rosieposie94
Well-known member
Make a thread yourself then and fuck off to it...
I'm calling it now - you're a cunt.
sledgehammer
Chatty Member
I’ve been thinking about this quite a bit this evening. If a 5* event rider posted videos of a horse regularly refusing jumps and being kicked, whipped and shouted at as a result, you can guarantee that there would be uproar, and rightly so. If this rider then turned around and said “yes but the horse is capable of jumping that height”, you certainly wouldn’t think much of them.
Oliver Townend got crucified for flogging a tired horse at Badminton and I’m fairly sure nobody would have said that it was ok for him to do that because the horse was treated well at home and was regularly spoilt with treats etc.
Not even thinking about WW now, but as a general thing, why should we stop advocating for the welfare of horses? If it would be frowned upon at the top level, why should we shut up and put up at the lower levels? Of course, you can’t police the actions of everyone at every yard in the land, but if someone is going to post it publicly, made into a vlog-style film to be easily watched by followers, why shouldn’t people be able to speak up and say they dislike the way an animal is being treated?
Mark Todd was absolutely torn to shreds for hitting a horses bum with a branch. Would it have been any different if he’d been booting it in the ribs and screaming? What’s worse on the scale of what’s acceptable and who makes that call?
Im all for warts and all vlogs, but I dislike it when a riders temper or desire to achieve something comes before the welfare of the animal. This evening, a friend actually pointed me in the direction of a recent Harlow vlog, who I don’t generally watch. Harlow’s pony refused a jump twice in the SJ phase of an event. She quietly tried again and he went over third time. He later refused another fence and again, she quietly popped him back over it. No drama and no fuss and she then came on camera to say she had been eliminated due to 3 refusals and was unable to go on to the XC phase. She never once blamed that pony, or lost her rag with him. She simply represented him without fuss. And she is 11 years old.
Horses have no voice, and they actually do an awful lot for us that we have no right to ask of them. As a result, we can, and regularly do, abuse that power. We absolutely should be held accountable for our actions and I believe that people should speak out if they see something that makes them uncomfortable with regards the treatment of any animal. The fragility of a humans mental health should not trump the welfare of the horse.
Oliver Townend got crucified for flogging a tired horse at Badminton and I’m fairly sure nobody would have said that it was ok for him to do that because the horse was treated well at home and was regularly spoilt with treats etc.
Not even thinking about WW now, but as a general thing, why should we stop advocating for the welfare of horses? If it would be frowned upon at the top level, why should we shut up and put up at the lower levels? Of course, you can’t police the actions of everyone at every yard in the land, but if someone is going to post it publicly, made into a vlog-style film to be easily watched by followers, why shouldn’t people be able to speak up and say they dislike the way an animal is being treated?
Mark Todd was absolutely torn to shreds for hitting a horses bum with a branch. Would it have been any different if he’d been booting it in the ribs and screaming? What’s worse on the scale of what’s acceptable and who makes that call?
Im all for warts and all vlogs, but I dislike it when a riders temper or desire to achieve something comes before the welfare of the animal. This evening, a friend actually pointed me in the direction of a recent Harlow vlog, who I don’t generally watch. Harlow’s pony refused a jump twice in the SJ phase of an event. She quietly tried again and he went over third time. He later refused another fence and again, she quietly popped him back over it. No drama and no fuss and she then came on camera to say she had been eliminated due to 3 refusals and was unable to go on to the XC phase. She never once blamed that pony, or lost her rag with him. She simply represented him without fuss. And she is 11 years old.
Horses have no voice, and they actually do an awful lot for us that we have no right to ask of them. As a result, we can, and regularly do, abuse that power. We absolutely should be held accountable for our actions and I believe that people should speak out if they see something that makes them uncomfortable with regards the treatment of any animal. The fragility of a humans mental health should not trump the welfare of the horse.
Wtf... Emma did not cheat on Ben Hobday. She nursed him through cancer and repaid her by shagging their grooms. Multiple young women. Then he didn't even face up to it - he did a moonlight flit to Yorkshire to one of the Whitaker's yards taking with him horses and equipment and even dismantled their horse walker and took it with him! Emma woke up to this and he didn't even have the courtesy to speak to her, he will only communicate through lawyers. To rub salt in the wound, he is still trying to get half of HER family farm/yard which her parents gifted them when they got married. Emma and her family are the loveliest people. Ben is a dick.
