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I do actually like Em and Alex but listening to their latest pod has really pissed me off. They’re discussing Tattle and its ‘downfall’ for part of it and I had to skip through most of it because they were chatting utter shit.

I know people have been a little mean on here sometimes and that’s perfectly within anyone’s rights, what people say about me is none of my business etc etc. However, Emily said she hadn’t read here for a long time but gets someone to monitor this thread to see if we’re posting pictures of her children’s faces or being mean about them. FFS! Tattle may be many things but we’re all about the child safeguarding on here and slate people for exploiting their kids online, most if not all applaud her for keeping her girls private as it should be. If a kid gets posted on any thread on this site (to make a point or whatever) then their face is blanked out.

It pisses me off that we’re the scum of the earth when in reality we’re sick of kids being pimped out so their lazy bastard parents (not talking about Em or Alex here because they, quite rightly, don’t do this) don’t have to get a job.

So, to Em’s thread monitor, please report back that there has never and never will be any kid slating or pictures in here, just calling influencers out on their shit when needs be. Cheers

There’s something just so self indulgent about every aspect of Em Clarkson’s Instagram.

Em Clarkson has been born into wealth and influence. Her dad is famous with connections in the media world. Despite having zero qualifications or experience, she had two (poorly written, clichéd) books released in 2017 at the age of 23. That is insane. Many more talented, innovative and hard working people never get that sort of break. Em would have you believe that it’s all down to her personal attributes, but it’s not.

not only that, but she enjoys the privilege of being white and conventionally slim. She’s never been overweight for all her body positivity guff. She’s never endured long spells of ill health or mental health. Even if she did, her wealth would act as a huge buffer to that. She’s enjoyed the privilege of being in a stable relationship with a similarly privileged white male (and for those who are female and have had to experience long spells of being single - the world is not easy as a single female. We are constantly made to question our worth and value ourselves based on how men value us).

despite having almost everything literally handed to her - she’s never had to seriously tackle any health issues, any extreme weight or dietary issues, she’s never had to date. She’s never had to crawl her way up the ladder as a female in a male dominated work space. She’s never had to endure job interview after job interview and know she’s being overlooked because she wasn’t posh/white/male enough. She’s never had to struggle by in a rental property on minimal wage. And yeto despite having no experience in any of this, she hasn’t even studied it objectively - she sure has a lot of opinions on it all.

truth is, Em is boring AF. Life has been one big gift for her and good for her. But what irritates me is that she has zero humility about it and uses her privilege to position herself at the forefront of issues she has zero understand of. She has to post about her “crippling insecurity” because she has nothing else interesting to say and she knows it will strike a cord. Even at her heaviest Em was acceptably slim.
i don’t want to disparage the fact that it’s hard being insecure about our bodies as women, and we are subject to scrutiny in a way men aren’t.

but geez… it’s all so boring, overdone and not especially effective when you’re slim the way Em
Is.

She isn’t keeping her baby private though? Her name and birth were publicly announced.

she is holding her baby whilst advertising an air fryer - why? Because being a domesticated mum is part of her brand now, and she needs a baby as a prop to make an effective ad. “I’m a new mum guys, look how easy and convenient this air fryer is #ad” and she’s making a joke referencing her baby’s birth.

the baby has been in several posts, stories and reels.

I’m genuinely confused as to how this can be interpreted as protecting her baby’s privacy? Arlo is literally a few weeks old and is already in an ad with her mum…?

in my world, privacy is not being put online at all, not having your name released, not being used as a prop for content. Pixie Geldof is more famous than Em Clarkson, and never features her daughter on her social media. Her birth and name have never been released. To me - that’s an example of privacy being protected.

are we so overexposed to celeb and influencer culture that we’ve lost sight of what true privacy actually is?

I honestly think it’s pretty toxic to follow Em. Especially if you are post partum.

She’s ridiculously out of touch. Her unearned privileges aren’t reality for the 99%. Bringing her baby “back to work” when working is sitting and chewing the fat with some mates for a “podcast” just isn’t the norm, feasible or realistic for the vast majority of women. And in her efforts to present herself as some boss babe, it’s easy to forget that.

It’s fantastic Em has the time, money and support network to facilitate her going to her reformers Pilates, massages, coffee dates. But again, most new mothers don’t have the time or money or support to do all this. I’d argue that Em’s time would be better spent shedding light on that fact, but hey, that’s not Em’s purpose in life.

