Tofino

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Indeed. Brianna Ghey - stabbed to death, after making arrangements with so-called friends to meet in a park.
Unnamed victim, thinking she was going to a roller disco - kicked, punched, and stamped on, and stabbed 14 times by a gang of acquaintances.
"Betts-Ramsey posted a Snapchat story which included footage of the attack, an image of the victim on a ventilator and a number of transphobic slurs, the court heard."
So yes - victim blaming much.
The unnamed victim deceived the man he gave a blow job to. That’s sexual assault. You really don’t help your cause when you don’t allow trans people to ever be criticised for their own actions.

Just to be clear, he didn’t deserve to be stabbed multiple times over it. But it’s possible to condemn two different actions, for different reasons, all at the same time, yes?
 
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Bima6694

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Sadly no chance of that. She’s already done an interview and photo shoot with The Sun. Archive link here. She says she didn’t see Bronson since November because she fell out with his dad. She had the older two children living with her. It’s very very strange and I think more will come out eventually.

I've just read the article and it makes me so angry at the mother. None of it makes sense. Bronson lived with Dad as she have moved into a flat with a high staircase - but no concern for the 3 yr old she kept with her? What? And all about her having his Christmas present wrapped up that she'll never give him. Hows about Christmas Day? It was already like 2 weeks after Christmas?

Also this "I got down there as fast as I could. I was there in ten minutes flat" and "They asked Sarah if she had received any messages from Kenneth, but gave her no indication there was anything to worry about."

So she knew he'd gone AWOL but couldn't be arsed to wander 10 mins down the road to see if her 2 yr old was alright, after weeks???

Weird.
 
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BigBrenda

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Maybe yes. Gosh, imagine doing drugs at Legoland. What the heck?
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I hope the arrest is just a precaution and investigations reveal the child's situation isn't a result of anything the parents have done. That does happen. Mostly, I hope that the baby is OK.
We are at Butlins at the moment and a couple came up to my partner in the queue at Burger King to ask him if he’s got any gear on him!
What annoyed me more at the time was the fact my partner is black and was wearing a track suit as we’d been go karting and needed something to cover arms and legs up and I thought how convenient asking the only black man here! Didn’t see him ask no one else.
Then I thought hold on, who does drugs on a kids holiday? The mum and dad was wired up to the moon 😞.
 
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Posted this on the missing people thread but for people interested in true crime, this case has always bothered me.

Guys, there has been a development in the Asha Degree case. Disappearance of Asha Degree - Wikipedia

Asha was a 9 year old little girl from a happy family who in 2000 seemingly got up independently in the middle of the night, grabbed her backpack and left home. She was spotted in the early hours of the morning by a truck driver who stopped and tried to help her as she was walking down a busy highway in heavy rain and wind. She ran off into the trees and he reported it. Her family discovered her missing at 6:30am (she was seen in bed at 2:30am) and reported her straight away.

Some time later her bag was found buried off the side of a highway. Another time some of her possessions were found in a hut alongside a picture of a mystery girl and some other things. The mystery girl in the photo has never been identified.

On Missing Childrens day the FBI released a tip that said she was potentially seen getting in to an old model green car - like a 70's 80's model.

Last night a farm very close to where Asha went missing was raided, reports are that a body has been found, rumours are abound that it came from a confession. In additional news the Degree family have made a statement on FB seemingly confirming the rumours of the raid and saying it is 'distressing for the family'.

I hope they get the answers that they deserve after 24 years. Asha would be 34.
 
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Ametrine

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This is a phenomenally insightful post

This kind of information should be on the national curriculum
Thanks @popb1tch.

If this is of use to anyone reading, I'd say my experience on apps has taught me the following:

1) Don't meet up with the man the same day you match, and in fact try and delay it for a few days until you get to know them more. Be very careful of anyone trying to get to get you to meet them immediately, that's a red flag and a sign they only want sex or worse - they have a compulsion and need you to fulfil it. A decent man will understand your fears and will want to make sure you're comfortable (but even if he does this, it doesn't mean he's safe - still keep your wits about you and your guard up).

2) Don't give out your phone number if you're not sure, and keep the conversation on the app. I actually had a male friend who was stalked by a girl he met on the app, and now he doesn't give his number out to anyone he meets on an app until after he's met them in person, and he's sure about them.

