Deeznutslol
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Let me get this straight. So this vile nonce was convicted of covertly filming a little girl in a changing room in 2008, yet somehow he was allowed to go on to teach kickboxing to children?
Sickening.
Sickening.
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veevee04
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Really awful thing has happened which has reminded me of Brianna. My daughter is 11 and there's a girl who's unhealthily obsessed with her. My daughter reported an ex friend attempted to push her into traffic last year , the driver had to slam on. The girl said it was an accident. I assumed it was arguing but its escalated . The girl had pictures of my daughter , she was jabbing her with pens, hitting her. No contact between them outside of school. Then when my daughter went to school she sent another child a note asking the child to push mine under a bus when she got back so they could be best friends. Utterly utterly fucked up, girl not allowed near her in school.
Scarlett jenkinson Mark 2 I've demanded the girl gets help and no contact. They won't suspend the girl
Fucking scary
Scarlett jenkinson Mark 2 I've demanded the girl gets help and no contact. They won't suspend the girl
Fucking scary
Thegirlwhouk
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Yep. I am made to do 'mindfulness' at the school I work out. We can't do anything particularly meaningful as I have several children with additional needs and they haven't got the support they need and deserve and need so they often loud and disruptive. My classroom is not a place for effective mindfulness. Essentially we do some calming colouring occasionally or watch a calming video. Which is of no benefit to anyone.
She would be MUCH better off campaigning for adequate SEN and mental health support for all children as with this I believe Brianna's story could have been different. Obviously Brianna needed support but arguable so did Scarlett and definitely Eddie. Things could have been very different if schools weren't so overstretched.
Shinythings
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I've said it before but sadly she's delusional if she thinks kids learning mindfulness will change how they treat eachother. Mindfulness is already in schools and is generally poorly taught and understood anyway. And it has absolutely nothing to do with how to treat people. Just because she found it helpful for her own anxiety doesn't mean it's going to stop kids being feral. Her time would be better spent on trying to get more systemic supporting terms of family therapy, behavioural support etc
redball00n
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I’ve noticed certain members of the trans brigade on social media who clearly have not followed the case or trial properly whatsoever like to paint the picture that Brianna was this meek individual with no friends who was constantly ostracised and bullied because it fits their narrative - I saw one tweet where someone mentioned Brianna and then proceeded to rant about how there is a “trans genocide” happening and that trans people are being murdered on the streets on a daily basis. Brianna did have friends - a group of them were interviewed on North West tonight when the trial was over and they spoke at her vigil. I’ve seen a few of her Tik Toks too and again, in some she was with friends. If anything, Scarlett Jenkinson appears to have been the one with no friends. Even before everyone knew who she was, she had barely any likes or comments on her social media posts, no photos of her out or doing anything fun with friends. I honestly find it sickening that people ( no one on here) are still continuing to use this poor child to push an agenda - just leave it alone and let her rest in peace.
Elle Woods
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Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing? I'm sure at some point Esther has looked back over what Brianna posted online and thought maybe she should have had monitored her online presence a bit more, hence the campaigning now. It's also a case of "easier said than done". I can see what she's trying to achieve, but I don't know how enforceable it would be in reality. You can't police everything a teenager does, even if you try. Sometimes, monitoring too much will just cause them to rebel, I've seen it in my own family.
euphoria99
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as a teacher, please report this to the police and get a restraining order
Ensay
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I think when a child dies young (especially in very tragic circumstances such as this) their parents often want to improve things for other children to reduce the likelihood of it happening again. Which I understand, because if you can achieve some change for the good, then their death wasn't in vain. Also it gives them something to channel their energy into.
Unfortunately I think some of Esther's proposals just aren't workable in practice, though I fully understand why she's made the suggestions she has. It feels like trying to put the genie back into the bottle.
My brother was telling me that he and his wife just aren't going to give my nephew a smartphone because once you do, you can't really take it away, plus restricting usage becomes hard. He knows he'll want a phone before long, but he's just going to be firm and say no. He also won't get him a tablet yet either.
Unfortunately I think some of Esther's proposals just aren't workable in practice, though I fully understand why she's made the suggestions she has. It feels like trying to put the genie back into the bottle.