Em Clarkson was born into generational wealth. It’s why she has her big London townhouse. It’s why she’s never had a real career. Her husband - in his media career - is also benefitting from that generational wealth.

For all intents and purposes, Em is a wealthy SAHM with a few side projects (insta, podcast etc) that give her a sense of productivity without demanding too much from her, intellectually, financially or otherwise.

I’d love to see Em tackle the real reasons women struggle PP. lack of support and resources mainly. If only the well off embraced their responsibilities and instead of hoarding wealth and finding loopholes, paid their tax liabilities to fully fund initiatives to help new mothers. Yano, like a certain Mr Clarkson. In my area alone, local mother/baby groups have been shut down because of lack of funding and resources. But you won’t see Em go near a topic like that.

Taking advice on what is good for you, from the likes of Em Clarkson, is a recipe for disaster. Because Em simply doesn’t have a clue. Nor will she ever.

cee-bee said:

slightly off topic but…

the world of influencing is dominated by privileged, (predominately white) wealthy people. For a myriad of reasons I suspect, but the fact the media is dominated by the same demographic is one factor. Societal snobbery is another. We prefer to listen to middle class people with home county accents as the standard for voices of authority and intelligence.

there are a few exceptions perhaps; the likes of Mrs Hinch. Mrs Hinch is from a fairly working class/lower middle class background. And she definitely has experience in body/weight issues. I’m not a fan by any stretch but she is a rarer example of someone who has become a successful influencer and has had a working class background. But the serious body positivity stuff etc. isn’t an issue she really (to my knowledge) has waded in to much or led from the front. She mostly sticks to her interiors and fairly superficial stuff. And my personal belief is that it’s because 1. She just doesn’t have the confidence to do it as someone who has genuinely struggled with it and 2. Her voice (and others like hers) are drowned out by the likes of Em, Alex, Danae. And perhaps 3. Are we, as a society - prepared to seriously listen to Mrs Hinch and others like her? Are we prepared to take regional accents seriously? Are we prepared to critically assess someone’s credentials as opposed to how well they present themselves? The ugly truth is I think as a whole - we aren’t. But maybe we should be.

The more confident, self assured, middle class who have grown up watching their peers receive accolades publicly and their voices being amplified in the way the working class/ethnic minorities haven’t, don’t struggle the same way and they benefit from the knowledge they’ll be taken seriously. Em can open her insta account and talk about serous issues because she comes from a privileged background and it’s always been that way for her.

which is just one reason why the likes of Em irritates me so much. She drowns out the voices of other people; people with lived experiences, people who are better informed, but less well connected. Less listened to. Less confident.

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I couldn’t read and not reply to this…

Mrs Hinch doesn’t have the same privilege as Clarkson in terms of a famous dad, but she’s certainly not an accidental influencer. The whole thing was meticulously planned. She and her husband were both in sales, she tried a few different types of account at the start, and they actively approached Gleam. The person she shows on her insta is a character she plays.

Her body image issues are so sad, frankly it’s terrifying, and she’s an awful awful role model for young women. She edits her body, alters every single part of her, even when advertising make up and clothes. It’s dangerous and she’s never called out on it because she portrays this ‘accidentally famous, don’t know how it happened to little old me, still learning this world’ image.

Sorry to derail. But there aren’t over 500 Hinch threads for no reason.

MotherInferior43 said:

They’ve got a point! She (and other influencers) always have to overthink various issues and have an opinion on topics that they don’t need to, when did we all this start and become a thing??

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iTs mY WoRk

no it’s not Em. You’re not an activist. You’re not a spokesperson for anything. You’re a sales person. You just use causes to make your sales. Because people are more likely to buy from people they think are morally aligned with them. More likely to trust them.

You sell Symprove, Huel, erborian, Beautypie etc etc and anything else if the money is right.

you convince yourself it’s noble so you don’t have to examine the lack of originality or purpose in what you do.

you sit and cry in your nice big London house you’re able to own because of rich parents, and feel unsatisfied because most of it is unearned wealth, and your job is inherently dishonest. And you decide that posting your medical history, acne flare ups, “underwhelming” days and tears somehow compensate. Because apparently that’s all that honesty means to you.

it’s deluded thinking. She’s deluded. And she’ll stay deluded because she’s surrounded by wealth that shields her from reality.

