Cliff’s substantial damages and legal fees. If Cliff had questions to answer, this was not the way to do it.

South York’s police https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...gnored-sex-abuse-grooming-gangs-30-years.html

BBC pays out £2m in legal costs to Sir Cliff Richard

Singer last year won landmark case after BBC used helicopter to film police raid on his home

www.theguardian.com

 

[Boogs]

Also how must Alison Hammond have felt sitting there listening to that?

 

[strange addiction]

The big fuss about the BBC filming the raid was just a smoke screen to hide the fact of what he did. People think that he is innocent because he won the BBC court case about the illegal filming of the raid not realising that this is nothing to do with the fact that he is a dodgy.

What is Kincora and who is Kitty?

Kincora is/was a boys home in Belfast. Its cone put recently that a lot of high profile english folk (no doubt northern irish folk too) visited and abused the boys....who would believe a bunch of lads living in a kids home after all?? I live in N.Ireland, I was hoping something would have been in our local papers but found nothing other than what people already know.
Kitty was CF 'alias' when he visited Elm

 

[Warriorqueen]

Sorry if I sound ignorant but does this mean there will be more information or the "truth" revealed in 100 years time? I don't understand why or how that could ever be lawful. Is it to cover up misdeeds of influential people or am I being thick?

And does this include Kitty?

Again sorry for my ignorance, I wont be offended if you say the latter!

I must be living under a rock! I have literally NEVER heard this before

The establishment have a habit of locking things away for a stretch of time. Same thing has happened with the Profumo affair. It’s disgusting and like a load of feckless sheep, the British public just let it go on.

I must be living under a rock! I have literally NEVER heard this before

And McCann.

 

[cazellie]

Ow many years ago with me sister shopping in Westend Thursday as late shops open,we went for walking into Duke st up to Grosvenor Sq,popped into Hotel bar for drinkie before coming home with out shopping it was Brittania Hotel,it was lovely,chatted to bar boss, funny guy so nice he was gay,chatting away mentioned Quiff Richard,he said ‘omg he is a vile guy nasty’ Loves very young guys.Weirdo.

Many years ago I met an old guy through my job who knew a lot of well known people. He told me Cliff was gay and it was all an act pretending he was straight as he liked young lads. Back then I just didn’t believe it. I do now. Fair enough back in the day it wouldn’t have been good for his career but there’s no reason to hide anything these days. Fair enough he has a right to his privacy but he shouldn’t protest/lie so much. He’s a creep