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R is truly a hero.

I agree if he hadn’t managed to escape and get them help they’d both be dead by now, and the sheer bravery it took to do it again after the way she punished him after his first attempt never mind with the horrific injuries he had, that little boy has so much strength.
 
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jkroche95

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One of the children had to climb out of a window and went to a neighbour door asking for help and food and water they had duct tape around their wrists and ankles that’s when the police was called it’s just been on Fox 13 page
It was R, he had lacerations on his wrists from rope!
 
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SELdnGal

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The photos of Russell’s injury’s is horrific and I wish I hadn’t seen them but I didn’t realise what I was clicking on in the subreddit. I don’t think they would be alive today if it wasn’t for him breaking out either!
I just came here to see if anyone had seen the photos. I don't know why but I had seen so many videos talking about the evidence and they all seemed to show the photos of R with the cling film/duct tape, so I just assumed the photos were more of the same, which is horrific enough. But I wasn't at all prepared for what was in the case files. Those poor, poor children. Utterly horrifying, and they will never have anonymity because of the exposure they had on the youtube channel prior.

I cannot fathom this at all. And I feel that Kevin needs to be held accountable - ignorance is not a defence. As a parent I would absolutely not put up with the other parent withholding the children from me, and I know my husband wouldn't. It is neglectful. The interviews with him are telling in that he thought some of the discipline was justified.

Those poor, poor children. Just horrifying.
 
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account70032

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The youngest two kids R and E always had a lovely bond and even in photos over the years you can really see the bond so although the abuse they’ve been put through is so awful and heartbreaking and they’ll have so much trauma to work through , I hope in time they’ll be able to be there for each other , have a close relationship and have the lives they deserve to have because they both deserve so much happiness.

What worries me is if in the future Kevin or any of the other family members that are trying to justify what Ruby did or still keeping a relationship with her are ever around those kids because all those kids need to be far away from anyone who thinks Ruby deserves forgiveness. These kids need people supporting them and never letting them get hurt and manipulated ever again. I don’t trust Rubys parents or sisters I don’t care how much you love a family member, what Ruby did to those kids is evil and unforgivable. If they want to keep a relationship with Ruby that’s their choice but I hope those kids are kept far away from all of them. Kevin is a terrible father and I hope he’s filled with guilt and shame for the rest of his life. As for Ruby and Jodi they both should of been charged with attempted murder!
 
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Celery16

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I think they’d already bought property and land in an isolated part of Arizona desert. They were planning on making it impossible for the kids to be seen by neighbours again, or escape. Jodi’s house was already cleared out of a lot of stuff when the police got there. It was going to happen soon, and R must have known that and made a last ditch attempt at rescue.
I hope the parole board has access to Ruby’s diaries and all the other filmed evidence.
 
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squacksquack

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Also slightly dubious about the oldest daughter for the same reasons. She lived in the home. I’m not sure I could have left my brothers and sisters knowing what they were going through. Her reports alone would have been enough to spark suspicion, especially with any from the wider family
I don’t think I can blame S for getting out. She’s a victim as well and trauma like that would impact your choices etc. It sounds like she has tried to tell people what went on, not sure whether it was family or the authorities.
 
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KateESJ

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Expecting a 5 year old to put together their own lunch is ridiuculous. And then not bringing them one when they forget? That's just mean. She won't be able to concentrate in class if she's hungry.

Maybe I'm too soft but I'll probably always make my kid their dinner as long as they're in school. 🤷
 
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Rubys talking absolute bullshit … lies lies and more lies
That little boy is the most gentle caring kid ever and his monster mother needs locked up for life her and Jodie are scumbags.

I can’t believe what she’s said about him im so angry 😡
All this shit about how R was watching porn at 3 years old. How? 3 year olds can’t access porn by themselves. In my opinion it’s lies. And even if it isn’t duct taping your children up and starving them is not the way forward. Absolutely disgusting 🤬
 
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prinnygrace

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I saw a video where the oldest girl (don’t know names) goes to say something about her bedroom then corrects herself to say it isn’t her bedroom, it’s a room her mum kindly lets her use. How sad that they don’t even feel like that they have their own room.
 