Oh my goodness the amount of people that do not know the connection between Em & Jeremy completely blows my mind! How else do you think she’s got a platform? She’s a boring, entitled and a bit of a pleb. She’s a nepo baby!

Actually you know what I just saw this and it's pissed me right off. Fuck off. Every single person you argued with had more intellectual arguments than what you're giving credit for. You just know there's minimal logic behind your argument so you have to be petty about it.

Edit: Want to add that everyone she's disagreeing with are legitimate followers of hers. It's not like the IG algorithm has blasted her on the wrong side of IG where all the mysogynistic, shitty men are. Like these are people that up until now have been fully with her. Surely that should make her question herself.

There have been so many really thought provoking, insightful comments under the Nelly post. All Alex and Em have done is invalidate them because they don’t align with their shallow, faux-feminist, uneducated drivel.

the underwear, as someone pointed out, caters to the male gaze.

The sphere of body inclusivity and positivity has been co-opened by largely white, middle class women with bodies that are acceptably attractive. nelly still has a slim, attractive figure.

Nelly walking around London isn’t appropriate for that reason. It isn’t empowering because she’s only able to do it because her body and her lingerie cater to the male gaze and ultimately, misogynistic ideals.

there’s nothing wrong with wanting your children to not have to see a woman’s body if it’s being sexualised. In fact I’d argue it’s healthier for children to be protected from sexualised female bodies since women’s bodies are overly sexualised and I wouldn’t want my child to internalise that view. When a woman’s body is dressed in lingerie, it is ultimately being sexualised for the male gaze.

em’s recent post in a bikini, making a jab at women wanting to protect children from sexualised female bodies, doesn’t make sense. Because bikinis aren’t sexualised in the same context that lingerie is. The whole concept of that type of underwear is that it’s sexual and to be worn as part of sex.

if Alex, Em or Nelly had a brain cell between them, they could maybe understand that. Could maybe begin to question how the beliefs they are parroting, are perhaps byproducts of a patriarchal society.

but since the trio are utter idiots They aren’t capable and resort to what amounts to bullying and name calling their own following.
The worst part is? They don’t care. Because the arguements they are embroiling themselves in, amount to engagement and all Em cares about is money. As per her rant earlier in the year because people dared to report her.

no wonder people kept reporting her. She is toxic AF and an entitled bully.

Yeh, covering a kids face or not photographing it, isn’t really very private is it? It’s paying lip service to it, to sleep better at night I imagine.

It’s especially feeble if baby’s whole life is online from a few weeks old. The details of their birth, their clothes, the trips they are taken on, if they are premature or not, health problems and milestones, their name and date of birth.

i remember going to a lecture on open source investigation. Law enforcement and bad actors only need two bits of biodata about you to be able to build from that. Name and date of birth included. Arlo’s full name and date of birth have been published online to an audience of thousands, when she was just a few days old.

At a minimum, Arlo has already featured in eight of Em’s grid posts - including one advert for an air fryer and one promo post for her podcast. That doesn’t count the stories she may have been featured in. That doesn’t factor in any posts her father has made featuring her. The baby is ~8 weeks old. That’s one post per week of her little life. She’s featuring in adverts before she is capable of conscious thought.

of course, she was being monetised before she was even born. Em has made posts about her pregnancy and about motherhood. Arguably this is about Em, but let’s not pretend it’s wholly disconnected.

and let’s not pretend Em is above monetising her child. Em will 100% post “funny” stories about things Arlo says or does. Arlo will 100% continue to feature heavily on Em’s gram, will be used as part of Em’s branding and to appeal to wider audiences. Em will 100% leverage being a mother to a daughter to promote herself further as some sort of feminist saviour (even though many of her views on feminism are problematic and shallow).

Will she feature Arlo’s face? Maybe not. But it doesn’t make a huge difference, does it? You don’t need to have your face splashed online to have your identity completely co-opted and monetised. If every other little detail is published online, her facial details are inconsequential really.

