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gooridoori

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I agree with you- the constant switch between Palestine content and promotion for her new book is absolutely jarring. While on one hand I applaud her for using her platform to help inform the public, on the other hand she is doing it in quite an extreme way which absolutely could be traumatising to some people. Not to mention splicing it with self promotion comes off as unavoidably disingenuous (not that I doubt she is being genuine, but it’s absolutely shit timing to do this). As a fellow ADHD sufferer it seems like a hyper fixation? I wonder what the publisher and her management think.
It really does seem like a hyperfixation and it’s so strange to witness. and separately I am meaning no disrespect to people with bipolar but Clementine also seems kind of like heightened at the moment like there is something more going on with her mental health and that is not me making excuses for her.
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I can't watch the stories. It's mind boggling she thinks that talking about insta drama is activism. At least she went to the rallies in Melbourne. I also find the Palestine footage cut with requests to buy her new book to be borderline psychotic.
It really is I dont know how she justifies it to herself
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also like the way she is arguing with everyone who disagrees with her and then having a sook about it because she took up the issue of whats happening in Palestine like 5 seconds ago but seems to have no thought for Arab women who have copped it their whole lives. Like just how everything revolves around her.
 
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gooridoori

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She just posted 7 stories trying to convince people to join her subscriber channel, wasn’t someone on here saying she doesn’t even post anything for her subscribers..
She always pushes her subscriptions in her stories almost non-stop , and has a sook about her content being free
 
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gooridoori

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Amy and Luke’s wedding pics are gorgeous and I find their love story (the little I know from social media) romantic 💘 we have already spoken on the thread about how their (online) friendship basically stopped after the elopement.
I don’t know Amy but they are a disabled Aboriginal non binary person. If Clementine is using her platform to bully them that is so shame.

I just noticed on Amy’s Instagram that one of their friends recently had a hens party and the bride wore a red dress hmmmm lots of coincidences
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Just listened to the first half of this and had to turn it off. It feels like Clementine writes half of the submissions herself , just feels like it’s clementines voice and then Clementine responding to herself if that makes sense.

 
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gooridoori

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One of the biggest issues is that he derailed an official ceremony to centre himself. If he felt it would be so meaningful to do it on her graduation day, maybe do it afterwards or beforehand. Not during the ceremony, where other people are being honoured as well.
Do you know if it was during the ceremony or after
 

melfish

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I’ve been waiting for a Clem thread - long post ahead sorry! I’m super torn about her - I enjoy her arguments but totally agree that she ignores nuance. I find her frustratingly condescending, as if us poor little women (whom she hasn’t deemed worthy of her feminist crown) need her to guide us. She talks down to her audience, with an approach that ignores our own autonomy, circumstances and ability to assess our own situations. It ironically reminds me of the approach that conspiracy nut jobs take, that smug “well you wouldn’t understand, you are simply blind to x and y” - as if those of us that dare to disagree with her lack critical thinking skills. I think it would be exhausting being her friend with her holier than thou approach - the whole time you’d be nervous that she might publish a public call-out or throw you under the bus.

My partner and I are educated from top universities. Shockingly, he is receptive (and has initiated discussions about) to discussions regarding the mental load, weaponised incompetence and domestic inequality - concepts that she did not invent, but seems to think she is the spokesperson for. Marriage is something we have discussed and are excited for (and no, de facto does not provide identical privileges). We complement each other, respect and love each other in a way that is different (but not less than) than that provided in a platonic friendship. Yes, I am sure my partner is a rare find but he is the nuance, the grey and genuinely improves my life - something she seems to think doesn’t exist or, more frustratingly, that he (and my beliefs about him) are a mirage, and I’m too stupid to realise that. That I need her, in her top feminist of feminism glory to show silly little me the truth - or rather her version of the truth. Honestly, sometimes I find her exhausting.
Great post. What is weaponised incompetence?
 

melfish

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It’s doing something (like domestic labour) deliberately and wilfully badly so that you don’t have to do it again. Maybe a partner suggests you do the bedtime routine because ‘you do it better’ and if you put your foot down then they sabotage their own effort by razzing the kids up instead of settling them so you don’t ask again. Things like ‘I can’t cook’ knowing full well that YouTube and the internet exist for foolproof recipes.

Sheesh, I feel like I’m mansplaining on the Clem Ford thread.
I should have googled it, so I appreciate your even responding