My brother was telling me that he and his wife just aren't going to give my nephew a smartphone because once you do, you can't really take it away, plus restricting usage becomes hard. He knows he'll want a phone before long, but he's just going to be firm and say no. He also won't get him a tablet yet either.
CrushedIcePlease
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I’ve just seen Eddie’s dad has been jailed for 15 months…
nothinonyou
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"He had also carried out internet searches during his son's trial relating to sex acts involving schoolchildren."
Wtf who even gets horny while your son is on trial for murder? Twisted weirdo hope the girlfriend leaves him and he never sees his kids again. Also Brianna would probably be alive if it wasn't for him buying Eddie the knife. Hope he lives the rest of his life knowing that
Wtf who even gets horny while your son is on trial for murder? Twisted weirdo hope the girlfriend leaves him and he never sees his kids again. Also Brianna would probably be alive if it wasn't for him buying Eddie the knife. Hope he lives the rest of his life knowing that
GrunkaLunka
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Ratcliffe claimed he often drove with his trousers down due to a need to go to the toilet urgently for medical reasons
I really hope he is never around any children again. Fucking monster.
I really hope he is never around any children again. Fucking monster.
ClaretFairy
Chatty Member
Absolutely.
Campaigning to have a Counsellor in every school and train them to be able to provide mindfulness lessons would be far better.
Im tired of how much people seem to think teaching this that and the other at school is always the answer when really we already do what we can with a limited budget.
I teach a SEN class and they’ve all had bad experiences of mainstream because of lack of funding and training
Thegirlwhouk
Well-known member
Mine will be told very very strictly that until they are at least 15/16 their phones and Internet usage will be very strictly monitored. They already are, neither of mine are allowed games (Fortnite, Roblox) etc that their friends are allowed because as a parent that's the choice I've made.
People bang on about privacy but to me it's about safety. I didn't have a mobile phone growing up and I had privacy in different ways. If Scarlett's or Eddies parents had checked their phones/internet usage, they would have had an idea of how screwed up their children were becoming. I am fairly certain the police reports made it clear the messages weren't hidden.
People bang on about privacy but to me it's about safety. I didn't have a mobile phone growing up and I had privacy in different ways. If Scarlett's or Eddies parents had checked their phones/internet usage, they would have had an idea of how screwed up their children were becoming. I am fairly certain the police reports made it clear the messages weren't hidden.
repairshoplover
Chatty Member
The fact he had previous convictions for similar offences. He clearly isn’t rehabilitated from the previous offencesz
BarryEvansHun
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I caught my daughter posting inappropriate things on Snapchat when she was 14. She was then banned from Snapchat while she was under my roof. Only social media she was allowed as a teen was instagram (when it was just a picture app) and Pinterest. Before I let her download Snapchat, she was made aware of the rules and consequences of abusing it and I followed through.
Shinythings
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Playing the hard girl, she's going to get a horrible shock when she is moved into the adult population. They hate cocky little cunts like her.
I find it hard to fathom how she seems like she already making a good effort to never be released. Why would she want this for herself, to never be free again?
I find it hard to fathom how she seems like she already making a good effort to never be released. Why would she want this for herself, to never be free again?
It is difficult to find a happy place when it comes to helping teenagers navigate social media, especial ND teenagers. Of course it's understandable that they want to be on the same platforms as their friends, there's a lot of peer pressure and they don't want to feel left out but our job as parents is to protect and guide our kids which is where I think the failings are. Many many kids are just left to get on with it and yes of course they'll hide things from us and not be completely honest about some things but keeping the lines of communication open is key as is being prepared to make regular judgement calls on their safety, privacy and independence as they grow. I think, whilst clearly well intended, Esther's campaign is neither achievable or advisable. A controversial opinion I'm sure but I don't necessarily think SM is a bad thing when used properly. My child has SEND and struggles with friendships at times. SM has given her the chance to speak to other ND children who she otherwise wouldn't have been in contact with and has helped widen her little world. She also gets a huge amount of enjoyment and comfort watching her favourite tiktokers and instagrammers.