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Blueblue123

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Surely people aren’t really categorising the Tate’s behaviour as S&M? 🤯 It’s nothing to do with S&M and practically anyone active in the kink community would hate to be tarred with the same brush as AT, surely?! He’s an absolute monster.
Exactly! A big part of S&M (and other kinks) is the consent.

No trickery, loverboy tactics, or bait and switch.
 
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daydreamer95

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That was weird for his representatives to be saying he may have cancer, found this tweet from the pos himself confirming its not the case



If I find the clip will post it here of Andrew saying he wants a 16 year old virgin bride, there is so many examples of this fetish for young teenagers with both brothers

His first job in a school 20 sacked for having sex with a 16 year old pupil, he gives another example meeting another 16 year old at 21 and now in their 30s they are still talking about teenagers focusing on age of consent laws in different countries Tristan is just as bad

The men around them just laugh like it’s a joke but it clearly isn’t because they meet these teenagers, Tristan brags of taking one of his current girlfriends virginity when she turned 17 how long did he know her before that?



Here Tristan talks about where to find virgins and his secret players diary where he graded different women posting photos of them with blurred face one of the women found out reported it and had it taken down



Tommy Robinson Mr.Anti Groomer knows them why wouldn’t he the worlds a small place Luton smaller he thinks they are good guys no judgement on them targeting teenagers or how they steal money from women they introduce into cam work very strange

Andrew sent Tommy a message saying join Islam be rich af with 4 wives and drive a Lambo that’s how serious he takes the religion

 
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daydreamer95

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There are women who are enabling men in their harm against other women the Ghislaine’s to the Epstein’s

Some women are being forced to go along with it then there are others who are morally bankrupt and sick in the head

Irina/Vivien is potentially a victim turned abuser then you have Dumb Lubna & Dumber Sadia sitting there taking part in creating a positive aura around Andrew Tate in exchange for self promotion connections etc

Another thing from the Tam Khan video is saying those critical of Qatar and Emirates are racist, 2 out of 4 of them at the table are Asian do they know or care how many Asians are currently held as slaves under Kafala passport system

Both Lubna and Sadia think western women have little to no integrity what integrity do they have themselves
 
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Blueblue123

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He’s the Jimmy saville of this era. Big personality and hiding in plain sight.
Jimmy saville at least pretended to have a good side with his charity work (ugh, I feel sick even typing that, feels like I'm defending him/seeing the "good" in him. I know that was his manipulation technique).

But there is nothing likeable about the Tates. They don't even say particularly favourable or uplifting things about men. The only people they care about is themselves, how does that draw you to a person?


'He hit me and it felt like a kiss'

I think s&m is the wrong word. I don't know what you would call it... but some girls love jealousy and power in men. Absolutely love it and it makes them feel special and wanted that the person doesn't want them to go speak to other men or go out without them knowing they are safe. I don't think we should tell women just because you don't personally feel that way that this is wrong. And vice versa I'm sure there are some men that enjoy this too.

Is there a term for this? Because that is what is going on here more so than s&m, its very consensual and very wanted from both parties.

And with the only fans thing, what hot girl isn't doing this nowadays, if they give him some profit for them to be able to work somewhere and help talking to guys then I don't see the issue with that. 'Loverboy technique 'which again I'm sure they do actually enjoy being around a lot of these girls aswell as the work side, they are gorgeous, it's their choice to stay there and the Tates social media hardly hides the fact they are not going to be the only ones in their life, is that worse then the technique go work 10 hour shifts otherwise you cant pay your bills at the end of the month society has. I'm sure these girls can pay their bills just fine and have more free time than you or I.
Then why don't we hear from these women themselves? If it's so consensual and beneficial to the women, then why does Andrew spend his time coaching men on how to get women into this line of work? If it's so consensual, why doesn't Andrew open his discussions up to women and allow them to engage with him?

If it's equally beneficial to the men and women involved, why do we rarely hear from the women?

Anyway, it's nothing new for victims of sexual assault to try and regain power by convincing themselves or others that they somehow agreed to what happened to them. Sometimes it's easier than admitting that you didn't have full control over what happened to your own body.

I'm not saying it's impossible for women who do sex work have full control, but when there's a clear power imbalance we should approach with skepticism.
 
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daydreamer95

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So we know they have a thing for legal teenage girls as young as 15 age of consent in Romania here is Tristian teaching other men how to sleep with a virgin apparently you have to groom them over 3 months and he succeeds 2-3 times a year



When I think it cannot get worse it does I don’t care if they get let out nobody can convince me that these men are not disgusting filthy nasty pieces of shit
 
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barabra cundy

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he always claims some conspiracy against him - the 'Matrix' bullshit

Guilty people often act paranoid and speak of a conspiracy against them - because they KNOW they did a lot of bad shit - that is finally catching up with him.

he is a wrong'un
 
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Blueblue123

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I took myself off Twitter for the past week. I had a really uncomfortable experience on there with a rabid Andrew Tate fan. We were doing a back and forth he was trolling me, nothing bad there, actually happens most days. I was trying to get him to watch the BBC documentary recently put up on iPlayer. He potty mouthed me, again, no bad, it happens on there. Then I said something to him, and he revealed he was actually 12 years old. That’s TWELVE YEARS OLD, I had been cussing out a child. I felt absolutely awful. I thought Twitter was an adult only zone. I’ve been in there for thirteen years, never ever encountered a child before. Looked on his profile, it was all Harry Potter and dragons. I felt like I’d abused him. What the feck was he doing on there, and he’s an American too. Nasty feeling being part of that.
You did nothing wrong. You weren't to know and evidently stopped once you realised he was a child. I thought there was an age limit for twitter but at the very least, let's hope some of what you said broke through. And it couldn't be worse than what he's heard from the Tates.

