Why do people always assume anyone commenting here is a basement dwelling troglodyte with a crumb covered phone? Is it so hard to believe that a professional person sitting in an air conditioned office (for the first time in a year I’ll give you that!) typing from their hideously overpriced iPhone without a crumb in sight, could have an opinion? I see it on other threads too, e.g. YOUR HUSBANDS MUST BE REALLY FAT AND UGLY or YOU MUST ALL BE ON BENEFITS or some equally asinine ‘insult’. I hate to disappoint but the majority of us are just regular people who see through your bullshit.
heretoreaditall2019
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bumblebees19
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What did we all say? Grace your size is not healthy. This is absolutely terrible. I can’t. She hasn’t even met her son yet. Fuck sake...
And all this plus size magic and fat phobia bollocks... and now this...
oh my god Im shaking
I don’t think now is the time for this kind of thing. We’re not doctors. It’s inappropriate.
heretoreaditall2019
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No we’re not her doctors, that’s why we’re not going to diagnose or speculate on timelines. But whilst she’s in a medically induced coma, on a ventilator, likely in ICU we can suggest that things are looking pretty fucking bleak and to have a tiny modicum of respect and not look to dig someone out for their weight until they’re guaranteed to live and spend time with their newborn?!
Im not moderating the thread but fuck me how low are some people’s personal standards
Im not moderating the thread but fuck me how low are some people’s personal standards
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thank you.
thank you.
Gold_7
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I don’t follow this person and I only know a little of her recent illness. A couple of people I follow on Twitter liked her tweet, and that’s how I saw it. The insensitivity is breathtaking.
my husband died of Covid nine weeks ago this evening and seeing a tweet like that actually made me feel physically sick. He didn’t fight hard enough? And all the others who lost their lives as well? Wtaf.
getawaywithit
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I actually think her tweet is so telling in terms of her psychology— like, she truly tells on herself there in a desperate attempt to assuage her ego.
In my opinion, it’s clear from her tweet that deep down, perhaps even subconsciously, she feels a shame over actually getting that sick, and to the point of being in a coma for months. This shame comes from the fact that her identity has been based on a mythology of her physical greatness, her absolute health, her defiance of popular expectation. Yet in the midst of proudly proving what a healthy and normal pregnant woman she is..... she actually becomes the opposite— she is a high risk patient, she catches COVID, and it does such damage to her that she is in the ICU in a coma and unable to be near her newborn baby, causing untold mental and physical trauma to her and her son.
So instead of reckoning with that, she has to publicly declare that in fact the whole thing was even MORE proof of how great, wondrous, defiant and, almost, healthy she truly is and always was! Getting sick isn’t the point, the point is that it is her and especially her that was able to beat the sickness, because that is who she is. The whole thing shows a girl who is desperately clinging to her identity that she needs to feel worthy, somehow. And also it reveals a problem with the HAES mentality, which is— is it okay if you’re not healthy? If you admit that you are sick... is there weakness in that?
In my opinion, it’s clear from her tweet that deep down, perhaps even subconsciously, she feels a shame over actually getting that sick, and to the point of being in a coma for months. This shame comes from the fact that her identity has been based on a mythology of her physical greatness, her absolute health, her defiance of popular expectation. Yet in the midst of proudly proving what a healthy and normal pregnant woman she is..... she actually becomes the opposite— she is a high risk patient, she catches COVID, and it does such damage to her that she is in the ICU in a coma and unable to be near her newborn baby, causing untold mental and physical trauma to her and her son.
So instead of reckoning with that, she has to publicly declare that in fact the whole thing was even MORE proof of how great, wondrous, defiant and, almost, healthy she truly is and always was! Getting sick isn’t the point, the point is that it is her and especially her that was able to beat the sickness, because that is who she is. The whole thing shows a girl who is desperately clinging to her identity that she needs to feel worthy, somehow. And also it reveals a problem with the HAES mentality, which is— is it okay if you’re not healthy? If you admit that you are sick... is there weakness in that?
consumerism makes u free
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No it's not. When she goes out into the world she is treated like a person of color, specifically a black person. The racist systems and individuals of the world aren't auditing her background and favoring her white heritage.
Patmullins1
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I’m all for everyone’s right to make their own decisions re health, but I’ve been nursing in a Covid High Dependancy ward all year and TRUST ME, if anyone took a tour around it during the peaks they would be straight out the door for a vaccine. It was wild. The vaccine is the way out of the nightmare, it’s not even worthy of an argument.
normalishperson
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I kinda wanted to chime in with my perspective on the whole thing, as a plus-size person who got COVID at the exact same time as Grace. I'm also the same age as her and roughly the same size. I don't have any kids or dependents.