3) Maintain your boundaries, and don't be afraid to say 'no'. Your boundaries could be anything from not wanting to engage in sexual conversation, to wanting someone who speaks in proper sentences. It doesn't matter what they are, they're your boundaries. If someone is making you feel uncomfortable, screenshot the conversation for evidence and then unmatch them.

4) Don't link your social media accounts to your dating profile. This is so you can't be stalked by people you match with and then reject, or even people you didn't match with, but have tracked you down from seeing your profile on the app.

5) If the man opens with compliments about your appearance and engages in excess flattery and is too charming, be careful. It's often a sign they are trying to manipulate and love-bomb you, or they only care about sex. A decent guy is more likely to speak to you about shared interests or funny anecdotes.

6) Be very suspicious of anyone who seems too good to be true. That can vary according to what you value, but for example if they're good-looking, list a good university on their profile, boast of having a good job, show off about being rich and having a wealthy lifestyle, then be on your guard.

Are all good-looking, educated and wealthy people suspicious? No, of course not. But often devious men on apps will lie about one or more of these things, or will use these things to get what they want. Some of them might be married and are cheating on their wives. Truly successful and decent men are more likely to want to hide their rich lifestyles so they don't attract a gold-digger.

7) If they ask for money, or have an 'exciting investment opportunity' or talk about crypto, report them and unmatch immediately. They're a scammer.

8) Google them and use reverse image search. I was staying in the regions for a few weeks and came across a guy who claimed he was a banker working for a notable US firm, yet he was based in a northern town. I knew that was rubbish as this company only has offices in London. I used google reverse image search and found the pictures had been stolen from an Instagram account.

Googling them could also reveal if they have a criminal background - provided they're given you their real name.

9) Don't drink too much on your first few dates, so you can keep your wits about you. I had a very bad experience once after I was plied with drink on a first date. I did blame myself for being too trusting and for not being more cautious. He knew what he was doing and it was probably a method that he'd deployed several times. Also, always meet in a public place until you trust them. Never meet up at either of your respective homes until you get to know them. Never get into a car driven by them until you know them better too.

10) Always start from a position of slight mistrust. Anyone can claim to be anyone on these apps. It's up to them to convince you otherwise, and this will come with time, and as they provide more information about themselves to you. Do as much research on them as possible - use Google, Facebook, LinkedIn etc. It's rare that someone doesn't have some sort of digital footprint these days. If you have a bad feeling in your gut about them, trust this and pay attention to it.

Edited to add - I don't have kids so am not able to give tips on how to protect yourself and your kids from men on apps. If anyone reading here has experience of this, please add your thoughts.
 
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50sGirl

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I think, in the kindest, most non argumentative way possible, that it's easy to say that if you haven't been badly affected by Covid.

I know people who it has had long term impact for. People who were healthy before. Also, someone in my wider family died. Their existing condition was exacerbated by Covid and it sped everything up to the extent killed them.

I'm glad your mum was OK though (genuinely, not sarcastically in case it reads that way).
Thank you for saying that. 😘
I know it affected me mentally far more than I’d probably like to admit.
I do go out but I don’t like being around lots of people (not that I was very sociable pre-Covid tbh) and even now I get anxious if someone coughs and splutters near me. It’s not because I’m scared of catching anything, I think it’s because it takes me back to a very bad time.
To know that one of the most important people in my life died alone without me being there will haunt me until my last breath. I let him down. I bury the guilt as best I can but when it resurfaces it’s hard.

Perhaps these people who remain “lockdowned” are also dealing with their own demons. 😕
 
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Haveyouanywool

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What a horrific tragedy.
I would like to praise the police, emergency services, hospital staff and members of the public who helped.
Deepest condolences to parents and relatives.
 
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Glittergirlie

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I asked a horsey friend about this as my reaction was the same. She said that the RSPCA had to respond to the complaint. Which they should. But she doesn't think the kick was a problem and is confident any horsey person would think the same. The smacking around the face was a bigger deal.
Should she have lost her job, no.
Should she have got death threats, no.
Should she have got a hefty fine and it all be dealt with super quick and not splashed about everywhere, yes.
Should she still be able to have horses, yes.
As a 'horsey person' myself the kick was a bloody problem! I know no one who has horses thinks this is bloody ok! And smacking and punching it around the face (I also saw the video) is fucking disgusting! Yes she should have got a hefty fine BUT also the poor horse should have been taken off the cruel animal abuser!
 
