Yeah, she seems really sweet but I have the same concerns you do and the coaching she has appears to be taking her further from the ideal aesthetics rather than closer. Taking coaching from someone who didn't even win amateur shows half the time, let alone an IFBB card, is wild to me. I have to wonder if she regrets on some level the high doses and masculinisation.
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Is it possible to have so much work done it rubs off on your baby
Omg I cannot stand how ignorant she can be. So she says they speak bulgarian, English and Dutch to her child, ok.
Then she says Bulgarian Salah will say something in Bulgarian to the baby and she asks what is it and then she tries to learn, then she says she’s not that stupid and she speaks some Bulgarian shortly after that she says “not at all conversation level “ then what do you speak, nothing 5 and half years in Bulgaria and she knows nothing.
Then she goes to say that Bulgarian is like no other language in Europe , except Ilona there are 12 other Slavic languages that are very similar to Bulgarian and if you are a speaker of any of those it will be easier to understand the rest.
Then she goes to say how Bulgarian language has nouns that are feminine or masculine and how this is so difficult and not like any other language, I speak 5 languages and this is the case for all of the languages I speak except ENGLISH.
She always says how she speaks French and blah blah, surely she knows that nouns have gender in French (same in Bulgarian) i. e a book will be male.
Then she goes to say how there are 3 different ways to write in Bulgarian which is unseen and so difficult: 1. She says capital letters are different, hate to break it to you but capital “R”looks different to small “r” in English, literally the same. 2. letters that people use writing are different, yeah Ilona, English cursive is also different than print. 3. the print version is used on official documents and signs but is different than the one used by people writing. Again cursive is different in any languages.
Just say you couldn’t be bothered to learn anything for nearly 6 years. Literally asked chat GPT what is the easiest Slavic language to learn as an English native speaker and lo and behold number 1-Bulgarian.
Side note recently found this British couple on TikTok they moved to Bulgaria with their child in the summer of 2024 and they already speak the language just a year later.
Then she says Bulgarian Salah will say something in Bulgarian to the baby and she asks what is it and then she tries to learn, then she says she’s not that stupid and she speaks some Bulgarian shortly after that she says “not at all conversation level “ then what do you speak, nothing 5 and half years in Bulgaria and she knows nothing.
Then she goes to say that Bulgarian is like no other language in Europe , except Ilona there are 12 other Slavic languages that are very similar to Bulgarian and if you are a speaker of any of those it will be easier to understand the rest.
Then she goes to say how Bulgarian language has nouns that are feminine or masculine and how this is so difficult and not like any other language, I speak 5 languages and this is the case for all of the languages I speak except ENGLISH.
She always says how she speaks French and blah blah, surely she knows that nouns have gender in French (same in Bulgarian) i. e a book will be male.
Then she goes to say how there are 3 different ways to write in Bulgarian which is unseen and so difficult: 1. She says capital letters are different, hate to break it to you but capital “R”looks different to small “r” in English, literally the same. 2. letters that people use writing are different, yeah Ilona, English cursive is also different than print. 3. the print version is used on official documents and signs but is different than the one used by people writing. Again cursive is different in any languages.
Just say you couldn’t be bothered to learn anything for nearly 6 years. Literally asked chat GPT what is the easiest Slavic language to learn as an English native speaker and lo and behold number 1-Bulgarian.
Side note recently found this British couple on TikTok they moved to Bulgaria with their child in the summer of 2024 and they already speak the language just a year later.
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The problem is she doesn't work or properly integrate in Bulgaria she doesn't have a traditional job, she works from home. Her friend Lucy is German. Most of her clients are probably English speaking. She hasn't needed to learn more than she needs to get by in Bulgaria.
I understand but it’s been 6 years, most Bulgarians do not speak much English at all. So she has no way of communicating with people outside of her very small circle. And at this point she does not speak any Bulgarian, to the point that she was mispronouncing her friend Velika’s name for years only recently in the past 2 years she learnt how to pronounce it. And she’s known this girl since she moved there 5 and half years ago as she was her ex husbands classmate. Mind you that name means “great” and it’s a word people use on a daily basis. This is so weird to me tbh
I agree. I can't imagine living somewhere and not making an effort. I live in a different country to where I was born and speak the language fluently, and I work from home too. Heck, I make an effort with the language when I just go on holiday! It makes no sense, especially when she's known for a while she wanted to raise a child in Bulgaria.
she's just been the biggest hermit sitting home all day talking about other people online -Sorry but that's quite lazy she could've spent her time preparing for this future. She's struggling hard, now.
