fwooper

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I flit in and out of watching Sammi but I'm watching her Q&A video and appreciated what she said about her daughter not being for consumption (in response to people asking her why she wasn't posting stuff with Indie). I think we are so used to influencers essentially using their children for content and even to make money, that when someone doesn't showcase their child online people think something is wrong. e.g. here people were assuming that because she wasn't posting pictures with Indie it meant that Jason had her most of the time.

We need way more influencers to speak out about putting children's lives online (who cannot consent). There's some really weird dynamics out there and I think we are gonna see a lot of influencer's kids speaking out when they are older about having all their awkward childhood years distributed to strangers online.
 
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Blueblue123

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I might have this a bit wrong but in a video about indie, didn't Jason say he didn't like indie for the first few months of her life?
He said he didn't feel any connection or love for her in the first few months of her life (58 seconds), which is worse to me.

If he didn't like her, that would be based on her personality which can change and develop - but she was too young to even have one. And a parent's love is supposed to be unconditional.

Here's the video, Indie was 4 months old:



Them getting pregnant was completely the wrong timing.

It seemed to happen around the time the honeymoon phase was ending.

Jason was no longer cooking for Sammi or making grand gestures. He quit his job and was trying to piggyback off of Sammi's online career under the guise of being her business partner.

Sammi didn't want to get pregnant but Jason wanted him to have his "seed". Only for him to feel nothing for the baby when it arrived and leave her to it.

Sammi was left to raise Indie even when Jason was home (which was all the time) and he still wasn't cooking which would have been the bare minimum and taken a load off Sammi.

They also both had their own forms of depression.

There was a lot going on and it was a recipe for disaster, for all three of them.

A part of me commends them for recognising and being honest about it. Parenthood isn't easy. But a lot of it was self inflicted too. On the older gossip sites, we were all saying the circumstances weren't right. But it's easier to see things as an outsider sometimes.
 
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sfts

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Bit random but I just love how Sammi dresses Indie, she always looks so cute but child appropriate unlike some other influencers who try to dress their kids in beige/mini-me outfits
 
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NParker

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They had a very public friendship for many years. A public declaration of support in these circumstances is the appropriate response.
They haven't been friends for years and years, and seem only cordial if that.

Besides all this, Grace is in a coma, how on earth is it helping her for Sam or anyone in fact to post some inane statement with prayer hand emojis on Instagram and Twitter? Supporting her family in private, or being there for Grace when she comes around is far more genuine. It's ridiculously superficial to expect people to make these fake public announcements just for strangers to see.

Anyway, I'll agree to disagree as we're going round in circles.
 
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rosieposie87

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Sorry maybe I’m not being fair here, but if she ever brought up her child to say something kind or loving I would faint with shock lmao. Why can’t it be ‘oh she’s got a surprise day off school so we get to have a fun day together!’

The kid is in full time education and you work from home in a job that I refuse to believe takes more than a couple of hours a day at most, how is this such a big imposition on you lmao.
 

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Bubblegumblades

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Tbh I’d be very surprised if they had full on shared custody with Indie spending equal time living at both parents houses. Sam really seems to have done the majority of caregiving herself, I reckon Jason will be an every other weekend dad in the long run.
He seems like the type who wouldn't want shared custody, but would fight for it to make life difficult for Sammi, and then just shirk on his responsibilities if he actually got it.
 
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palmer

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I’d really like to see a video about running her own business. And what’s she’s doing differently to Novem and Knight
Delegating the entire thing from A to Z lol -- that's what she's doing differently. Her "brand", Sammi Maria Jewelry, is handled entirely by the German jewelry company Stilnest (https://en.stilnest.com/). They make the jewelry + ship everything + do the customer service for her all the way from Germany. The whole thing is really just a disguised long-term collaboration. You can even buy her products on their own website, along with a bunch of other influencers they do the same thing with. Then the company Studio Tissé (https://studiotisse.com/) do all the social media, content creation, brand visuals for her, like they also do for Niomi Smart's skincare brand. Sammi doesn't have to do shit except 'model' for the pictures and decide which city they're going to name the next collection after. She'll never make a video about running a business because she is not in fact running a business. She doesn’t even have a registered company for it—that’s because it’s not an actual business it’s just a collab. She gets a check from Stilnest for whatever she sells and that’s it. Not a real business.
 
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Lemonz

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I find it super sad that she felt like she needed to have a traditional wedding with loads of bridesmaids when she openly admits she doesnt really have many close friends. I mean, Hannah Michalak??
I say this as someone who would have zero bridesmaids for the same reason.
 
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fwooper

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It's a shame Novem and Knight ended up dissolving.. I wonder what really happened. Perhaps Jason wasn't pulling his weight and was too much to handle..
Yeah, I feel like N&K was pretty ahead of the game at the time. I remember when it launched it was one of the first influencer clothing brands that wasn't just a collab with a shitty fast fashion brand like Boohoo, but was actually its own independent brand that was trying to make good quality and ethical clothing. Now loads of influencers are jumping on the sustainability train so that window of novelty has passed. It's a shame they gave up on it because it had potential.
 