From a glance at Em’s account, I immediately know her daughters name and date of birth. I know what that child has been wearing, and where her parents have been taking her on trips out (Ground by Coco can be clearly seen on a coffee cup, so looks like they were in Chelsea that day). Chelsea bridge features in another post quite clearly in the background, so I know the baby is taken to Chelsea fairly regularly which - without knowing much else about Em - would suggest she lives in South London. Em had to do the obligatory breast feeding pic obvs, so I know Arlo is breast fed. Em has posted from her home too recently, so a quick glance at the last couple of posts and I can get a fair idea of what arlo’s home looks like. Again, this child is 8 weeks old and already a ton of info about her life is freely available on social media.

so for the posters who said they respect how Em is protecting her daughters privacy, I am genuinely interested in how you’ve reached that viewpoint? Because to me this baby has been plastered all over the internet without a thought for her privacy at all, within days of her birth. I just can’t get my head around the view that she is being protected with clear boundaries at all.

and imo it’s really shitty. It’s a sign of shitty parenting. It’s a sign of a talentless woman who has little of value to offer social media in terms of creativity or thoughtful output, and so needs to utilise her child for her own means.

Em and her ilk are compelled to share every aspect of their lives and their children’s lives because that’s the core base of their appeal - making themselves accessible and building that relationship with their following. That’s the trade off. I expose every detail of my life but I get to use that attention you give me, to sell stuff to you.
It’s bad enough when an influencer does it themselves, but it’s reprehensible when they include exposing their child as part of building that relationship with their following. Many, many
Academic journals and news articles have flagged children being exposed for content (and the impact and lack of safeguarding) as a key concern. This isn’t just a few harmless pictures online. This has real, long term impacts. Social media is relatively young, so we won’t know the full impact of how having a childhood posted online, will affect these kids in adulthood.

it’s unethical, it’s immoral, it’s selfish and it’s 100% happening to Arlo

bellinibobble said:

I generally like her but can’t help but think she is going to go insane as it seems at least one of her followers is going to disagree/take umbrage with even the smallest silly thing she posts about. I don’t know how you could live a happy life having to constantly apologise to people or defend or clarify your every move. And also when she had Covid and people were on at her about not being able to have her operation.. why would people do that I feel bad for her.

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Came here from Niomi Smart's thread as Em waded in on Niomi's insta.

Maybe I'll stand alone here, but here goes...

Em Clarkson actually asked for people's stories on jaw surgeries, (to up her insta engagement) and told her auidence she had covid near her op date etc. By marketing herself as a dear chum / big sister to her auidence they will feel like they can message her with thoughts and advise just as they would an actual friend. She isn't their mate, she's a sales person on insta masquerading as a big sister figure, yet like the rest chooses to keep the friend act going while she establishes a larger and larger following who she currently needs to interact with her while growing her insta engagement figures.

She needed the SM following to get her book sales, she got the publishing deal thanks to family connections, and is very lucky. People stating she doesn't use Jeremy Clarkson's to get exposure, well...firstly she has his name, secondly she has his face (not saying she looks like a man but as soon as I saw her I knew, as she has her father's features) and lastly having Jezza all over her socials (with his reputation for being a ruddy cheeked bully, who was fired for punching camera crew over lack of steaks. His being a Conservative etc) won't appeal to her target auidence of younger, mostly Liberal women who want to be told that just by showing up they're doing great, and that insta filters aren't real (a good message!) She will however take all the lucrative endorsement deals along the way - thanks. Picking up where Jameela Jamil's twitter tapered off and offering a picture free version of Florence Given's book. Em seems to (like her Father) just enjoy the sound of her own voice, an awful lot.

Her insta is mostly fun at this stage, but she's in it for the easy life, the huge cash grabs and minimal work hours like the rest if the influencers who refuse to acknowledge their privilege, and will screw over their auidence in time when the right deal is offered.

Enjoy her, but don't be fooled, she is just like the rest of them and only has her own best interests at heart.

cee-bee said:

She reminds me of a bully. The kind of girl in school who was soooo good at appearing like an angel to teachers and parents but was horrendous behind the scenes. I get strong bully vibes off her but can’t put my finger on why - I think it’s how I see her interact with people in comments, and the way she comes across as very ranty and sanctimonious.

I appreciate my opinion might not be shared by others on the thread but I get really bad vibes.

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Yes!

