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Samethen became convinced it was a wider conspiracy led by a plot twist of Campbell and Vine lawyers. Bedtime
my conspiracy-of-choice was a distraction from the goerge osbourne email
and yes i think you're right, bed time it is
Also I did spy in the one IG photo I grabbed I noticed 
in the caption. Again felt off cos I know now where those had been.
in the caption. Again felt off cos I know now where those had been. 
According to The Guardian, The Sun newsroom appears to be trying to distance themselves from the criminal aspect of this by saying that the original story was just about the parents being concerned about their child
Obviously we don’t know what’s going on at the BBC/police but it’s not looking as bad as it did originally
Or whether she's moved yet (no).
I don't know, some of them songs were tit! Fairground? Holding back the years? Something got me started?
I looked up replies to his past tweets and he’s deleted a few of his tweets that had prompted replies calling him sexy lol. In one of them the comment is something along the lines of “well, to be fair, you are sexy”.
just makes me wonder what the tweet originally said & if this & the others were included in his tweet deleting spree
just makes me wonder what the tweet originally said & if this & the others were included in his tweet deleting spree
I just saw a comment on twitter about HE the person pretty much said how would one feel if the presenter was to take his own life over these claims. I know he’s had previous MH issues and having been there myself I know when pressure mounts it’s a thought, however I don’t feel sorry for him in any way not one bit but do hope he has some support and isn’t feeling that way.
Great article focused on The Sun
And here’s a snippet
Five questions for the Sun on its story about the suspended BBC presenter
As the Sun distances itself from a key part of the story, questions hang over what actions it took before publishing
The Sun is facing questions over the reporting that led to the suspension of a well-known male BBC presenter.
On Saturday the tabloid broke the story with a front page article, claiming “a well-known presenter” gave a 20-year-old crack c user “more than £35,000 since they were 17 in return for sordid images”.
The most powerful of the newspaper’s allegations was that the young person was under 18 when they allegedly began selling pictures to the BBC presenter, raising the possibility that a serious criminal offence may have been committed.
Now the Sun is distancing itself from that element of the story, after the person at the centre of the story, now aged 20 and legally an adult, insisted the newspaper’s claims of illegal behaviour were “rubbish”.
These are the questions that remain about the Sun’s reporting:
1) Did the Sun contact the young person before publishing allegations?
The 20-year-old’s lawyer has said the Sun’s story is “rubbish”, alleged they were not approached for comment prior to publication, and insisted they told the Sun last week that the story was wrong.
Despite this, the Sun did not include any denial from the young person in its coverage until Monday night.
Sources in the Sun newsroom suggested the tabloid had been working on the story since at least Wednesday of last week, meaning they had at least 48 hours to approach the young person for their side of the story.
A Sun spokesperson did not return a request for comment on whether the newspaper had made any direct contact with the young person – or whether they had attempted to do so.
2) Did the Sun allege that the BBC presenter broke the law?
The newspaper’s initial reporting alleged the BBC presenter paid a teenager for “sordid images”, starting when the individual was 17.
This would appear to be a direct accusation that the presenter was commissioning child sexual abuse images, a serious criminal act that carries a prison sentence. It was this specific accusation that put the BBC into crisis mode, created a global scandal, and led to the presenter’s suspension.
Sources at the Sun are now distancing themselves from this line and claiming the story was not really about potential criminal activity. Instead, they suggest it was more about concerned parents trying to stop payments to a vulnerable child with a drug habit.
3) Does the Sun have hard evidence to back up its allegations?
The Sun’s reporting is largely based on anonymous interviews with the mother and stepfather of the young person. The newspaper says the mother approached them with the story, did not request a payment, and has signed a sworn legal affidavit that she is telling the truth.
It is unclear whether the Sun has seen the underlying evidence relating to the payments or the explicit material. For instance, the Sun said the stepfather “told the Beeb on 19 May of bank statements detailing huge payments from the star” but it is not clear whether the reporters have seen the bank statements.
A spokesperson from the newspaper emphasised that they were giving a voice to the parents’ allegations without definitively concluding they were correct: “We have reported a story about two very concerned parents who made a complaint to the BBC about the behaviour of a presenter and the welfare of their child. Their complaint was not acted upon by the BBC. We have seen evidence that supports their concerns. It’s now for the BBC to properly investigate.”
4) Is the Sun cooperating with police?
This is also unknown. If the Sun had evidence of a potential crime by a high-profile presenter it might be expected to share its reporting with the police to aid them with their inquiries.
5) Has the Sun raised any doubts over whether a criminal offence took place?
The stepfather told the newspaper on Monday that an unknown police force rejected his criminal complaint several months ago, saying: “I had gone to the police in desperation but they couldn’t do anything as they said it wasn’t illegal.”
The newspaper also now has a line in its stories stating: “A lawyer for the youngster says nothing unlawful or inappropriate happened.”
As the Sun distances itself from a key part of the story, questions hang over what actions it took before publishing
The Sun is facing questions over the reporting that led to the suspension of a well-known male BBC presenter.
