I do care, consent is not transferable.No you’re not thinking about genitals, you’re thinking about their size. Different.
In any of the multiple times I’ve been in hospital I’d never have known/cared if there was a trans woman anywhere in the vicinity. Speak for yourself.
Agreed, I feel a bit responsible for this post taking this turn as I made a point that her trans identity must’ve had an impact on her mental health, but only because her Mum had said it hadn’t. This is one of the most disturbing cases I have ever heard and my heart goes out to Brianna’s family.Honestly this gender discussion is just going round in pointless circles and really, it's irrelevant here. Brianna was killed simply because she happened to be next on the list. The first child didn't work out, so she was next, if it wasn't her it would have been someone else. It's as simple as that. Whatever your stance on gender, this is a DEAD CHILD and I think whatever your views, we just need to.move on from the discussion and let her rest in peace.
Genitals are just one aspect of the larger thing some of us recognise as 'biological sex'.No you’re not thinking about genitals, you’re thinking about their size. Different.
In any of the multiple times I’ve been in hospital I’d never have known/cared if there was a trans woman anywhere in the vicinity. Speak for yourself.
No need to feel responsible! It’s a topic that naturally causes some heated debate because of people’s strong opinions.Agreed, I feel a bit responsible for this post taking this turn as I made a point that her trans identity must’ve had an impact on her mental health, but only because her Mum had said it hadn’t. This is one of the most disturbing cases I have ever heard and my heart goes out to Brianna’s family.
Well, considering children spend 30+ hours per week at school and don’t just have feelings at home I would have thought something would have been offered at school to support them. Having your school friend murdered by another school pupil isn’t really a normal thing for a child to go through. Even something like some activity sessions together to boost morale. Idk I was under the impression schools have a duty of care.@Notworthy I couldn’t agree more.
That’s what their parents are for!
I really don’t know how some of these kids get though the day. I’m surprised some of them can tie their own shoe laces!
The lack of resilience in Some of today’s teenagers is staggering.
Well, just because you don't mind 'trans women' ie men in your safe spaces doesn't give you the right to speak for other women.No you’re not thinking about genitals, you’re thinking about their size. Different.
In any of the multiple times I’ve been in hospital I’d never have known/cared if there was a trans woman anywhere in the vicinity. Speak for yourself.
I think you link the new thread in this one, then report the comment and ask a mod to close it.I can't remember how to set up a new thread - well I can set up the new one but I can't remember what I need to do with this one. Can someone do the necessary please?
Oftentimes “supportive care” is synonymous with affirmative care and TRAs are known for their no debate stance. So if this care is delivered by agencies like Tavistock the young person won’t be encouraged to question themself and what is underlying their unease. I think the point you’re maybe not considering is that with a lot of young people with gender dysphoria they are looking to feel at ease with themselves because they are unhappy and feel “wrong” in themselves. Examples could be an effeminate boy, a butch girl, someone with autism- not easily identifying with so-called societal norms. There is nothing “wrong” with them, they just haven’t found their niche yet. If they had proper supportive care ie addressing what is making them feel so unhappy with themselves, they would no longer feel the need to access hormones, surgery, irreversibly damaging “treatments”. They don’t need to become someone else to be happy, but they can’t yet see that and trans as in social transition is a quick fix. Affirmation is so easy to find in online communities and all of a sudden there are lots of people welcoming them and encouraging them to become their “authentic self”. They look, act, are different but if the bad feelings inside aren’t fixed then trans is just a sticking plaster and it will all resurface down the line. By which time their body might be damaged beyond repair.Quite agree on support, I’ve stressed that several times now. Some people see ‘support’ and assume that means blindly affirming. All I ever said by support was that I would not push my views on the child.
For others on here it sound like their view of support is telling their child there is no such thing as being born into the wrong body and to catch themselves on.
All I’ve said is to me, there’s a danger there in damaging that child’s confidence in you as a parent and encouraging them not be open and communicative
And if after years of support from doctors and counsellors, your child still felt the same way and medical professionals confirmed the child’s gender identity does not match their biological sex- then what? Continue not to affirm their ‘delusions?’
The issue for me here is people’s opinions on gender identity is only that- their opinion. They can feel free to believe what they want and call it a mental illness, but take a wee look at the NHS website on the issue. I’ll take my learning and knowledge on the matter from the medical professional community and not from Brenda on tattle who got her degree from the ‘school of hard knocks’ or the ‘university of life’
You have worded what I was trying to express yesterday perfectly. I totally agree many teens giving themselves a ‘ label’ now are very likely to grow out of it, for the vast majority it’s a period of self exploration and trying to find their niche, as you put it.Oftentimes “supportive care” is synonymous with affirmative care and TRAs are known for their no debate stance. So if this care is delivered by agencies like Tavistock the young person won’t be encouraged to question themself and what is underlying their unease. I think the point you’re maybe not considering is that with a lot of young people with gender dysphoria they are looking to feel at ease with themselves because they are unhappy and feel “wrong” in themselves. Examples could be an effeminate boy, a butch girl, someone with autism- not easily identifying with so-called societal norms. There is nothing “wrong” with them, they just haven’t found their niche yet. If they had proper supportive care ie addressing what is making them feel so unhappy with themselves, they would no longer feel the need to access hormones, surgery, irreversibly damaging “treatments”. They don’t need to become someone else to be happy, but they can’t yet see that and trans as in social transition is a quick fix. Affirmation is so easy to find in online communities and all of a sudden there are lots of people welcoming them and encouraging them to become their “authentic self”. They look, act, are different but if the bad feelings inside aren’t fixed then trans is just a sticking plaster and it will all resurface down the line. By which time their body might be damaged beyond repair.
precisely that’s why I said speak for yourself. I don’t speak for you, you don’t speak for me. End of.I do care, consent is not transferable.
Hang on, didn't Brianna have no friends?Briannas school friends have also had such a raw deal. This could be their first experience of loss and grief and for it to be in these circumstances. Poor kids
Friends or not, the death of one of your schoolmates, especially in such a violent manner is disturbing and extremely difficult to come to terms with.Hang on, didn't Brianna have no friends?
Changing the narrative a bit here.
I tell the truth.Friends or not, the death of one of your schoolmates, especially in such a violent manner is disturbing and extremely difficult to come to terms with.
Umm okay?I tell the truth.
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