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whoareyouu

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I cannot understand how all these depraved monsters manage to "slip through the net" and get into positions of power like this. It seems to be an endemic, and that's terrifying. Corruption has always existed but whatever is happening nowadays seems more than "just" corruption.
There were 9 allegations made against this man. NINE and yet he got away with it for nigh on 20 years.

Imagine if they’ve taken the first - or even second -allegation seriously. Imagine all those women who would have been spared this trauma.

It’s not ‘just’ rape either, is it? It’s systematic torture and degradation.

This has made me fucking angry.
 
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TheMiceInTheShed

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This detail is what pushed me over the edge too. They probably felt so grown up doing yoga 😢
Same here.

I can see them my mind's eye, enjoying themselves, giggling, skipping about (little girls skip everywhere) and then this horror just erupts! I wept yesterday, and I'm weeping now. They aren't much more than babies. It's just terrible.
 
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GlitterFluff

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The Mail are reporting that he’s been caught (it is the Mail however …)
I hope reports of him being ‘bundled’ into an ambulance are true and that the evil fucker is alive.

Not much shocks me any more but this case has angered me so much. The fact he tied them all up in their own home and shot them with a fucking crossbow!

He’d better get a whole life order. No playing the diminished responsibility card - if he was of sound enough mind to carry that awful act out on not one, but THREE people, he’s of sound enough mind to face a full trial and languish in a Cat A for the rest of his sorry life.
 
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CandyPink99

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Has anyone been following the Shanquella Robinson case?

A hairstylist from North Carolina. She went to Mexico a month ago with a group of friends, and one of the girls on the trip beat her to death . Their is a video online of her in a hotel room being beaten by the girl while Shanquella is naked, it is horrifying to watch, 5 other friends are there recording it and not intervening. One of the people behind the camera is shouting saying ‘why aren’t you fighting back’ but in a mocking way.

Cabo police initially ruled the death as alcohol poisoning but she actually died from a broken neck and I believe her spine was snapped as well. All the friends stories kept on changing when speaking to her family afterwards. Saying she had drank too much etc. Her family knew something was wrong but Mexico police refused to investigate. It’s been announced today that her death is now a homicide investigation. Twitter is very loud about the case and you can view the video on there. Made me feel so sad to think how much pain she must have been in.
 
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MedeaWho

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Reading that the Grandma tried to separate the puppies fighting and thats when the two parent dogs attacked her, they must hade thought their babies were being hurt so the six puppies now have no parents. The poor 11 year old lad


She said there were two adult dogs in the house and that her mother had previously "raised concerns to the owners about them being dangerous and quite aggressive", adding that there were also six puppies.

She said she believed the puppies had been fighting and that her mother had been told by the dogs' owner to “put a broom in among them, to distract them”. She said: “That’s when she was attacked.”
Honestly I couldn’t care less that the puppies are ‘without parents’. A human being has been torn to shreds!
They should never have been bred. They have dangerous parents and unlicensed breeder. I hope they are humanely disposed of.
Don’t jump all at once but my child was in intensive care following dog attack (dog not known to us). I have very strong views on the topic.
 
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MissTeddy

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Very much just my opinion but my daughter had a dairy allergy that was so severe that just one sip of milk could kill her - then we would not go to coffee shops. Ever. Period. As a family it would be a total nonnegotiable for us.
 
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MyLittlePony25

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Hmmm...



"A healthcare assistant has been jailed for negligence after a patient at a mental health unit took her own life.

Rebecca Welch failed to carry out appropriate observations on the welfare of Amelia Rose at Millbrook Mental Health Unit in Sutton-in-Ashfield.

Welch was tasked with checking the 31-year-old patient at 10-minute intervals from 1pm on 31 January 2020.

CCTV footage revealed that Welch failed to conduct any checks at all before Amelia was found by another member of staff at 1.53pm.

Amelia was transferred to King’s Mill Hospital but died the next day.

It was also discovered during investigations that Welch had falsely recorded observations every 10 minutes in a log.

An inquest held in 2022 found Amelia had most likely died by her own hand but it was not possible to determine her intent.
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This is my worst nightmare as it is part of my role in one of my jobs. If someone is on 10 minute checks, it means they are a relatively high risk. A friend of mine died in a psych ward whilst on 15 minute checks, part of the reason she was not revived is because the person was over 15minutes between checks.

I even do extra checks just to make sure. This person does deserve prison for not doing any checks at all on her allotted time slots. I don’t get why people like this, do the job, it is a tough job but you do it because you care and want to make a difference.
 
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