Blond3g1rl
VIP Member
Piss off
Well unless the sellers changed its microchip, passport and breeding then no! It was stated that the new horse was tbxconnie, whereas that one is by a Holstein. Also, the ‘Irish dealer’ comment is just unnecessary. Bad practise is bad practise and has nothing whatsoever to do with a nationality. I’m not even Irish and get so cross with comments like that. Furthermore, apart from the colour there is nothing similar between the two! Sorry, that is just false accusation
Alfie1234
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Im afraid I’m the opposite, nothing more annoying than people asking about puppies and being told to adopt. IMO adopting isn’t straightforward and it’s not for everyone, the important thing is that whether you adopt or buy that you do it responsibly and with great thought after researching your breeds. Too many people adopt because they feel they have to and the poor dog ends up going back time and time again. Then there’s how difficult it is to actually adopt a dog ….Wanted to reply to nohorsehans story about anyone known of any puppies for her Dad and say why not consider a rescue dog? Does my head in how people always want puppies when there's so many other dogs needing homes!
I saw that Shelley is sending Pea away for rebacking to then put her up for sale. Good decision I think, and good to be so open about it when a horse is too much for you. Wonder if she'll get another one or just concentrate on Molly
And is RWC wearing her riding hat for skiing?!
Easypeeler
Well-known member
Thanks @LincsLady22 for the thread title.
LOTLR has emotional response to anything and everything and we have seen dramatics over mudfever and rambling stories from Mummy but maybe a shake up with a new horse to play with.
Emd is married and can keep her channel handle as the surnames starts the same... What other reason to marry someone! Despite her best efforts, Addie is looking less green and more sullen, it's clear why Sprite is the forever darling.
Meg had a busy old time of it now groundhog Day at a very successful Badminton Grassroots has been and gone, she doesn't want a warmblood, a warmblood cross or a horse that's been "over produced" she wants a bargain ISH.... cos she has all of the above sat at home in fields, definitely not being over produced.
RWC still continues to horrify with her vlogs editing only including the considered good bits of Vossi so strapped tightly in and bucking when allowed an inch that god knows what the outtakes look like.
RTG has a terrifyingly fat Pepper but she's constantly told how gorgeous that fat wobbly cresty neck is by 12year olds allowed on their parents instas who know no better.
Not-so-Wimpy is been riding... Sorry "nursing" a lame horse for THREE YEARS, and now he's so lame he couldn't perform a dressage test, she's finally decided to call the vet in, in a teeth sucking moment of this will eat into my £2k budget for a new BE100 Eventer.
Mummy Munchausens has been sharing yet more private and personal information regarding poor Frankie's medical history and claiming even her dog is a qualified Doctor and Horsewhisperer rolled into one, quite the remarkable talent in that family they must all be drinking the same (salt) water supplied by mummy.
Many more accounts I'm sure you can add, quite frankly all a great example in their own ways of #howNOTtobeanequestrian
LOTLR has emotional response to anything and everything and we have seen dramatics over mudfever and rambling stories from Mummy but maybe a shake up with a new horse to play with.
Emd is married and can keep her channel handle as the surnames starts the same... What other reason to marry someone! Despite her best efforts, Addie is looking less green and more sullen, it's clear why Sprite is the forever darling.
Meg had a busy old time of it now groundhog Day at a very successful Badminton Grassroots has been and gone, she doesn't want a warmblood, a warmblood cross or a horse that's been "over produced" she wants a bargain ISH.... cos she has all of the above sat at home in fields, definitely not being over produced.
RWC still continues to horrify with her vlogs editing only including the considered good bits of Vossi so strapped tightly in and bucking when allowed an inch that god knows what the outtakes look like.
RTG has a terrifyingly fat Pepper but she's constantly told how gorgeous that fat wobbly cresty neck is by 12year olds allowed on their parents instas who know no better.
Not-so-Wimpy is been riding... Sorry "nursing" a lame horse for THREE YEARS, and now he's so lame he couldn't perform a dressage test, she's finally decided to call the vet in, in a teeth sucking moment of this will eat into my £2k budget for a new BE100 Eventer.
Mummy Munchausens has been sharing yet more private and personal information regarding poor Frankie's medical history and claiming even her dog is a qualified Doctor and Horsewhisperer rolled into one, quite the remarkable talent in that family they must all be drinking the same (salt) water supplied by mummy.
Many more accounts I'm sure you can add, quite frankly all a great example in their own ways of #howNOTtobeanequestrian
borderterrier
Active member
It does make me laugh how a few days ago you were all saying how bad Meg was at riding horses and now you're all saying how good she was with Vossi.
Think it just proves some riders just click with some horses, and not click with others. Which I think could sum up a lot of these overhorsed content creators.
Think it just proves some riders just click with some horses, and not click with others. Which I think could sum up a lot of these overhorsed content creators.
What the fuck?! People like you are the reason people have eating disorders. Meg is a perfectly healthy weight.Meg Elphick has put some pounds on hasn’t she?!
