duskwithoutdawn

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Sorry but fucking hell, they were all essentially forced to publish statements not even 24 hours after he died to satiate the masses and we’re dictating whether his grief was “satisfactory” enough for the performance of public grief when he actually knew the man and clearly had complicated feelings about him? I think some people need to seriously reevaluate why they need to be validated by a celebrity’s expression of grief.
 
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LittlePea

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. And then he was clearly drinking again…It’s shocking that his current gf would leave him alone in Argentina in that situation… but maybe they had argument and she had enough or something.
Sorry but I find these kind of takes so poor, responsibility for someone’s mental health should never be placed at the partners doorstep.

He was clearly off the rails, why should she put herself in danger to look after him?
 
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Mooordgirl

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Might be just me, but Harry's statement read a bit cold and quite detached.
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he's a cold heartless robot.
Fucken hell - hes just gotten the worst kinda of news - the weight of the world was on to issue a statement, and now the statement doesnt meet your expectations? get a grip!
 
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may9289

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The past year whenever I have seen videos of Liam I found it so bizarre because he was nothing like I remembered him. Whenever I see videos and pictures of the other boys although they’re older they still have the same mannerisms and personality etc and it was obvious this was because he was high/intoxicated.

I think since Liam was hospitalised last year he’s been on a greater downhill spiral and I just can’t believe how it has ended, it is beyond tragic. To think everyone regarded him as the sensible one who didn’t drink and this is how his life has ended? He had so so much to live for and I just wish he could’ve overcome his demons :(

I have seen the full pictures of him and in my opinion I had a much worse image in my head… the pictures are very sad but it was almost a relief to see them and not wonder what had become of him. He looked peaceful but also looked nothing like the Liam we all remember.

I feel sick to know that the whole world is able to see photos of him at his most vulnerable point and we watched it all play out unable to help. The video of his dad on the balcony with Paul is absolutely heartbreaking and I really hope that his funeral is invite only, small, private and unpublicised and that he is cremated and his parents have his ashes at home. He deserves some peace away from the public eye finally.
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Also to add I saw an interview clip from a couple years ago where he was asked what he wanted to be remembered for, and ultimately he said he wanted to be remembered for being kind. And that is how I will remember him, even in the months and days leading up to his death when he was clearly struggling so much he was nothing but friendly to fans and he was adored by his friends and family.

Any issues people had with Liam were as a result of his addiction/mental health and I truly believe he would never have caused any harm or upset to people sober/well. The photos from the hotel room of the drugs and the claims of him having 2 escorts with him that day I don’t read as seedy or as a disgusting man as I usually would. I see it as self destructive behaviour and that he didn’t want to be alone. There have been so many stories of what he said and did in the lead up to his death and I don’t know what to believe. Sorry for the longgg posts I just have so many thoughts in my head and no one to speak to about them that would understand from a 1D fan perspective
 
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account70032

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In fairness to Maya when she spoke out about Liam in an interview she had empathy for him and his addiction/mental health struggles she even said herself he’s someone son , brother and father and he needed help but sometimes there’s only so much you can try help someone if they’re not willing to receive that help or put in the hard work to get better or some people feel sp depressed they don’t see a point in getting help. She didn’t have to show him any empathy like that , some people who went through what she did wouldn’t but I respect her for doing that. Maya had every right to speak about what Liam put her through because she was a victim in that abusive relationship and just because Liam was in a very famous boyband it doesn’t mean he has to be put on pedestal like he’s perfect and can do no wrong. Nobody is perfect and Liam did do some unforgivable and bad things he shouldn’t of done but people are also allowed to be upset he’s died , feel sad for him and his family and give their condolences because what’s happened is heartbreaking a young man has died and whether it was suicide or a tragic accident it’s all very sad. I hope he can rest in peace now the poor man wasn’t well mentally for a long time.
 
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I think there needs to be so many questions asked about the speed at which this news travelled. Immorally, when likely his parents and child were informed by a news flash. I wonder if laws could be created about publishing pictures of bodies to prevent this ghoulishness.

I had rationalised it in my head thinking his girlfriend may have witnessed it and called his parents immediately, but now I learn she wasn't even there.