But this is the problem with the social media age. You've got kids getting unfiltered access to all kinds of information. On the flip side, you never know who's behind a keyboard, only what they portray. And social media has made the usually voiceless feel more important than they are. If it wasn't for social media, the poisonous ideas spread by the Tates likely wouldn't be damaging young minds. But because he's amassed a large following, impressionable people think that means he's smart and needs to be heard.
 
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Blueblue123

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Do you have to stick around? I was recently talking/dating a guy who eventually came out with misogynistic views. I don't know if he followed Tate but during one of our conversations, I challenged his way of thinking.

It was a waste of my time because he was so indoctrinated. Unless you plan to be around for a while, there's little hope.
 
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daydreamer95

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@freaknasty Talking about this is spreading awareness I had no idea about this kind of stuff you had a lucky escape thank you for sharing with us ❤

@freaknasty Try to not feel bad about yourself if you knew then what you know now you wouldn’t have been so quick to make the same decisions you have a lot of self awareness and strength today ❤
 
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Tireesix

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I included the clip of him at 18 targeting students where he works but I can’t find the other clip atm where he says at 21 he was on Facebook looking for hookups

This person says I’m 16 and he goes I don’t give a fuck he meets her and says he sleeps with her

Speaks to pattern of behaviour targeting teenagers that has continued progressing to operating in poorer countries with what he perceives to be lax laws he can exploit he is now mid 30s bragging about fucking 15 / 16 year olds or whatever is legal as he says

*Edit found the aged 21 clip but on Reddit not sure if it’s allowed to post their links here so included screenshot for those who want to find it and hear his own words in context

Even if they get released who can defend this predatory behaviour ?
I have a misogynistic friend (I use the term friend loosely, acquaintance), he doesn't even know that he is so revolting sexist. Anyway, we were gently arguing about Tate, this guy loves him and can't see what the issue is.

I said, 'fine, ignore what he does to women think about the fact that he is preying on and making money from vulnerable young guys'.

His response, 'well it's a brilliant business strategy, you've got to agree he's really intelligent'.

And I guess that's why the Tates have followers, because they can't see past the money and power no matter what the costs and who it hurts.
 
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soymilk

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And when you look closely, these two brothers, although well groomed, well, they aren’t handsome are they. Andrew in particular has a weird head and forehead, bald, slaw jawed and crowded mouth. Tristan just looks like him except for the hair transplant.
crowded mouth 😂😂😂
 
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daydreamer95

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It’s right that his dad spoke to him he has no place to talk to you about money @Kittylover2019

Is telling him not to watch going to change his views? almost certainly not you have to be able to talk about it without getting angry

Andrew Tate is an expert conman you don’t have to be a teenager boy to get taken in by him there are grown men with careers putting their reputations on the line to publicly defend them despite the evidence

If he had tears in his eyes that could be disappointment of not feeling heard, you have to try and understand he believes he is defending somebody that is good and start from there

He is the son of business owners who work hard to make their money you sound like great role models and I’m sure he knows that, this phase will pass try not to worry ❤
 
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Quite graphic stuff reported on the BBC about the trial evidence today, not surprising though is Tate uses sexual violence against women 'to vent his frustration'. I can only imagine who frustrated he is every time he looks in the mirror and sees that head looking back at him, hopefully he is reduced to angry wanks for the forseeable and can't hurt anyone else.
 
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mochibean

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He looks rough lmao.

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He's got a total fan worshipping thing going off. How he's a successful business man, he's rich, all the negative press about him and the issue about him doing illegal things are made up by the corrupt government, he wants to be like him.

He's passed off comments to me these last few weeks about how I'm a kept woman, that I get any money I have off his dad. I don't do anything for money, things of a sexist misogynistic nature ( we have our own business but I'm behind the be scenes) But we are very jokey with each other as a family and don't pull any punches so I just batted it off and his dad set him straight.

When we confronted him earlier he was struggling to hold back the tears when we gave him the consequences if he doesn't stop interacting with anything to do with him, it's frightening. He's extremely intelligent by the be way so I'm shocked AT has got under his skin.
It's terrifying how much this man has been able to radicalise people into this way of thinking.
 
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studmuffin12

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Absolute bullshit, and according to the letter they want him to return to the United Arab Emirates for further testing. I'm sure Romania has hospitals too. Good try though. 😂
Exactly! As IF they would request for him to be returned to the UAE where cancer treatment would have to be paid for privately and its expensive, he's not a citizen. They'd simply give him a referral and send him on his way back to the UK. The name on the diagnosis is also incorrect I think, his official name is 'Emory Andrew Tate'. Have to applaud the effort though.
 
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