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Hasanah123

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Whwn someone says to you as their husband you are my n***er, you fucking run and never look back, she stayed way too long after he called her that
 
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consumerism makes u free

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I hate when Youtubers (in general) who are parents post content like this. She's the parent of a young child. She doesn't just get to decide that content like this won't negatively impact her daughter in any way. (Newsflash Sammi: It will impact your child, whether you choose to ignore it or not).

I know it's not cOoL or sPirItuAl to say, but there have to be boundaries when you're a parent. There's a huge difference between having (private!) healthy discussions about sex with friends and family vs. straight up selling dildos and talking about orgasms online.

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Cuz omg when the kids at school and their parents find out that her mom shilled sex toys or talked about sex as a small part of her influencing career it's gonna be absolutely tragic. Give me a break. It's not about being cool or spiritual, it's about not being oppressively backwards and dark ages in a way that is uniquely horrid to women. Shaming women with children for being public about sexuality is just another way to perpetuate that same shittiness. It's no different than people flipping their judgy moralistic antiquated lids about women who pose nude before or while they have kids cuz omg junior is gonna be so corrupted when he sees what a whore is his mom was and his schoolmates are gonna destroy him.

It's not a woman or a parent's job to repress herself to accommodate other people's bullshit over trifling matters. She's talking about sex and masturbation for God's sake, she's not up there promoting hate and violence... you know, actual shit you should be concerned with instead of a woman enjoying her body. If you attach some kind of shame to shilling sex toys and talking about sex openly or you think a parent shouldn't do that because omg the stigma and blah blah what will other people say, that's you perpetuating a larger societal problem and I wonder why you'd want to do that. Somehow I think Indie is gonna be okay and some kid giving her grief cuz her mom talked about vagina stuff online is gonna be the least of her problems.
 
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Oohthedrama

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Controversial, i also think Jason enjoyed Sami’s struggles with her identity.
I think he’s a racist fuck who probably put her in the box of shame she’s lived her online life in, because she radiates shame, it’s been such a turn off for so long, if anyone even mentions her natural hair her own viewers go IN on them, like it’s a taboo subject, Sam creates that narrative.

I hope the BLM movement has finally made her proud to be herself.
Jason is what I’d call white trash... or trash regardless of his skin.
 
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getawaywithit

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I don't think there's all that much to point to that indicates he's parenting Indie much even now. A few Insta stories don't convince me. Tired of commending men for doing the minimum possible. He pressured Sam to have a baby she wasn't ready for, left her and others to do 95% of the parenting - I think that's pretty undisputed - and then, lol, pressured her for a second kid. All this from a kept man who wasn't working. So no I am not convinced that in the wake of their separation that he's had some major epiphany and changed his ways.
Don‘t forget his ‘panic attack’ while Sam was in labour so the attention could be back on him.
 
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Oohthedrama

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Tbh I’d be very surprised if they had full on shared custody with Indie spending equal time living at both parents houses. Sam really seems to have done the majority of caregiving herself, I reckon Jason will be an every other weekend dad in the long run.
I give him 2 years before he bounces out of her life completely and instead sends a card from “daddy” and an Amazon voucher every Christmas,
which has been arranged by the new side chick of the month.
he seems the type. 😬
 
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Blueblue123

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Well Jason, a lot of us don't understand how someone can go years choosing not to work and rely on their partners income instead but hey 🤷🏾‍♀️

I feel like he's said something negative about people on social media before. It's odd, it's one thing not to want to do it but respect from a distance and another to moan about it. Then again, when isn't he moaning?

Makes you wonder how he managed to have total respect for Sammi if he has such disdain for her "need" to be on social media, especially in the vapid way that she is.
 
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AnonyGoss

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He posts her & she posts this lol Run dude, she ashamed of you.
I think she's just trying to keep her personal life private, which is smart. At least until they're in a serious/ committed relationship. Whereas he's not a public person so I'm sure he doesn't feel the pressure of having his personal life on show.
 
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MurmurCat

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There's just something that tells me that deep down she's really unhappy, behind all the tick tocs, wigs, wine and homeware. It's a sadness she's not hiding very well. If I can see it, others must too.
 
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PocketRLocket

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Just watched it. She's almost like a different person - less giggling, more direct and obviously trying to articulate things more clearly than she has before. It's no surprise that she wants to be vague about things going on with Jason, and as much as we may want to know the details it's much more responsible to keep it private when they have a child to think of, who will soon be at the age where she can access and understand the videos they upload.

I hope that learning more about blackness and identity isn't only coming from reading things online. For me, so much of my identity was affirmed by spending time with more black people (I grew up in a predominantly white area, and moving to a bigger city helped me to embrace my ethnicity and my identity within that more fully), so I hope she is able to connect with black people in her day to day life too. It's pretty nuts it's taken this long, and her talking about her hair is strange because for years people have spoken about her hair and she has people in her life like Tasha and Grace who I'm sure would be willing to have those conversations with her, so her delivering that speech about hiding under Eurocentric hairstyles like it was totally new information felt odd. But whatever, I'm happy for her.

I have to say I think she looked absolutely radiant in this video. Like a weight has lifted, you can see a new life in her, reminded me how beautiful she is. I feel like looking like this she's going to attract a lot of male attention, and I hope she is strong enough to eschew that and continue working on herself.

*edited for spelling.
 
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