I'm going to preface this by saying I do watch Ilona's content and enjoy listening to her perspective on things but she does minimise the struggles that most of the Gorls have with over eating and food addition.
I am trying to lose weight but am an emotion and binge eater. I know what I need to be doing to lose weight but sometimes, especially when stressed or upset I can't help but binge on chocolate. I've been doing a binge eating course but it is still a struggle.
I have managed to kick my takeaway addition, I used to order pizza at least once a week but it did take time and I had to be in the right headspace and make plans to kick the habit.
It's all well and good to say they just need to eat chicken rice and brocoli but the Gorls have an addiction to the wrong foods which are literally designed to be hyperpaletteable .
To be clear the Gorls are in control and have the resources to manage their diet and weight but I think they generally don't want to cut back on food and are worried about losing viewers if they aren't train wrecks. Amber could never work a normal job. I honestly don't see most of the Gorls being here in 5 years time
I am trying to lose weight but am an emotion and binge eater. I know what I need to be doing to lose weight but sometimes, especially when stressed or upset I can't help but binge on chocolate. I've been doing a binge eating course but it is still a struggle.
I have managed to kick my takeaway addition, I used to order pizza at least once a week but it did take time and I had to be in the right headspace and make plans to kick the habit.
It's all well and good to say they just need to eat chicken rice and brocoli but the Gorls have an addiction to the wrong foods which are literally designed to be hyperpaletteable .
To be clear the Gorls are in control and have the resources to manage their diet and weight but I think they generally don't want to cut back on food and are worried about losing viewers if they aren't train wrecks. Amber could never work a normal job. I honestly don't see most of the Gorls being here in 5 years time
I think Illona has simply followed the usual path of someone whose channel had become their (minor) livelihood. The typical isolation of the 'job' combined with the near-daily ego-stroking via parasocial relationship with her viewers and online clients, have turned her into the worst version of herself.
When she first popped up, she seemed vaguely normal because her lifestyle was normal. She was in the UK, working a normal full time job with real live human beings of all sorts, with her boyfriend working a normal job, and gym stuff was an interest, but not an all-consuming one. her youtube was something done on the side as a hobby. She did other things than focus on her body and sniping about other people's bodies online 24/7.
The move to Bulgaria for me was the start of the slope into the rather sad lolcow she's turned into by this point in time. Running away from UK Covid restrictions with her macho man Bulgarian husband and ending up in some backwater in Bulgaria in a house soon filled with his male relatives, with duck all to do, no real job, and her husband highly predictably reverting to some fairly brutal cultural sexist attitudes by the sound of it. I truly felt sorry for her then, but it didn't surprise me. It was an ill thought out, knee jerk choice. People treat moving to other countries like some fun holiday - it can be a brutally isolating experience if you allow it, and a good way to allow it is by going there simply because you're running away from something else, and being the foreign, fish out of water tag along to a bloke and ending up jobless in a tit small town. It was also the point it struck me that this woman is totally fool-centric, which is a trait that won't serve most women well and hasn't served her well.
So we get treated to her divorce about ten seconds after her marriage, and then it's a parade of obvious tacky Bulgarian fuckboys (to everyone but her) all of which Illona seemed to choose for their most superficial aspects - their looks, and muscularity (with that spiel she does about someone breaking in and hAvInG tO dEfEnD hErSelF, which is a WEIRD fixation for someone from safe western countries). Which paired up really well with her spiralling further and further into her 'sport' - which is by her own admission a drug-absuing, shallow as duck, expensive muscle beauty contest - and becoming utterly obsessed with making her own body fit an aesthetic deemed acceptable by the bodybuilding federations. She has become more and more superficial a person as she got further and further into bodybuilding. The drug damage is so obvious by this point. As, honestly, is the plastic surgery stuff. Her face looks distorted and I think she's lost any sight of how far she's gone. I think she thinks she looks normal. She doesn't. She could actually pass for a transwoman by this point.