Having COVID was terrifying. Not being able to breathe was horrible. Dealing with all of the symptoms whilst also knowing that I was statistically very likely to end up on a ventilator because of my size was even worse. There was a point where my breathing got really bad and I thought shit, this is it.
3 months on, I'm being investigated for heart problems. Prior to getting COVID I was one of those extremely lucky fat people that genuinely had no metabolic issues. Yes, I was fat (still am) and that caused knee problems and put me at higher risk for things, but all of my metabolic shit was pretty perfect. No indicators of any impending illnesses, just a general sense that if I stayed at that size I'd reach that point eventually. And well, now I've got a weird heart. It's not completely fucked, and Doctors are confident that it will get better as time passes, but it's put the fear of God in me.
I had an extremely lucky escape with COVID. I should have been in the same position as Grace, but I wasn't. As soon as I was well enough to start actively trying to lose weight, I did. I've lost over a stone just through changing my eating habits. Hopefully, I'll get the all-clear to join a gym when they reopen. I've struggled with my weight since I was a teenager, and falling into HAES was so easy and validating. But I can't be that person anymore. I can't almost deliberately keep myself at a weight that makes me more likely to die. I can't do that to myself, or my loved ones, and I'm not even a parent yet.
I know COVID affects everyone differently, but I also know that being obese is a proven risk factor. It's also one of the only risk factors that you have complete control over.
This won't be the world's last pandemic, but I want to know that when the next one comes, I got myself out of the high-risk category. I hope that Grace fully appreciates the hard work of the NHS staff and the sheer dumb luck that went into her survival. I hope that she lives a long, full life with her family and baby boy. I hope that she does everything she can so that this never happens again. I hope this has given her a fresh perspective, and that it helps her look after herself. I hope that she sees taking responsibility for her health as the ultimate act of self-care.
Maybe this post was a bit of a ramble, but I wanted to share my story as someone who is a lot like Grace in many ways. I wish her nothing but the best and nothing but good vibes.
Having COVID was terrifying. Not being able to breathe was horrible. Dealing with all of the symptoms whilst also knowing that I was statistically very likely to end up on a ventilator because of my size was even worse. There was a point where my breathing got really bad and I thought shit, this is it.
3 months on, I'm being investigated for heart problems. Prior to getting COVID I was one of those extremely lucky fat people that genuinely had no metabolic issues. Yes, I was fat (still am) and that caused knee problems and put me at higher risk for things, but all of my metabolic shit was pretty perfect. No indicators of any impending illnesses, just a general sense that if I stayed at that size I'd reach that point eventually. And well, now I've got a weird heart. It's not completely fucked, and Doctors are confident that it will get better as time passes, but it's put the fear of God in me.
I had an extremely lucky escape with COVID. I should have been in the same position as Grace, but I wasn't. As soon as I was well enough to start actively trying to lose weight, I did. I've lost over a stone just through changing my eating habits. Hopefully, I'll get the all-clear to join a gym when they reopen. I've struggled with my weight since I was a teenager, and falling into HAES was so easy and validating. But I can't be that person anymore. I can't almost deliberately keep myself at a weight that makes me more likely to die. I can't do that to myself, or my loved ones, and I'm not even a parent yet.
I know COVID affects everyone differently, but I also know that being obese is a proven risk factor. It's also one of the only risk factors that you have complete control over.
This won't be the world's last pandemic, but I want to know that when the next one comes, I got myself out of the high-risk category. I hope that Grace fully appreciates the hard work of the NHS staff and the sheer dumb luck that went into her survival. I hope that she lives a long, full life with her family and baby boy. I hope that she does everything she can so that this never happens again. I hope this has given her a fresh perspective, and that it helps her look after herself. I hope that she sees taking responsibility for her health as the ultimate act of self-care.
Maybe this post was a bit of a ramble, but I wanted to share my story as someone who is a lot like Grace in many ways. I wish her nothing but the best and nothing but good vibes.
That's so weird because I've had both doses of the vaccine and I've not come across any hospital beds?! Maybe they gave me the placebo one instead.
I'm also at more risk of developing blood clots by taking the contraceptive pill but who gives a shit about anything that directly impacts women's health
Edit to add - I completely agree with anyone who has reservations on getting the vaccine due to how quickly it was rolled out, etc. However please let's not throw out false accusations that it is harmful. Covid is harmful as it has clearly affected Grace to the point where she ended up in a coma and who knows the long term effects it will have on her and anyone else infected.
I'm also at more risk of developing blood clots by taking the contraceptive pill but who gives a shit about anything that directly impacts women's health
Edit to add - I completely agree with anyone who has reservations on getting the vaccine due to how quickly it was rolled out, etc. However please let's not throw out false accusations that it is harmful. Covid is harmful as it has clearly affected Grace to the point where she ended up in a coma and who knows the long term effects it will have on her and anyone else infected.
