Yel

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I saw that childrens toys are going to be in short supply this year too, guessing there is going to be alot of panic buying going on!
2022 has to be better right?!
At the risk of being called a Grinch, is less children's toys for Christmas a bad thing?

So much of it is absolute plastic crap and its so inexpensive these days that many kids get mountains of presents.

I'm more worried about running out of gas for the soda stream 😐
 
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There is no point in us turning on each other.

In every demographic across the nation there will be families struggling and families doing ok, pensioners struggling to turn the heating on and other pensioners who are spending half the year at a holiday home.

We need to band together and demand better for everyone. There is not one group of people who you can point to and say theyre the worst off they need help.

My household are the squeezed middle, we would typically be the type funding restaurants, local coffee shops, kids recreational clubs. If things get worse we will cut back and if everyone in our circumstances has to cut back on similar things its disastrous for the local economy.
 
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I volunteer at a food bank. Yesterday we had 3 new clients. An elderly couple who hadn’t eaten for 4 days because a new, higher direct debit for energy had left them £90 worse off - they’re on fixed pension income and their rent goes up in October. And a frail lady in her late 70’s who has eaten nothing but tea and dry toast for 2 weeks because of the worry of her winter fuel bills and who was crying because she was so ashamed to be in the food bank. Looks like the government hopes a cold winter will finish the job that Covid started. Let’s get that pension expenditure down! I’m not a weepy person but the first couple reminded me of my grandparents - hardworking and proud - and I sobbed all the way home. But crying won’t help. What can we DO.
 
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maharini

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Well. Got a job today, after a year off for caring/writing. Local, so little/no commuting costs. Senior, so good salary, challenging job. Negotiated a 3 day week. And I’m 58. First application since sabbatical, first interview, and it’s working for a cause I believe in (cancer care). Can’t quite believe it. Was fully prepared for M&S night shift and my pension being decimated by the time I properly retire. Two year contract. I honestly thought I would be unemployable. Shocked. Pleased, but shocked.
 
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Yel

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A nurse was on sky news, after talking about how so many of her colleagues had to visit a food bank she said that they also had to tell their children that Christmas wouldn't be good this year due to their pay.

Why would you tell children that? Christmas is about having time off and spending quality time together. Not having money for expensive gifts (probably made in China) doesn't mean it'll be an awful Christmas. Without sounding patronising and a Grinch maybe spending less on tat isn't the end of the world, and could be good for the planet.

We were making wreaths last week with the children, we spent a few pounds on ribbon, twine and glue. But we had a fun afternoon collecting and didn't buy any plastic.
 
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Experiences is definitely a good idea, helps businesses out and unlikely to go out of stock!

Maybe we'll see less parents doing this for 2021? It can't be all bad
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I've been paid this morning, after transferring my bill money to the joint account, and my usual direct debits going out I've about £300 to last me the month - and with that I've got to get food shops as well so really I've closer to £0. It just makes me feel really sad as it feels like there's no room for enjoyment anymore :( I used to look forward to pay day and now I just feel deflated and depressed when it arrives because it's getting tougher and tougher each month to make it stretch.

I don't want to sound ungrateful because I know that I'm lucky enough to be employed with regular wages coming in, some people don't even have that and I do understand that from that perspective I'm in a better position but it still feels like an awful situation :(
 
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Isn't it funny how things turn out.

I was at my nans funeral today so with alot of family, mainly my cousins who I haven't seen for many years, I'm the 'eldest grand daughter' so all my cousins are younger and are now in their late 20s/30s. I follow them in IG and FB etc so I know what they are up to but often think they are doing so much better than I am. Most own their own home, go on several holidays a year, kids, fancy cars etc. I escaped an abusive marriage with my only child 3 years ago. I live in rented housing association flat. Got an old banger of a car on its last legs (praying it will last at least 12 more months), single wage but manage to put some savings away but not as much as i would like etc. I'm not struggling but certainly not rolling in it.

Found out today, their whole lives are financed by credit cards. They were boasting how much debt they are in, advising the best car loans/credit card offers etc. I am no longer envy of them, I am finally happy with my financial situation! Yay! It made me so happy. Yes, I have 1 credit card. £500 limit and I have never used it, its there for that 1 emergency I may have.