I think the best thing she could have done is leave Bulgaria pronto after her marriage imploded nastily, go back to her own country and get a real, decent job. Instead she stuck around in a country she doesn't fit in culturally, and never will no matter how much red pill in-mah-femininity breeder rubbish she spouts out her piehole, because I think she realised she couldn't live alone on her fluctuating YT earnings and online coach money back home, but she could in a country with a far weaker currency than the ones she gets paid in. So she stuck around and descended into grinding self-isolation and fixation on her body and getting a boyfriend to have kids with, because it's obvious she was lonely and felt out of place in that country no matter how much she pretended otherwise. I think if she had a full normal life in a country she could actually communicate in, the fixations might not have taken hold so much. Reacts are obviously what brings in the best money, so she got stuck doing those more and more. Imagine getting up and HAVING to react to Chantal or AMber or Anna every day. I think she's become fairly spiteful as time has gone on too, out of sheer resentment at being in her situation.
I saw a documentary on competitive level female bodybuilders as part of going down a bit of a rabbit hole about bodybuilding. Basically most women eem to get into it after being in the grip of a severe eating disorder. Ilona has admitted she grew up with bulimia and never really dropped her ED until she discovered bodybuilding. I think she's basically she's just found a substitute and it's eating her alive in the same way. The drug use is standard, and they all think they're the exception that uses the stuff properly and won't ever get ducked by it. It's a pursuit that seems stuffed with narcissistic weirdos tbqh.
When she first popped up, she seemed vaguely normal because her lifestyle was normal. She was in the UK, working a normal full time job with real live human beings of all sorts, with her boyfriend working a normal job, and gym stuff was an interest, but not an all-consuming one. her youtube was something done on the side as a hobby. She did other things than focus on her body and sniping about other people's bodies online 24/7.
The move to Bulgaria for me was the start of the slope into the rather sad lolcow she's turned into by this point in time. Running away from UK Covid restrictions with her macho man Bulgarian husband and ending up in some backwater in Bulgaria in a house soon filled with his male relatives, with duck all to do, no real job, and her husband highly predictably reverting to some fairly brutal cultural sexist attitudes by the sound of it. I truly felt sorry for her then, but it didn't surprise me. It was an ill thought out, knee jerk choice. People treat moving to other countries like some fun holiday - it can be a brutally isolating experience if you allow it, and a good way to allow it is by going there simply because you're running away from something else, and being the foreign, fish out of water tag along to a bloke and ending up jobless in a tit small town. It was also the point it struck me that this woman is totally fool-centric, which is a trait that won't serve most women well and hasn't served her well.
So we get treated to her divorce about ten seconds after her marriage, and then it's a parade of obvious tacky Bulgarian fuckboys (to everyone but her) all of which Illona seemed to choose for their most superficial aspects - their looks, and muscularity (with that spiel she does about someone breaking in and hAvInG tO dEfEnD hErSelF, which is a WEIRD fixation for someone from safe western countries). Which paired up really well with her spiralling further and further into her 'sport' - which is by her own admission a drug-absuing, shallow as duck, expensive muscle beauty contest - and becoming utterly obsessed with making her own body fit an aesthetic deemed acceptable by the bodybuilding federations. She has become more and more superficial a person as she got further and further into bodybuilding. The drug damage is so obvious by this point. As, honestly, is the plastic surgery stuff. Her face looks distorted and I think she's lost any sight of how far she's gone. I think she thinks she looks normal. She doesn't. She could actually pass for a transwoman by this point.
I think the best thing she could have done is leave Bulgaria pronto after her marriage imploded nastily, go back to her own country and get a real, decent job. Instead she stuck around in a country she doesn't fit in culturally, and never will no matter how much red pill in-mah-femininity breeder rubbish she spouts out her piehole, because I think she realised she couldn't live alone on her fluctuating YT earnings and online coach money back home, but she could in a country with a far weaker currency than the ones she gets paid in. So she stuck around and descended into grinding self-isolation and fixation on her body and getting a boyfriend to have kids with, because it's obvious she was lonely and felt out of place in that country no matter how much she pretended otherwise. I think if she had a full normal life in a country she could actually communicate in, the fixations might not have taken hold so much. Reacts are obviously what brings in the best money, so she got stuck doing those more and more. Imagine getting up and HAVING to react to Chantal or AMber or Anna every day. I think she's become fairly spiteful as time has gone on too, out of sheer resentment at being in her situation.
I saw a documentary on competitive level female bodybuilders as part of going down a bit of a rabbit hole about bodybuilding. Basically most women eem to get into it after being in the grip of a severe eating disorder. Ilona has admitted she grew up with bulimia and never really dropped her ED until she discovered bodybuilding. I think she's basically she's just found a substitute and it's eating her alive in the same way. The drug use is standard, and they all think they're the exception that uses the stuff properly and won't ever get ducked by it. It's a pursuit that seems stuffed with narcissistic weirdos tbqh.