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OliviaPope

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I wonder if any of her family’s feelings will change now that the full evidence has been released? I have to admit that I was utterly shocked by how bad the wounds were and then the journals were beyond anything I could’ve imagined. It does make me question how much they understood about the severity of it all and whether they will be shocked also.
What’s in the journals I bet it’s just the tip of the iceberg. What was in Rubys journals was the only stuff that they admitted too.

The abuse those kids went through they were completely incontinent and having to wear adult nappies. Shaving the girls head completely.

I thought the only reason that they plead guilty was the real truth of what the kids went through would have been worse than the journals, which were BAD! It’s like the Chris Watts case that the reality of what happened was even worse than you could imagine.
 
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account70032

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This is heartbreaking to listen to that poor child his little voice in the background and him blaming himself saying it’s his fault he’s been tied up and starved he’s clearly been so psychologically abused he was made to think he deserved to be treated like that 💔 I hope him and his little sister will get through all of this trauma and one day be able to have a happy normal life again aswell as his other siblings too and I hope all those kids get the justice they deserve
 
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The neighbour, poor man he was really struggling to comprehend what must have been happening to them. Can't begin to imagine what was going through his mind having to make a phone call like that. R was so brave asking for help.
Hopefully it means he’s not quite as brainwashed by them as feared when the police dispatch wasn’t clear whether he was afraid and had asked for police or was afraid of the police… asking for police hopefully means he knows on some level it’s Jodi and Ruby that are wrong not anything wrong with him.

Poor kid, I don’t know why but I’d assumed the neighbour was female but hearing an older male voice that upset is somehow so much more heartrending, I can’t imagine how bad R must have looked.
 
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lip1

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^ And anyway, it's the parents responsibility and duty to hinder kids to gain access to +18 media. = Her asspulled excuse is only incriminating herself. 😆
 
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Emmapism

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I only found out about this today but isn't it chilling the way she talks about her kids. Sorry but what 6 year old is expected to make their own lunch for school? She just sounds like she resents having kids and doesn't want to be a Mum. Glad it's all been exposed and hope the kids can heal and she's put away for a long time.
 
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Jamhead

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I wonder if they’ll come back. I judge them massively if they don’t!
No way will they come back, this was their lifetime dream, to abandon their family and serve a mission for a fictional character in the sky! As a grandparent, surely you would remain in contact with your daughter just so you could have 'access' to the children and keep a close eye on them.

Julie would've known more than most as Shari has been very present in her life over the past year, babysitting her kids regularly and spending time at her home. Surely Shari had some contact even via a 3rd party with her siblings?

Ruby is disgusting, this is what getting sucked into a cult does to people. I always thought she had too many children too close together and felt she was always on the verge of imploding in the early days of 8 passengers.
Those children will carry the mental scars of this for the rest of their lives, I hope Ruby gets a long sentence and the kids get placed somewhere where they have unconditional love and support.
 
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The 911 call audio is on tiktok and it’s horrible, you can hear how emotional the neighbour is about the state R is in. It does confirm R asked the neighbour to call the police though (early reports were mixed), just what a brave boy he truly was.
The neighbour, poor man he was really struggling to comprehend what must have been happening to them. Can't begin to imagine what was going through his mind having to make a phone call like that. R was so brave asking for help.
 
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boychik0830

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All this shit about how R was watching porn at 3 years old. How? 3 year olds can’t access porn by themselves. In my opinion it’s lies. And even if it isn’t duct taping your children up and starving them is not the way forward. Absolutely disgusting 🤬
She was saying that as payback for him escaping Jodi's house and calling the police on them. It would be sad if r never gets to see his siblings again all because ruby claimed he was watching porn at 3 years old. He wouldn't have access to any porn unless he was exposed to it from his siblings or his parents.
 
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Jamhead

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I wonder what Ruby's 'excuse' will be as to why they were down there, what was her end goal? To starve them to death? If it's true that they're still in hospital then they must've been pretty near deaths door. Children bounce back very quickly and the fact they seemingly haven't speaks volumes. Bless Russell for having the courage to get out of there when he must've had very little energy and been absolutely petrified of the consequences of being caught. I cant even comprehend what he went through and what he witnessed his sister going through 💔
 
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