On Saturday the tabloid broke the story with a front page article, claiming “a well-known presenter” gave a 20-year-old crack c user “more than £35,000 since they were 17 in return for sordid images”.
The most powerful of the newspaper’s allegations was that the young person was under 18 when they allegedly began selling pictures to the BBC presenter, raising the possibility that a serious criminal offence may have been committed.
Now the Sun is distancing itself from that element of the story, after the person at the centre of the story, now aged 20 and legally an adult, insisted the newspaper’s claims of illegal behaviour were “rubbish”.
These are the questions that remain about the Sun’s reporting:
1) Did the Sun contact the young person before publishing allegations?
The 20-year-old’s lawyer has said the Sun’s story is “rubbish”, alleged they were not approached for comment prior to publication, and insisted they told the Sun last week that the story was wrong.
Despite this, the Sun did not include any denial from the young person in its coverage until Monday night.
Sources in the Sun newsroom suggested the tabloid had been working on the story since at least Wednesday of last week, meaning they had at least 48 hours to approach the young person for their side of the story.
A Sun spokesperson did not return a request for comment on whether the newspaper had made any direct contact with the young person – or whether they had attempted to do so.
2) Did the Sun allege that the BBC presenter broke the law?
The newspaper’s initial reporting alleged the BBC presenter paid a teenager for “sordid images”, starting when the individual was 17.
This would appear to be a direct accusation that the presenter was commissioning child sexual abuse images, a serious criminal act that carries a prison sentence. It was this specific accusation that put the BBC into crisis mode, created a global scandal, and led to the presenter’s suspension.
Sources at the Sun are now distancing themselves from this line and claiming the story was not really about potential criminal activity. Instead, they suggest it was more about concerned parents trying to stop payments to a vulnerable child with a drug habit.
3) Does the Sun have hard evidence to back up its allegations?
The Sun’s reporting is largely based on anonymous interviews with the mother and stepfather of the young person. The newspaper says the mother approached them with the story, did not request a payment, and has signed a sworn legal affidavit that she is telling the truth.
It is unclear whether the Sun has seen the underlying evidence relating to the payments or the explicit material. For instance, the Sun said the stepfather “told the Beeb on 19 May of bank statements detailing huge payments from the star” but it is not clear whether the reporters have seen the bank statements.
A spokesperson from the newspaper emphasised that they were giving a voice to the parents’ allegations without definitively concluding they were correct: “We have reported a story about two very concerned parents who made a complaint to the BBC about the behaviour of a presenter and the welfare of their child. Their complaint was not acted upon by the BBC. We have seen evidence that supports their concerns. It’s now for the BBC to properly investigate.”
4) Is the Sun cooperating with police?
This is also unknown. If the Sun had evidence of a potential crime by a high-profile presenter it might be expected to share its reporting with the police to aid them with their inquiries.
5) Has the Sun raised any doubts over whether a criminal offence took place?
The stepfather told the newspaper on Monday that an unknown police force rejected his criminal complaint several months ago, saying: “I had gone to the police in desperation but they couldn’t do anything as they said it wasn’t illegal.”
The newspaper also now has a line in its stories stating: “A lawyer for the youngster says nothing unlawful or inappropriate happened.”
And here’s a snippet
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OMFG. I've just seen a picture 34554333 times worse than Huw's a on another thread. 
Not Huw. Another loved BBC celeb. None of us saw this one coming
Not Huw. Another loved BBC celeb. None of us saw this one coming
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I bet the BBC were planning a year since the Queen’s death programme and are currently fuming they won’t be able to use that footage. It’s not like they can borrow ITVs either because they messed it up.
He’s locked in his room apparently and won’t speak. This could be a very serious situation for him
I completely agree. She is probably absolutely distraught by what has happened to her family in the past few days, she has done nothing wrong and hasn't asked for any of this attention.
is this the same guy he messaged on LinkedIn with "hello bad boy xxx"?The guy is 35, he’s clearly not complaining but bad boy
I’m the same tbh. But then if something illegal has happened somewhere. I know it’s speculation atm. But if it’s there to be found. Will it be a case of regretful it’s happened or regretful it’s been discovered. No one should be made to feel that way, but if you can’t handle accountability…
Not something I wanted to be right about but did say the parents going to the press could have been a whistleblow-esque moment. But also...
Thanks, you have just reminded me that Anna Botting (no pun) referred to the main suspect as 'a broadcaster', not a presenter. And....and the fella she was with referred to suspect number one as 'a journalist' This was half tennish, during the Great Crash.
Now all the facts are starting to appear - I really think the only “crimes” knowingly committed were the moral ones against his Wife and family by cheating.
Otherwise this is all just a massive homophobic storm with The Sun hoping for Phil 2.0
Otherwise this is all just a massive homophobic storm with The Sun hoping for Phil 2.0
"distance themselves from criminal aspect"
**proceeds to publish one of the biggest stories of the decade in which a guy's own parents freely tell the world that he spends thousands illegally buying crack**
Maybe those are just the ones they can share without being too allegedly damning
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