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You know she could have found a decent paying job (3000 euro net) in Sofia in Bulgaria because she speaks Dutch, there are many foreigners over there she could have found friends… maternity leave is 2 years paid with first year +45 days at 90% of your gross income and she could still do YouTube on the side. Her vlogs would have been so much more interesting her trying to navigate real life in Bulgaria. Instead of finding the worst Bulgaria men on tinder lol and getting pregnant within the first 2 months of a relationship.
I mean, she was so unprepared and adrift with that first stint in Bulgaria, and when they split, she said Ivo (or whatever his name was) refused to help her again with a single thing related to life there, so I think she just retreated into what she knew and felt safe, which was her online sources of income and this bodybuilder persona, rather than battle through figuring out the job scene and reinventing herself again.
Getting pregnant within weeks of knowing a guy is insane - at her age she really should know better. I give it a year or two at best before they separate.
She was driven -I thought she had worked so hard on her body it was sad for me to see her go down the traditional path of being a wife and mother to her kid.
She can do what she likes but it isn't sort of the deal I expected from her if anyone get's my drift?
She can do what she likes but it isn't sort of the deal I expected from her if anyone get's my drift?
I think she's just in the grip of various compulsions, tbqh.
The body stuff is presented as Little Miss Empowerment (oog look, a STRONG WOMAN WHO LIFTS WEIGHTS WITH THE DUDES, how niche and better-than!), but is essentially driven by her sheer horror at being perceived as large or big, or simply not hot, when she was younger.
There's a ollllld video where she shows old photos of herself back before she started the gym obsession and talks about how she felt about herself back then, and it's all highly negative self-talk about what pictures show to be just an ordinary size young woman. She was never large-large, but she drove herself into purging her food daily with all the horrible health effects that causes because she thought she was compared to her peers, insisting everyone in Europe is teeny-tiny small sized.
Now as a 'bodybuilder' *flexes bicep charmingly* she gets to obsessively weigh, measure, and ant-duck her portions and exercise endlessly in a similarly obsessive, disordered way and make sure her body large is low enough it ducks her endocrine system (this is what you are doing when you exercise and reduce body large low enough to the point your periods stop). Yapping as they all do about 'health' while bleeping their endocrine system (temporarily or permanently, she is lucky she got temporarily, I've know women who essentially killed their fertility stone dead with this idiocy), living on highly processed foods (flavoured protein powder is a highly processed food, Ilona) duck all vegetables and then, for EXTRAHEALTH, necking an increasing stack of bought from some wanker online, never spoken to a doctor about this, PEDS including masculinizing drugs and bleeping Growth Hormone (which is a fabulous thing to take if your body ever springs a tumour as Lance Armstrong found it, increased cell division means ALL cells including cancer cells, the stupidity of any athlete taking this is profound, it's a mental disease). Of course, iIona consults the Bro Science lab which tells her is fine to take GH (no, it isn't) and she 'knows what she's doing' and works with a coach (who like all coaches has no medical qualifications and learned his tit from other bodybuilders).
Living her entire life around Professionally Not Being large (the contempt she spits at large women online shows you how much she fears it for herself) has resulted in permanent harm (the voice deepening is irreversible, as is the masculinized jawline) and I don't really want to go into detail about what masculinizing drugs to the female genitalia, but it's also permanent. Thing is, all pro female bodybuilders are cut from the same cloth and she would know what this stuff does to women. She's accepted all these permanent changes to her body, while also running a twin track which played the daily smash hit 'Get married to Very Masculine Man and Have Babies and be SAHM' which shows you all this stuff is the result of disordered thinking and serious, harmful compulsions.
Yes that’s the thing. She’s not traditional. The kid is just a box to tick, she tried so hard to get that pro-card and was unsuccessful and could not longer continue to brag how much better she is than other people. And what do other women do, they have children and she has to have that thing done, and it will automatically all go onto her child, even while she was pregnant. She would not stop saying how her child is the healthiest child, with ZERO chance of health issues, no chance of any deficiencies, so healthy, even though having a healthy child after pregnancy is the norm, having issues is abnormal. But it’s not enough for her that her pregnancy is just normal, she has to tell you how much healthier her baby is.
And all of the other things she said about alexandra’s child and herself as a baby, she was so much better potty trained by the time she turned one (even tho the standard is 2 maybe 2 and half in Europe at least) and she said she will potty train her child that way. Now the baby is 10 days old and she is doing contrast cards and belly time, even if this is not unsafe and you or I might have done this with our children at 2-3 months old, she is doing it now because she’s so much better and her child is so much better, do you understand what I mean?