Feels like a sense of entitlement again to me. She feels entitled to be liked and not be spoken negatively about.

her father has literally gloated about nepotism. She’s called women who have one night stands “sluts”. Her brand of feminism absolutely isn’t intersectional, it’s about making herself money. But anyone critiquing her is out of order.

I don’t come on tattle to gossip, I come on tattle because I see how damaging and hypocritical a lot of “influencers” are. It gives me a place to vent and learn about ways influencers can be misleading, and in that sense I think the forum provides a valuable function. Some threads are a bit mental, but then every pocket of the internet has that. Nothing I’ve seen about Em has been wildly unfair.

Em says she doesn’t think anyone would come onto a forum and speak badly of her if they were unhappy? Well thanks for your concern em, but i have a pretty great life actually and im a pretty happy person if I do say so myself.

Conversely, I would suggest that people who curate an online persona of themselves probably aren’t very happy people. I don’t know anyone who is happy within themselves who needs to present an act online and get validation from strangers. I don’t know anyone happy within themselves who needs to relentlessly post online. I don’t know anyone who is happy within themselves who feels the need to outright LIE about seeing “trolls’ faces” in a pathetic attempt to control the narrative.

good for you hun if you “know yourself” and if dismissing everyone on tattle who disagrees with you as some sad, unhappy troll helps you sleep at night then I’ve no issue with that, but no one is actually believing that line. The truth is, we are all normal people who have full and happy lives, but just have a very different perspective to you. And just like you refuse to “make yourself small” why should tattlers keep quiet? You make money as a promoter, often promoting products like fast fashion which a lot of people find unethical. Your brand of feminism is exclusionary, which lots of people find unethical. Etc etc etc.

bellinibobble said:

The one with Nelly London about trolling pretty much was. They basically said if you’re on Tattle we don’t want you as a listener, so that’s the point where I thought, ok then bye 🫥

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What they were really saying was;

If you have an opinion that differs from our, superior opinions then we aren’t interesting in having you as a listener as we like living in our cocoon of privilege and are creating a nice little echo chamber for ourselves that we don’t want ruined.

I've never disagreed with Em up until now. If I saw Nelly in the street in lingerie I wouldn't be offended or have much to say but I can still respect that it might make other people uncomfortable. I don't get why they're putting such energy in trying to invalidate these people. It's not up to Em and Alex to determine what should make others uncomfortable or not.

There are flaws in their arguments too like someone above mentioned.

Gingerbread2019 said:

Fuuuuuuck me she is so privileged it's unreal. How would she cope if she had a normal job that required you to go in somewhere regardless of HG. Most people cannot lay in bed feeling sorry for themselves for days on end. They have to get on with it and puke in the bogs at work

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she reminds me a lot of Florence Given.
There’s a certain type of Rich Posh White Girl Feminist that’s almost cookie cutter.

she lectures into the camera, takes selfies, co-opts messages from other demographics, ignores the way unearned privilege is the reason she has a soapbox at all, spews the same, clichéd, reductive “empowering” soundbites while yelling into the camera because she’s so quirky and silly. She always has a way of sort of lecturing people and doling out advice despite having had no real life experience or having had to really ever graft at anything. Talks about body positivity but almost always has a traditionally acceptable body type.
Does a sad face into the camera or has a moan now and again because to her privileged, out of touch self, this is what being relatable means to them, and having a bad day feeling a bit sad is the closest they’ll get to some struggle in their lives.

Thinks “I’m so excited about the woman I’m yet to become” or “they taught us to fear witches but not the people who burned them” is profound and meaningful philosophic thought.

Emily IS a victim here. MM IS a victim here. With comments like this, tbh, ALL women are victims. It doesn't matter who is right who is wrong who did what, ALL women suffer from misogyny like this.

Today right now Emily will be feeling that directly with the thousands of people in her DMs saying say more do more cut him off blah blah blah. MM will be feeling it while thousands parrot JC's violent words. Saying you hate someone on a cellular level and describing sexual violence of this level is not 'questioning actions or behaviours'.

But men having platforms to say shit like this damages us all by giving men a free pass to speak about us and our daughters that way on small and large scales. Anyone who makes this incident into an anti-MM thing is completely missing the point.