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Devitodorito
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Wow, still an absolute fucking twat then.
No it’s not because you are you. It’s because you lucked out and had endless hardworking doctors and nurses battling to save your Covid spreading fat backside.
No it’s not because you are you. It’s because you lucked out and had endless hardworking doctors and nurses battling to save your Covid spreading fat backside.
Hereforthehottea
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I’m so delighted and relieved Grace woke up and worried every single day about her. It’s wonderful and brilliant that she survived. What a fantastic service the NHS is.
I just think the ‘because I’m me’ is a kick in the face for anyone who didn’t and anyone who lost loved ones.
I just think the ‘because I’m me’ is a kick in the face for anyone who didn’t and anyone who lost loved ones.
Hasanah123
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Sickle cell is no joke. Im very shocked you think they are 'hooked on pain relief' irs a horrible disease and one that a lot of pain relief helps if it even touches the surface
What would you rather them do? Knowing they come in every week you should then perhaps know its having an effect on his mental illness, imagine knowing he has to go in every week for pain meds / relief? Or would you rather they even dont get oxygen as did the poor boy who was was refused oxygen and pain meds, had to call 999 from hosp bed and died
Sometimes have compassion. Not every ill person is going to say please and thanks you's. Sometimes the illness is overwhelming and too much. Knowing this boy comes in every week should make you think he has alsp perhaps had enough. Noone wants that. So instead of insinuating he is hooked on pain meds. Maybe educate yourself on sickle cell and how horrible and painful of a disease it is. It is people with your mindset who let others die because of how they percieve someone with an illness. A little compassion wouldnt harm you. And this is why people die in hospitals.
So sometimes please and thank you is something an ill person can barely say when they live witha chroni illness and are in and out of hospital.
With Grace and others who think hospital staff sre below them and think ill of them then thats a different story and they are idiots.
Also, would you be saying the same if this biy wasnt black? We all know black people are the ones rhat suffer with sickle cell disease. A little compassion wouldnt go amiss. After a boy having oxygen denied because they made their assumptions about him lying about not being able to breathe and in pain, that should have woken you up about this boy you see regularly. Do you speak with him? Have a chat with him knowing you see him on a weekly basis because he needs medical attention? Im sure if he wasnt black you wouldnt be saying the same shit
I honestly can’t believe the number of “I told you so” comments here while this woman is fighting for her life. This is the only site that has so many of these comments, lipstick alley and Instagram are even more positive! This is a new low for Tattle.
Everyone is bringing up her weight but ignoring the fact that multiple slim black women have died or gone into comas in the UK during childbirth due to medical racism, such as doctors and nurses downplaying their pain and calls for help. Let’s not forget that black people are also at more risk of dying from covid. You can blame her suffering for being obese but don’t ignore the other factors that she can’t help.
I have criticised Grace before but have nothing but currently feel nothing worry and hope for her to pull through, I’ve been following her since her early days on YouTube and I pray she can recover for her baby.
Everyone is bringing up her weight but ignoring the fact that multiple slim black women have died or gone into comas in the UK during childbirth due to medical racism, such as doctors and nurses downplaying their pain and calls for help. Let’s not forget that black people are also at more risk of dying from covid. You can blame her suffering for being obese but don’t ignore the other factors that she can’t help.
I have criticised Grace before but have nothing but currently feel nothing worry and hope for her to pull through, I’ve been following her since her early days on YouTube and I pray she can recover for her baby.
Lanavalentine
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Weird, me too?! I’m fully vaccinated and feeling fantastic.That's so weird because I've had both doses of the vaccine and I've not come across any hospital beds?! Maybe they gave me the placebo one instead.
I'm also at more risk of developing blood clots by taking the contraceptive pill but who gives a shit about anything that directly impacts women's health
You’re also actually 8-10 times more at risk of developing blood clots from having Covid as opposed to taking the vaccine, but ya know, some people don’t take well to science and prefer getting their information from Dave in Hull on Facebook who lives in his mum’s basement.
Fattybatty
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I’m massively insulted by her saying she “manifested” this baby. I have been trying for 8 years, the Drs can not figure out why we can’t get pregnant, I talk about being pregnant and a mum ALL the god damn time, I stop in baby aisles, I even add baby items to my basket then delete the whole online cart. I’ve cried and cried that life is being so cruel. I have prayed, I have begged, I have done everything yet still no baby and she has the audacity to say she manifested it.
Maybe I don’t want it enough eh Grace?!
insensitive cow!
Maybe I don’t want it enough eh Grace?!
insensitive cow!
I'm sorry but if this is true and you agree with the sentiment, fu. This is why overweight people are scared of going to the doctor's. People in hospitals shouldn't be looking down on 'fatties'. Honestly fuck off, we're people too