That’s not traditional, she’s literally acting like a man
I’d say she’s very insecure and will project everything on that child.She should know better at 39.
She'll think her baby is the most advanced and then start making excuses for why she's not walking at 9 months old. She's going to be insufferable. She's incredibly insecure, hence all the fillers, bodybuilding, "idgaf" personality, and trying to convince everyone she's better than them.
She’s the breadwinner in the relationship, the guy moved in with her the first month probably because he couldn’t afford rent on his own lol I’m from Sofia, but don’t live in Bulgaria anymore , he had his fb linked on his instagram before in the beginning of their relationship so I clicked on it and he had posted in renters groups on fb that he was looking for an apartment a few months ago with a budget quite below the average for the city, so this made me think he cannot afford much.
But yeah other than that he’s 8-9 years younger than her, and from everything she posts his parents don’t seem to be involved with is VERY UNUSUAL for Bulgaria, when I say very I mean VERY, even people with estranged parents (which is very rare by itself) will have their parents back in their life once they have kids. Knowing the fact that he’s from a smaller town/village I bet they are literally horrified and ashamed, as the way she looks is not widely accepted over there the muscles and the tattoos, the being older than him is like a no-no especially people there have children so young, at this time the average age for first time mum is 26, back then was even younger. But that’s just speculation
Are you being serious ?? The baby will be reading Greg Doucette’s diet cookbook by the time she’s 9 month old lol
Watch her try to convince us all she's in a very stable relationship with a Very Traditional Man and she's being provided for though .. until the facade cracks and shatters, as it will, probably so fast her head will bleeping spin. This guy must be as cracked as she is to knock her up as fast as he did. Maybe he didn't expect it to actually happen, but just went along because hey, unprotected sex?
As for breadwinner, yikes. There are thousands upon thousands of similarly totally unqualified 'online coaches' shilling their little plans online. She clearly got most work via parasocial bonds formed by being an online 'personality'. I have to wonder how much she makes from that especially as the quality of her stuff has plummeted and she's become such a trainwreck in her personal life which she broadcasts for all to see. Failing to get her ProCard won't help either. Also, it's an unreliable income. Good luck.
Oh, I totally believe you, and I get it. It's just more evidence the woman is fixated on having the man + baby thing, even when it's a total trainwreck with zero longevity. Like I said, she doesn't fit in in normal Bulgarian circles yet she's trying to construct this very normal life there, it's staggering how dumb she's being. Nobody would blink an eye at her in UK or Netherland, or Sweden, being an older first time mother, or having a lot of tats. It's like she took that turn into stupidity back in the Ivo days and never recovered any common sense.
Babies are challenging to relationships at the best of time. If she and him don't have the respect and support of HIS parents, who ae at least in the same country as her (unlike hers), she's really, yet again, managed to isolate herself on another level. One thing just having dogs and being able to pick up and duck off back to her home country, different story when you've got yourself entangled to the point of having a child with a local.
Speaking of ... wonder how long the dogs will last, now she's saddled with a baby and a bloke who culturally speaking, probably isn't going to pitch in much. I always had her as a big animal lover who'd put them first, but seeing her current turn into seriously profound man-focused idiocy I can imagine her changing in that regard.
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Narcissistic mothers can be the worst.. I think daughters especially get affected the most and it's very likely the relationship will get strained.
Imagine if the kid doesn't eat boiled chicken and asparagus everyday...she'll have a meltdown. Usually these types of mothers are put in place by their kids once they're adults, if they don't lack the ability to stand up for themselves.
The above poster brings up a solid point. Gosh I hope she will not rehome those innocent dogs in the wake of her perfect 'child'. Or her cat. She has said in the past how much disdain she had when Foodie Beauty rehomed her pets and how she could never, but literally now she's in the same situation it'll be interesting to see what she'll do.
Imagine if the kid doesn't eat boiled chicken and asparagus everyday...she'll have a meltdown. Usually these types of mothers are put in place by their kids once they're adults, if they don't lack the ability to stand up for themselves.
The above poster brings up a solid point. Gosh I hope she will not rehome those innocent dogs in the wake of her perfect 'child'. Or her cat. She has said in the past how much disdain she had when Foodie Beauty rehomed her pets and how she could never, but literally now she's in the same situation it'll be interesting to see what she'll do.
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