I feel so relieved, its a funny feeling. I suppose what I want to say is, if you see someone who looks like they are living a great life, unless you know for certain they are paying for it with real money, please don't be jealous of them, it's all in credit. I would rather have nothing and be free of debt then have everything and have debt companies chasing me.
 
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I can still moan about the rising cost of living and have a takeaway. I’m moaning about the cost of living because this time last year I was paying £95 a month gas and electricity, I’m now paying £160 and come January this its predicted to be £320 so yes I can moan. I can moan that I used to be able to fill my car up for £45 and now it’s £60 and my car is essential for work. I can also moan because I work for the NHS in Scotland and whilst all these prices have gone up- my wages have not and whilst a pay deal was offered its been rejected by the unions. Moaning about the increasing cost of living and still having money to buy a takeaway are not mutually exclusive
 
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In my 30’s and have always worked hard but does make you think what is actually the point when I could be jobless, on benefits and get everything for free or swim to France get a boat back forgetting my papers and have My entire life funded for me
This comment has no place in a thread like this one.

This thread was created for many of us to share our concerns over the current cost of living expenses and not for racist people like you to insult migrants who have to flee to save their own lives.

As someone who had to flee war from a country where heads are beheaded and used as balls to play soccer I find people like you disgusting.
 
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At the risk of being called a Grinch, is less children's toys for Christmas a bad thing?

So much of it is absolute plastic crap and its so inexpensive these days that many kids get mountains of presents.

I'm more worried about running out of gas for the soda stream 😐
I would love Christmas and other celebrations to go back low key. It's just consumerism and not good for our children.
We try to do different things for Christmas gifts, homemade, charity shop, novelty. cheapest competition, Each year my daughter thinks of new things we can do.


I have a stocked food cupboard, and other means of heating, lighting and cooking and if need be I have my old fleece onies and teddy bear bedding if its a toss-up between heating or the laptop ;)
 
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Our mortgage fixed term happens to be ending as the new interest rates started 😩 we were hoping that we could reduce our mortgage payments so we can manage other outgoings, its gone up by £600 😭. We were paying 900 and now £1500 (south east).

I literally want to cry, we have cut back on everything that we can, i meal plan to an inch, have no heating on apart from 30 mins in the morning for the kids bedrooms so they aren’t freezing.

i fucking hate this country and what the government has done to it.
 
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maharini

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Reading through these posts is enlightening and depressing in equal measure, but it does seem to me that the ‘heavy lifting’ on cost of living falls disproportionally on women, particularly those with children. Thinking about, shopping for and cooking food, worrying about getting laundry clean and dry, keeping everyone warm. ‘Twas ever thus, my OH is mildly autistic, likes what he likes, has a food routine, but shows absolutely no interest in increased food prices, no matter how ridiculous the increase in his favourite cheese or ham. I know others are better, just wanted to say bloody well done, you’re all amazing. But you know, it shouldn’t have to be this way.
 
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I think people are very quick to judge when people are struggling on higher incomes, but definitely don’t take housing into account.
My salary is £45k, but I work in London and I have to live in a commutable distance and factor in commuting costs.
I still live in the town I grew up in, which is an hour away from London by train. Because it’s in commuting distance, prices have risen a lot over the pandemic when people moved out of the city.
A lot of people would laugh at the idea that I’m not super well off on my salary, but when my mortgage is over £1500 a month, my disposable income isn’t that high.
There’s also tons of people who just say “move up north”, but I would have to leave behind my job, friends, family and everything I’ve known my whole life behind.
 
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It pisses me off when people say ‘well we coped in the 70s’. The 70s were 50 years ago!! I very much doubt in the 70s people were saying ‘we coped in 1920’.
It’s 2022, people shouldn’t be strip washing in cold water as they can’t afford to put their hot water on, or sleeping in tents in their lounge.
 
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Literally. I've got £62 in my account after paying for a big food shop at Lidl (because that's the only place I can afford to shop) and have to get through until the 23rd. On Monday I have a scan at the hospital for a post op hemotoma and the 2 return bus tickets for the 2 bus journeys it takes to get there will cost me £18. I'm debating today cancelling the appointment I really shouldn't miss because I may have an infection as that's almost a third of that £62 gone on something just for me, my son will probably need something and I'll have spent that £18 on myself rather than being able to afford something he'll need. Which reminds me, I need to get him some winter shoes as his little trainers are definitely not waterproof. There's always something.

