Anyone on the skinny jab/ pen?

[Lico]

Please tell me you’re not serious?

You lose weight by eating less/differently, and/or moving more to put yourself in a calorie deficit.

Stuff like this may or may not help - but even so, it can’t be good for you and it certainly isn’t sustainable.

Seriously, some people have a food and eating addiction. Some people use food as comfort. If it were as easy as eating less and moving more, sure nobody would be obese. Would you tell a heroin addict to just stop taking heroin? It's not that black and white for some.

 

[Giggling Squid]

Please tell me you’re not serious?

You lose weight by eating less/differently, and/or moving more to put yourself in a calorie deficit.

Stuff like this may or may not help - but even so, it can’t be good for you and it certainly isn’t sustainable.

 

[Laur91]

With all due respect, earlier in the thread I wrote how I was happy with my research and my choice to try this.
Do you not think that as 50 something aged women we are able to learn and make informed choices for ourselves? This is a medication available on the NHS specially for weight management. It’s not a new drug, it’s been around but they realised it has additional benefits a bit like viagra was a heart medication then they realised it helped in other areas.
Your concern is noted, but misplaced here.

Hold on, so people can come on this thread and say how wonderful it is that they’re losing all this weight etc and some people who hadn’t even heard of it are now considering using it because of this thread...

Yet someone with an alternative view or opinion isn’t entitled to share that opinion here as it’s misplaced?

I’m sorry but there *are* reasons to be wary of this, if you Google ‘long term side effects’ of the drug you’ll see everything the poster is talking about. Why is that misplaced to share here?

Surely we are all welcome to share our thoughts and opinions on this public forum? :/

 

[Laur91]

Is this short term or do you have to do it forever?

If it’s short term then how do you manage potential weight gain once the jabs are finished as I’m assuming these won’t change the relationship with food that led to the initial weight gain in
the first place?

OP I obviously don’t know your health background or history but as a nutritionist I do find these kind of solutions similar to ‘fad’ diets. They don’t seem sustainable long term but I am intrigued to see people’s reasons for trying these methods did you feel as though this was a last resort and traditional weight loss methods weren’t working for you anymore?

 

[Randana]

Yes started Oct 2020 15st. Now 12st 12lbs. Still on it. No longer pre diabetic and feeling great. I no longer eat a full plate like before. Same diet/food but smaller amounts. Thumbs up from me

 

[JulieScoobyDoo]

I’m not comfortable with the idea of people taking it who have not given their true weight. It really is only meant to be used for people with a BMI over 30.

 

[Hello1888]

I just want to say thank you to the person who posted about this, and the other people that added sensible balanced reviews. I’ve been silently reading the thread for a few weeks, and decided to go on this - and I really do feel like it’s changing my life in a positive way.

 

[JulieScoobyDoo]

I’m on it. Been taking it since February and I’m three stone down. I know it’s not a long term solution and I know I need to address my unhealthy relationship with food. This is helping though because it’s showing me how large my portions used to be and how much I’d snack or reward myself with food. The weight coming off is the boost I need to keep going. I’ve got another couple of stone to loose and then I’ll stop. I’m hoping then I’ll be better used to smaller portions and won’t want to see my weight going up again.

I did ALOT of research before I started it too so I knew exactly what I was getting into

 

[Giggling Squid]

Seriously, some people have a food and eating addiction. Some people use food as comfort. If it were as easy as eating less and moving more, sure nobody would be obese. Would you tell a heroin addict to just stop taking heroin? It's not that black and white for some.

No. I’d tell them to get professional help.

My sister is a recovered bulimic, I know how life changing getting the right help can be. I’d recommend people address the cause of their relationship with food, not inject themselves with god knows what. The likelihood is that when they stop taking the injections their food issues will still be there... I recommend addressing the cause not the symptoms.

 

[Nikkinoo]

Good luck! Will you keep this thread updated, I’d be interested to follow your journey. Are you doing calorie counting or any kind of dietary monitoring as well or just the jab? I wish they’d make a jab for boredom eating, thats my problem

Thank you and I will let you know. I'll do it weekly so it doesn't get boring unless something untoward or magical happens. In regards calories etc I am HAVING to make myself eat so I am making better choices, so before I would eat no breakfast but now having a high protein/ low fat / low sugar yoghurt with a kiwi fruit or a few strawberries. Lunch I would normally have soup and a sandwich and maybe crisps, today I had a boiled egg some cottage cheese and some spinach. Dinner we have always eaten well, so this evening it's steak and salad. The difference is the amount you can eat, your stomach literally feels full ALL the time. I'm drinking my normal cups of tea with skimmed milk dilute cordial. I have no desire to drink alcohol, they do advise you don't anyway, but for some bizzare reason I've just not wanted to. It's transformed my thought pattern etc. And if I pay £50 - £60 per month on this its FAR less than what I would spend going to slimming world and buying wines and takeaways. It has motivated me like nothing else has for years. Only the beginning of the journey so things could change but for now my mental health and better and I am doing something to aid my physical health WITHOUT it costing our beloved NHS a penny x

 

[Nikkinoo]

Guys this is how happy over 3 stone loss since May looks like. I was at the races Friday and felt fabulous xxx not showing off just want to inspire you all xxx much love

 

[coconut_escape]

Dependency, heart problems, sleeping problems. ED, high blood pressure.

I have read that this one increases the risk of pancreatic cancers

With all due respect, earlier in the thread I wrote how I was happy with my research and my choice to try this.
Do you not think that as 50 something aged women we are able to learn and make informed choices for ourselves? This is a medication available on the NHS specially for weight management. It’s not a new drug, it’s been around but they realised it has additional benefits a bit like viagra was a heart medication then they realised it helped in other areas.
Your concern is noted, but misplaced here.

