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Friendsfan

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I don’t in a million years think domestic abuse should be hidden or hushed hushed to save the perpetrator from embarrassment. Sorry don’t think i’m great with my words.
i know i shouldn’t rely on newspapers articles but continuously denies ever been assaulted by Caroline now. I think this was before her death.
Sorry i must of missed the bit when Caroline abused him for years in their 6 month relationship.

i just think he regrets handling the situation how he did. Thats all.
I think because how well known Caroline was it would of been difficult to go into a norm job. Everyone has feelings of embarrassment. Can you imagine the sun having a field day because shes working as a receptionist?
 
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Moley1

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Sorry to disagree but the media circus would have been exactly the same. Only recently have the news channels been swamped with Covid 19 news and the courts have been closed for a while anyway. This was a major story for the tabloids. There is no way it would have been played down.
 
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Jumperoo62

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It sounds like she argued and fell out with a lot of people she worked and was friends with.That seems to have been her way.She was clearly a complicated woman.I liked Caroline, but she was a weird mix of insecurity and bolshiness.
That chap said she was like a sister so it’s a little confusing. Have you listened to the Podcast? I haven’t but without hearing it The interview is just snippets from it so it’s hard to understand the context of his comments. He is spot on about reading comments about herself and it sounds like he was good enough to tell her not to do that. She should have listened. That sounds like torture. She had a lot of good friends and seemed well liked but she was obviously very complicated.
 
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VomitCulture

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Her sister saying people didn’t know the full truth seems like she could have been protecting her? Or that the full truth was she had mental health problems? I’m not sure what demons she had, I’ve read she self harmed and was depressed, plus very emotional since her sister said she didn’t cope well with heartbreak, but not sure what diagnosis that could possibly come under it.
I get that the mum might want to blame Lewis because coming to terms that your child died of non natural causes is very distressing. But my understanding is Lewis called the police because Caroline hit him or attacked him in some way. He had every right to call for assistance if he needed it. It’s not fair to blame him for that.
Depression is a mental health diagnosis
 
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Jkay

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I feel very split on this relationship, but I honestly think they could’ve avoided the press at the time of Caroline’s inquest. They clearly have managed until now, if the stories of them getting together in March are true.

It honestly baffles me

PICTURE EXCLUSIVE: Lewis Burton and Lottie Tomlinson step out together
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The press probably have had pictures of them for a while but because they weren't printed the the two of them may have thought they were safe but the papers waited until it was noteworthy. Or on the other hand, the two of them didn't call the paps until the picture was worth selling
 
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lipsticktaser

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They’re moving from Borderline to Emotionally Unstable. Borderline Personality Disorder is wildly over used as a diagnosis for people with difficulties that don’t fit in to a specific box. One of the reasons Personality Disorders are given such a bad rep.
Totally agree about the over diagnosis. I went to a group therapy and there were so many people where I questioned their diagnosis. My consultant said it was lazy diagnosing. Can’t pinpoint and don’t have the time, EUPD.
 
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MammaTubbs

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I can’t find any photos like that, but I did find some photos from the after party of her putting herself in between Hooky & her ex Matt Bowers when there was an all out brawl with around 5 men. There was a photo of her laying into Hooky after he’d been dragged away, but can’t find it anywhere. These photos were in the tabloids at the time.
What the hell is that Denise Royle!? 😱
 
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Suzesnooze

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I thought it said she text her friend the night before she died saying she was going to kill herself? They then went to her house, called an ambulance but she refused to go and denied saying it, then the following morning she asked her Mum and sister to come over that day instead and told the 2 friends to leave as she was annoyed they’d called the ambulance the night previously
Sorry, yes I misquoted there.

Although when looking it up I found another part that says it's Caroline's mother who said Lewis sent the photo of the blood to his ex:

She told the court Mr Burton had sent the picture to an ex-girlfriend.

"Lewis sent the photo of the blood and sent it to his friend," Mrs Flack said, during evidence given by the star's friend Mollie Grosberg.

Ms Grosberg replied: "As far as I know, this is the God's honest truth, she never mentioned a word to me that he had sold or given the photo to an ex-girlfriend. That was never mentioned to me."

In response, Mrs Flack said: "She said it to me and it was devastating that she found out."
 
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artnouveau

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I just read the fail article about the friends who are in/out etc. I don't know much about the situation in more detail than that but a couple of times it states that Caroline wasn't happy with Lottie being in contact with Lewis , I'm wondering if it was Lottie who she found to be messaging Lewis, not that it matters now or changes anything.
 
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GeminiMoon

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I have a friend who has suffered on and off with depression for over forty years. She is currently suffering badly, and can only manage to think, and, or plan five minutes ahead. Over the years she has been admitted to hospital on about 3 occasions, much to her relief, as she feels safe there.

Sometimes her depression is so bad that she worries that she will never come out of it, and, in the past she has taken overdoses a couple of times and looked at other ways of killing herself.

At the moment, she desperately wants to be in hospital, but unfortunately, these days that is not an option where she lives anymore.
Part of the NHS Long Term Plan is moving services like mental health services from acute settings (hospitals) to community-based services so it will eventually be nationwide.
 
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FridaK

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Wow she's definitely not a clinical psychologist and she shouldn't work with people. She's dangerous.
Is she not? I wondered about that as she is really unprofessional if she is an practising Clinical Psychologist. Unless she is on the register This Morning should be call her a resident psychologist. I noticed she spurning on Stephanie Davies at one point and couldn’t make sense of that if she was a practising Psychologist
 
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duskwithoutdawn

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He actually tweeted about her positively, right? Called her sweet.
Yes, as a 17 year old though. He wore a ribbon for her at the Brits a few days after she died I think so I don’t know what his feelings towards her are. Probably very complicated. If everyone around him was saying it was fine and justifying it then it’s possible he’s not unpacked that later in life.
 
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Be More Pacific

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Found it on Lou Teasdale's account....

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Top photograph is Stephen Teasdale (presumably Lou's father) Lou, Lewis and Jack McGuiness (GQ editor)

Second photograph is Lou & Molly.
 
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Mishka13

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Your friends account differs to what was stated at the inquest.

If you know someone close to
Your friends account differs to what was stated at the inquest.

If you know someone close to Lewis then have you told them how scared you are for Lottie?
You don’t think Lewis’s ex Laurenrosemusic and friends didn’t? You can t tell an adult what to do:: as you won’t be able to tell Lottie. She’s already having doubts; and so she should.
 
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The Devils Arse

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It was the mums chance to ask questions and make statements to those involved - of course she was going to be emotional. I cant even imagine the pain of losing a child. If she was screaming and roaring constantly, alright calm down, but it was her daughters inquest. She deserves a bit of slack.

Raising it from a caution to a charge was a bit weird, when the inspector said it was due to no admission of guilt.. but CF had repeatedly admitted it.
I believe she said she hit him at the scene, so it would have just been a significant statement. She didn't admit it during her interview, that she just flicked him.
 
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