That rant she did yesterday was the final straw for me. As someone who has struggled with my weight all my life to see someone who has never had a weight problem moan about their body its insulting. As a larger person, to see someone who is a, what size 10? Complain about their body what hope is there for a size 20 person. It’s infuriating that people like Em jump on the BoPo train to be relevant but they have no idea. I bet she’s never struggled to find nice clothes or always been overlooked by men for being too big. I get that it’s all relative and it’s about how you feel about your body but fuck off woman, you rant for the sake of it

She is a massive part of the problem she keeps moaning about. Every day she posts videos/photos of her exercising. I don’t care if it’s supposedly nothing to do with weight loss, it absolutely comes across as her being desperate to change her body. That coupled with pictures of her breathing in for dear life (sunbathing photo, recent bikini pics) says that she wants to lose weight or appear thinner too. She’s also completely missing the part where she’s a size 12/14 at most - slim and straight sized. All this ‘I don’t owe anyone thinness, I can take up space’ - mate you are thin.

Anyone else think she's great? She's upbeat and genuine, and uses her platform for a lot of good (e.g. body positivity, women's rights). She's the daughter of Jeremy Clarkson but seems to have gained a following beyond this.

horsey1234 said:

I overall like her, she’s privileged yeah and I am not entirely sure how she affords her lifestyle or what she actually does all day, but hey she’s certainly putting a better message out there than most and I like that she sticks up for herself, calls shit out and doesn’t mind just saying it how it is.

Although i have a slight issue that every time she does a post where her stomach is on show she poses with her arms above her head trying to make herself look slimmer. Like yeah we’d obviously all do the same, but on the next post she’ll be ranting about how fake Instagram is and how you should be happy in your own body.. just find it a bit troublesome.

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I think she knows what the right thing to say is, what will sit well with people, and goes with it.

she doesn’t have a lot of original ideas. She is all about feminism and inclusivity on a surface level, in that she’ll regurgitate feminist quotes. What some people might call “saying it like it is” to me comes across as aggressive and rude; as someone who is convinced of their superiority and will attack anyone who dares disagree.

In an ad she posted for a sweaty betty sports bra, she talks about female empowerment and “breast concerns” among women, how Sweaty Betty have a campaign to encourage women to exercise yada yada yada.

except sweaty Betty as a brand, isn’t sustainable. On the rating website good on you sweaty Betty scored 2/5 on the Labour rating and were rated overall as “not good enough” with the verdict on their labour practices; “There is no evidence it has worker empowerment initiatives such as collective bargaining or rights to make a complaint. There is no evidence it ensures payment of a living wage in its supply chain. It traces some of its supply chain. It audits some of its supply chain including all of the final stage of production.”

who makes up the majority of labourers in the fast fashion industry? That’s right - women and girls. Em is happy for female empowerment when she’s able to #ad it, she’s happy to talk about it because she knows it appeals to most of us reading. but if she was *truly* about empowering women; wouldn’t she care about these women bein exploited by this particular brand? Wouldn’t she highlight that in her ad? Wouldn’t she refuse to work with Sweatyy Betty until they improved? It’s easy to interview popular female journalists and influencers and bloggers and ask them to talk about how hard it is being a female in the public space. That isn’t hard hitting or unique. These are women who already have a platform, a voice. The garment workers do not.

someone pointed it out to her in a comment a little while back, and I noticed because she was super sarky. They pointed out that fast fashion is exploitive and it’s something a lot of influencers are involved in. em’s response?

“Why don’t you want women to make money?” Aka female influencers are making money so what’s the issue? Who cares about female garment workers?

and in response to that same person saying women shouldn’t make money if it exploits other women;

“You say women must support each other and then literally say you don’t want women making money if it’s in a way you don’t agree with” like yes, obviously Em. No one should be happy to make money off of poor, underpaid, exploited women. That isn’t feminism. Feminism is dismantling patriarchal systems (of which fast fashion is one). What em is doing is pushing these garment workers to the side to get a place at the table for herself. That’s working to keep the patriarchial systems in place under the guise of feminism.

Don’t let her empty platitudes fool you. Em doesn’t care about anything other than making herself money. That’s how I came to learn of her existence: that time she had a meltdown because someone reported her posts. She was worried she’d lose money because of it.

to everyone who says they like her; she knows exactly what she’s doing. She’s saying things she knows you like hearing. But she’s not practicing it. Her attitude towards fast fashion shows her complete hypocrisy.