I thought the farewell pod was quite interesting when Em talked about wanting to give Arlo more privacy, which is more preferable than being a mumfluencer. But I was baffled when 1) they both said that the podcast wasn't their full time job. What exactly are their jobs then? And 2) they talked about losing money on the studio and tour. How are they so bad at business that they couldn't make money from having so many downloads and listeners? If this wasn't their job and they were losing money, then why did they spend so much on the studio, instead of just speaking on zoom?