 

[Nikkinoo]

I’m on it. Been taking it since February and I’m three stone down. I know it’s not a long term solution and I know I need to address my unhealthy relationship with food. This is helping though because it’s showing me how large my portions used to be and how much I’d snack or reward myself with food. The weight coming off is the boost I need to keep going. I’ve got another couple of stone to loose and then I’ll stop. I’m hoping then I’ll be better used to smaller portions and won’t want to see my weight going up again.

I did ALOT of research before I started it too so I knew exactly what I was getting into

Good for you my love, this sounds exactly my plan. I too did research and my sister was on it before me. My biggest issue was wine, I now no longer want to even buy a bottle never mind have a glass. I'm going to keep going for a few months. I am exercising more as well though with more walking. Good luck and keep in touch with your progress !!!

Yes started Oct 2020 15st. Now 12st 12lbs. Still on it. No longer pre diabetic and feeling great. I no longer eat a full plate like before. Same diet/food but smaller amounts. Thumbs up from me

Great stuff

So if 1 pen is £75, how long does this last?

I paid £51

I would do it if it wasn't an injection, maybe a tablet but it does look like it has good results. I would be concerned though that associating eating with constantly feeling sick could lead to an ED.

The nausea with me only last 2 days I'm on day 5 now. The needle is that fine you honestly don't feel a thing

Please tell me you’re not serious?

You lose weight by eating less/differently, and/or moving more to put yourself in a calorie deficit.

Stuff like this may or may not help - but even so, it can’t be good for you and it certainly isn’t sustainable.

Am I asking you for your opinion on my choices?

No. I’d tell them to get professional help.

My sister is a recovered bulimic, I know how life changing getting the right help can be. I’d recommend people address the cause of their relationship with food, not inject themselves with god knows what. The likelihood is that when they stop taking the injections their food issues will still be there... I recommend addressing the cause not the symptoms.

Well I'm pleased you live in an ideal world and are so perfect.

 

[Nikkinoo]

Yes I've had a bit of this . I just take a nexium and it passes

So week 8 weigh in is 2 stone down
I do seem to have plateaued a bit but I did eat out last week a few times so that may be it. Determined to lose much more this week....watch this space

*****UPDATE****** got weighed this morning.....2lb loss , so 30lb in 8 weeks

 

[judgejohndeed]

It really is quite simple, I’ve lost a huge amount myself.

And that’s great for you. I’ve also lost a significant amount myself - that doesn’t mean it’s that simple for everyone. There are all kinds of reasons people might find it difficult to just eat less, vilifying people who find a medical intervention that helps them really makes no sense at all.

 

[bellinibobble]

I don’t want to be a Debbie downer but.. Should you be taking this if you’re not at the recommended BMI?

 

[judgejohndeed]

People will really do anything but eat less and move more lol

They are eating less, that’s literally the point of the jab - controls hunger to aid a calorie deficit. Obviously that is the only way to lose weight. If it was so simple to ‘just’ eat less there wouldn’t be a huge obesity problem.

 

[Nikkinoo]

Thank you and I will let you know. I'll do it weekly so it doesn't get boring unless something untoward or magical happens. In regards calories etc I am HAVING to make myself eat so I am making better choices, so before I would eat no breakfast but now having a high protein/ low fat / low sugar yoghurt with a kiwi fruit or a few strawberries. Lunch I would normally have soup and a sandwich and maybe crisps, today I had a boiled egg some cottage cheese and some spinach. Dinner we have always eaten well, so this evening it's steak and salad. The difference is the amount you can eat, your stomach literally feels full ALL the time. I'm drinking my normal cups of tea with skimmed milk dilute cordial. I have no desire to drink alcohol, they do advise you don't anyway, but for some bizzare reason I've just not wanted to. It's transformed my thought pattern etc. And if I pay £50 - £60 per month on this its FAR less than what I would spend going to slimming world and buying wines and takeaways. It has motivated me like nothing else has for years. Only the beginning of the journey so things could change but for now my mental health and better and I am doing something to aid my physical health WITHOUT it costing our beloved NHS a penny x

Hi everyone, so today is one week on the "skinny jab", saxenda pen. My weigh in this morning I have lost 12lb. The starting dose was 0.6, as stated before I had nausea only slightly in the first couple of days but other than that (to date) no other side effects. I have today increased the dose to 1.2 in line with the recommendations so I'll let you know how I get on this week.......

 

[TheDragonWithAFlagon]

Dependency, heart problems, sleeping problems. ED, high blood pressure.

I have read that this one increases the risk of pancreatic cancers

That would be from amphetamines (now used as ADHD medication). Not Saxenda. The latter is a risk with other diabetic medications as well - which most people with the degree of obesity and comorbidities are likely to end up taking in any case - the potential benefits still outweigh the risk, which is why it has been approved for NHS prescription. There's also an increased risk of pancreatic cancer with fatty infiltration, something also very likely to happen to anybody who is morbidly obese.

It's similar to the risk profile of my treatments for Psoriatic Arthritis. The medication carries an increased risk of some cancers, but then again, so does the inflammatory disease itself, but also carries a high risk of cardiovascular events (ie, dropping dead). On the whole, the improvements to general health are greater with the medication than without, so they're approved for use.


I have no skin in this game right now. But I do feel some irritation towards outright dismissal in favour of 'self discipline' when it's clearly not working for millions of people, as though having some medically approved help isn't good enough and people don't deserve it.

 

[Bitofthebubbly]

People will really do anything but eat less and move more lol

Why even bother to comment if you’ve got nothing useful to say.