So within an hour there were images of his body on the internet. Someone was live tweeting him going crazy in the lobby and then texted their friend 'hes killed himself' before the news broke. Pictures of the inside of his hotel room were up immediately. The police confirmed his death within hours. Had they even informed his parents? Now the transcript from the 999 call is out.

Its just so grim.
 
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blueeyes135

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The TikTok conspiracy jay-slater detectives lives have begun.
Jesus Christ. Sometimes the answer is simple. Addiction. Fame. Mental health. And a lot of unsavoury allegations. Something tells me worse allegations will be made in the coming weeks. Netherless no one is born bad, he was so young and had plenty of time to sort himself out for himself and his son. May he rest in peace
 
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GrilledCheese

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Sorry but it's so so fucked that the first thing some fans have said is "thank god it wasn't Louis" , "hope this doesnt mean zayns tour is cancelled" , "Zayn is somewhere eating cake celebrating" , "now we'll never have a reunion"

Read the room. A man just died.

You can dislike someone but it's so insensitive to post something like that where his family and friends could come across it. Thats just cruel
 
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Momobeano

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Might be just me, but Harry's statement read a bit cold and quite detached.
I think Harry’s statement can come off as cold and detached due to a few reasons:

1) It wasn’t raw, personal, and intimate like Zayn’s and Louis’ statements. Both Zayn and Louis essentially were talking to Liam, whereas Harry was talking about Liam.

2) It also was polished and edited; Zayn’s and Louis’ statements had grammar errors.

3) Lastly, the overall tone of Harry’s statement is deliberate, polite, and professional, whereas Zayn and Louis took a more casual approach. Zayn and Louis referred to Liam as their brother whereas Harry called him a friend.

I thought Harry’s statement was fine, and it was exactly what I thought he’d put out. Zayn’s statement surprised me in how personal it was. Louis’ statement was raw and intimate and you can feel Louis’ hurt and grief through his statement.
 
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bellbells16

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I feel so sorry for his little boy. I know he didn’t seem to see him very much, so his day to day life probably won’t change much but it’s still a huge life altering thing to go through at that age. I also think 7 is tough because they’re still so young, yet they understand a lot so it’s hard to protect them. It’s sad that he didn’t get the chance to better himself and be there for his child more as he grows up.

I won’t be surprised if more comes out about Liam now. I think there was a lot, lot more going on there with him that was starting to bubble to the surface. I know some people will try the whole be kind thing again but two things can be true at once, it’s sad for someone to die in such circumstances, but doesn’t give them a free pass for their actions in life.
 
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gossipgirlxxo

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Eleanor Calder posted a lovely story, seems that Liam was really there for her in recent years during her breakup with Louis

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Wickedtown

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Their statements are all appropriate to the level of friendship they had with Liam, and that’s all we can ask for.
I still struggle to understand why anyone is asking for anything from any of them..why are public statements from people we don't know irl about a man who died less than 48 hours ago needed? I don't understand why we demand accessibility to celebrities to such an extent that it's considered acceptable to tear them down for choosing the "wrong" photo of their dead friend to post or choosing not to share the full extent of their feelings in an Instagram post.

(Not really directed at the post I quoted - I get what you mean - but it really baffles me!)
 
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Okivia2020

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It’s really sad when people go from having the adoration from people all over the world and they die alone like this :( shows you fame is nothing compared to having meaningful people around you who actually love you. RIP Liam. Thoughts with his loved ones
 
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lime

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I'm not trying to push a "money and fame = happiness" stereotype, but it is a stark reminder than you can be a multimillionaire, good looks, beautiful girlfriend etc and still be completely lost in life. This feels like it was avoidable but he was on a downward spiral for a while.
 
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Rosa34

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Nothing from 5SOS which I find really weird. The 1D tour basically gave them their break when they toured with them. It feels icky to me they haven’t said anything yet.
This information is incredibly hard for people to process, people are understandably devastated. Social media has ruined society that now people think within 24 hours of a person dying people associated with that person are obligated to post. You don’t know how much of an effect this has had on everyone involved at all.
 
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McQ1989

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I actually think it's a good photo on a deeper level - Liam in his happy place performing in front of an audience - and on his own too, putting all the focus on Liam and acknowledging him as an individual which it looks like he always wanted.
 
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Amyx1518

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Liam's sister's post confirms that she (and probably the whole family) found out via social media about his death. How bloody awful is that :(
 
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