Personally I thik only women, children, the elderly and the disabled should be allowed out, the fit young men can stay there. It's always the men that cause the problems. I'd also like to see any woman in the west that chooses to wear the hijab currently to stop wearing it in solidarity to women that don't have that choice.
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This is the most stupid comment I’ve seen on tattle. To stop wearing hijab? I assume you know nothing about Islam. Of course some women are forced to wear hijab, there’s no denying it, but a woman in the west removing her hijab doesn’t prove any point.
Taliban is not Islam, it’s a terrorist organisation.
Hijab when it’s a personal choice is a beautiful thing, and Islam gives women the advice to cover, but forbids someone to force anyone to do anything. Xx
Its reallu upsetting me, those poor people have been let down by everyone the very fact they are fleeing with their lives shows they do my want this. I agree in part that troops from other countries cannot stay there indefinitely but they should have redrew over years to make it easier for the government to retain power.
There going to be no one left in the middle east as no one seems to want this life.
There going to be no one left in the middle east as no one seems to want this life.
I think the Taliban prefer to mandate the wearing of the burqa rather than the hijab/niqab but regardless really don't understand how women in the west removing theirs helps at all? The choice to wear their head covering is a hugely personal one. Your suggestion comes across a bit ignorant.
Watching all those videos at Kabul airport is shocking. To think we have spent 20 years there (I dont care about the narrative of us being there for oil etc) for the men of the country to not step up the minute we leave and let the Taliban take over. Speaks volumes of the nation who give zero tit about their own. I hate that the US/UK get blame for a lot of this when in reality, it's a complete lost cause.
What have the locals done for the past two decades? They have had help from military countries but don't appear to want help themselves. They have been trained up and had billions pumped in to the country and for what? For when it's time to stand on their own two feet they run at the first sign of trouble instead of fighting for their country. I am glad our heroes didn't do the same when the Nazis came after us. And why are women over there having kids? How cruel do you have to be to get pregnant and bring a child in to an unstable and unsafe country?
We have spent 20 YEARS over there. How much time do they need. It's a disgrace to the peaceful members of the Afghan society who haven't been given a chance in hell by their own military, gov
It is. They bascially rolled over and said off you go. I just cant atop thinking of those poor people. Obviously the women and children but the men too. Not all of them have crazy ideas of how society should work. Its just awful.
I fail to see how anything can be considered a beautiful thing when it is used as a form of oppression towards women in other countries, sorry but there is nothing 'beautiful' about that. As for the argument that it won't do anything, no it won't but that isn't the point.
Honestly if you think about it a somewhat peaceful handover is much more preferable. The effects of it are not, but chances are that the Taliban would have probably won anyway and that the war there would have been just as devastating on the people even if the Taliban had lost
Plus people ignore that the Afghan army depends on NATO support and that they have never actually had the chance to work alone without the help of US or anyone else. This is the first time in many years that they’ve had to stand on their own feet completely
Marriage is used to oppress women in many places - does that mean there is nothing good about it either?
If a woman chooses to wear the hijab how on earth is that oppressing her?
Well shows how close minded you are, just because you see it as oppression doesn’t mean it is,majority of the women in western countries choose to wear it as they want to. I’m a muslim who chooses not wear a headscarf, i have many friends who do, we are all free to make our own choices here. You choose not to see it as a beautiful thing, but those muslim women do see it as a beautiful thing.
I just can’t understand why so many people get triggered by the hijab, just because its something they can’t comprehend it automatically means its wrong or People have no choice in the matter.
On the topic of afghanistan, breaks my heart to see whats happening there, i’m so sick of men and their ego’s and the need for power, thats what it essentially comes down to.
Jacinda Ardern is pleading to the Taliban for womens and girls rights to continue work and education. She's coming from a lovely place but how deluded to think the Taliban are going to give a flying one about womens rights
Yes, all seems to be calm and orderly at the airport
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If a woman chooses to wear a hijab, with free choice, full information, free from peer pressure, and with an equal right to stop wearing it should they wish, then to make that choice is empowering, and IMO it is her right to do so.
But there is a world of difference between that and what will happen under the Taliban when women will be FORCED to wear the hijab under pain of extreme sanction and brutal punishment.
Death for apostasy folks. That is the reality of life in a strict theocratic state. Just consider that when you choose you entertainment this evening.
I'm not really sure why you are quoting me, I made it clear those were the only circumstances I agreed with.
The Taliban forcing women to do anything is horrendous, hence why I compared it to marriage - another thing the Taliban intend to weaponize against young girls. The other poster tried to make out that the wearing of the hijab is always oppressive and I was merely stating they were wrong.
From my armchair I feel some of the criticism of the Afghan army is unfair. It's never been a cohesive country, if they knew it was a matter of time before they lost control once their support was withdrawn then maybe it's best to surrender and save bloodshed?
The clips of Biden a few weeks ago have not dated well, he'll need to stick his head out today.
The clips of Biden a few weeks ago have not dated well, he'll need to stick his head out today.
I have seen many videos like this - there are no women, no children, it's (mostly young) men. I don't know if the streets are no longer safe enough for women and children to travel to the airport, nevermind be in that crowd, or if the video gives the wrong impression
This article from The Guardian reads like something from The Handmaid's Tale.
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I agree, it isn’t as easy as saying they should take arms and fight. It is an extremely tribal country, yes there may have being a degree of peace but there is an element of segregation between different groups.
I heard a call on the radio that says the corruption of the last ten years of Afghanistan’s government has meant more people are trusting of the Taliban then of what they see as the American imposed governments, where officials are hugely rich but kids are starving. The corruption has undermined Afghanistan for years. I heard a twitter rumour stating the the president loaded the plane to exile with 5 million dollars. Instance if true,
Why would the Afghan army fight when the corrupt politicians haven't paid them in months, they've been siphoning money into their own accounts.