Just watched Tina’s 2nd vlog, far out it’s all her face and talking and not much else
horsey1234
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To be fair, I think if a 5* rider got on all of our horses they would go better for them than they do for us…Watching Tina’s reels from that trainer riding Banksy whilst she is away, and the reels of him jumping each time he looks incredible and does not chip in once, it must be the way Tina rides him
sledgehammer
Chatty Member
I’m confused as to why she is so upset. If she is absolutely sure that her actions in her vlogs are fine, then surely she is confident enough that people will see it and make up their own minds that there’s nothing there to worry about?
Why is she so bothered about the opinion of a few randoms on an internet forum who will never have anything to do with her life?
She has a decent number of followers, so I’m guessing that most of those people enjoy what they see and think it’s fine. I personally don’t, but I’m not going to have any impact on her life. Im several decades older than her, I live nowhere near her, I would never message her or troll her, or report her or anything like that. I simply find her behaviour questionable at times.
I’d like to think that nobody on here would do any of the above either, so really we mean nothing.
A little story- when I was a teenager, i lost my rag with a pony that refused a fence in a competition. I hit it twice out of temper with the whip. When I came out the ring, a woman I know pulled me and told me that what I had done was unacceptable. In my stroppy and defensive teenage way, I muttered something and walked off. I slagged this woman off for days. The reality was, I had acted out of temper and she was absolutely right. I can look back now at that and see that I let my emotions and desire to be successful, overrule the welfare of the animal and as a result, I behaved cruelly in that moment. I loved that pony, spoilt it rotten and was not cruel to it in everyday life, but at that moment, i was.
Nobody is perfect and we all let our emotions rule us from time to time. Provided you can put your hands up and say “I got it wrong and I will do better from now on” then that’s all we can do.
Why is she so bothered about the opinion of a few randoms on an internet forum who will never have anything to do with her life?
She has a decent number of followers, so I’m guessing that most of those people enjoy what they see and think it’s fine. I personally don’t, but I’m not going to have any impact on her life. Im several decades older than her, I live nowhere near her, I would never message her or troll her, or report her or anything like that. I simply find her behaviour questionable at times.
I’d like to think that nobody on here would do any of the above either, so really we mean nothing.
A little story- when I was a teenager, i lost my rag with a pony that refused a fence in a competition. I hit it twice out of temper with the whip. When I came out the ring, a woman I know pulled me and told me that what I had done was unacceptable. In my stroppy and defensive teenage way, I muttered something and walked off. I slagged this woman off for days. The reality was, I had acted out of temper and she was absolutely right. I can look back now at that and see that I let my emotions and desire to be successful, overrule the welfare of the animal and as a result, I behaved cruelly in that moment. I loved that pony, spoilt it rotten and was not cruel to it in everyday life, but at that moment, i was.
Nobody is perfect and we all let our emotions rule us from time to time. Provided you can put your hands up and say “I got it wrong and I will do better from now on” then that’s all we can do.
sledgehammer
Chatty Member
She obviously felt it wasn’t in the best interests of the horse to carry on. Thats a sensible decision that may well have saved a tired or not quite engaged animal from falling. She should be congratulated for that, not pulled apart.
equineever
Member
So in the space of one day we have 2 people criticised for not getting their horses X-rayed. And now we have one vigilant owner doing them as a precaution and they are criticised as wellI find her emotional vlogs difficult to watch - I have no problem whatsoever with vlogs on a negative or difficult subject (real life drama etc.) but when she gets so emotional on screen, it's very difficult to watch. Tempted to use the word 'triggering' here
There are ways and means of presenting difficult scenarios without letting your emotions totally get the better of you. Not that she should be emotionless, but there were a fair few vlogs recently where she was really quite confident in discussing difficult things in a more matter of fact way, without the tears or the excessive drama, and I thoroughly enjoyed watching them and felt compassion etc.
With the tears, I just have to switch off.
It's a shame Banks got mud fever. I didn't understand the random x-ray of his hock on her stories, but happy to read here that he's fine.
But yeah, of all the very many things that could have caused Tina not to go to Badminton, I'd reckon mud fever was not even on that list!!!
these influencers, though not without fault, can do no right sometimessledgehammer
Chatty Member
When I’m on my death bed, I’d be devastated if a loved family member gave up the chance to have a holiday just so they could sit and wait for my inevitable demise.
Please let’s not berate the girl for taking a break at a difficult time. Life goes on and she’s been doing her fair share of caring for this relative. Perhaps he wasn’t expected to pass away so soon? Perhaps he went downhill while she was away? Or perhaps she said her goodbyes before she went so she didn’t have to be present for the inevitable. Grief and how to deal with a loved one when they dying is a very personal thing.
Please let’s not berate the girl for taking a break at a difficult time. Life goes on and she’s been doing her fair share of caring for this relative. Perhaps he wasn’t expected to pass away so soon? Perhaps he went downhill while she was away? Or perhaps she said her goodbyes before she went so she didn’t have to be present for the inevitable. Grief and how to deal with a loved one when they dying is a very personal thing.