But this is a hugely common thing for people this year. Hunch can't imagine having to choose between potential post op infection or winter shoes for her kids (I'm guessing they don't get winter shoes). She doesn't know what it's like pulling the duvets off both beds and huddling under them in one bed to stay warm. She doesn't know what it's like listening to her son cough all night because cold air triggers asthma but you can't turn on the heating or there will be no hot water for baths this week, which you share to make the hot water go further.

Sorry for the rant, I'm so unbelievably angry that some people do nothing yet get given so much and all because of fleecing people.
 
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Yel

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when you have children and 11 neices and nephews it kinda is lol
We're clubbing in this year to get a few things, rather than loads of random stuff that often doesn't get used.

I'm not against presents, just the huge rampant consumerism and plastic tat that has one use that often isn't used much before it goes to sit in landfill for millennia.
 
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9$ for domestic apricots is crazy (I'm guessing that's AUD?). I'm not sure how the average person will afford a healthy diet.

At any point I could see society breaking down. It's just all too much. Used to be something 10% of people struggled now it feels more like 90% and it continues down.

I don't know why they're still called budget airlines or ultra low cost carriers, it's usually over £200 for a return. Gone are the £20 returns.

Almost every country has an issue with the birthrates and with each year it's getting more difficult to balance the books.
The issue I see is we're asked to be and do too much. So we are asked to be career driven and to be hustle boss babes, so we extend our education we get those masters we try to get our decent jobs, but there's too much competition and the value of the qualifications are watered down.

We get told to try not to scrounge off the state so we try not to start families before we can financially support them ourselves, but we can't afford to move out from our parent's now until our late 20s (generally).

We're told we should save early for a mortgage and not buy coffee and avocadoes, yet rates are high and people stuck paying inflated rent for years but still you try to save ...

The council taxes and rates go up by 10s of percentage points a year.

Food goes up. We're told to stop eating ultra processed food of which for the average UK person is over 50-80% of our daily diet, and we are getting more ill as a result, yet access to local produce like a farm shop is out of the question for about 99% of us, logistics wise.

We get told to support the high street but when you try the bus links are rubbish, non existent, and the parking is extortionate. The town centre littered with scary druggies. Then shops shut. And then we get blamed for not stimulating the economy by buying stuff we don't need, because we have no disposable income anyway, anymore.

And then you get pressured to progress to a management role, when being a manager is not within the wishes of your soul nor fits with your anxiety, so then you're stuck at your admin pay grade (yep, I just really don't want that stress). So your future finances are balanced on the do-i-want-to-hate-my-life-and-force-myself-to-be-a-manager? Or Stay-at-this-non-management-admin-grade-for-the-rest-of-my-life-despite-rising-financial-needs?

Then those of us who eventually have kids (not yet for me) are then guilted into the mess of negotiating less hours to cover own childcare, or paying £££ to minders, and getting flack for either decision.

Just blurting my anxiety out, don't mind me.

Households can't take these council tax and utilities hikes like 25% on last year, much more. This cannot keep happening. Our economy depends on supply. We don't all have farms and allotments to fall back on if the shop food prices become too much. We are overstretched.

I work full time, reading is the hobby I currently indulge in as it helps me relax, and yet I feel guilty when I buy a few books, because I know that money should probably go towards my future, but then again, why are we working full time if we can't even buy a book without feeling guilty?

I used to scoff at the idea of communes but sometimes it does seem tempting 😅

As a society we have overcooked the goose. We rely too heavily on the global picture and so we are effed. On an individual level it's too difficult to function outside of this system. We are too dependent on it.
 
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Bubbledoggyyeah

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I had no central heating at all until I was 18. And even now, my house is under 10 degrees over winter and only about 22 in summer. As a society we’ve forgotten it’s a very recent thing to have heating like we do and completely lost the ability to cope without it (which actually isn’t all that hard if you are used to it).
I really dislike thinking like this. Just because heating may be a ‘recent’ thing, doesn’t mean we all don’t deserve to be able to afford it. Electricity and having an abundance of food in the shop is also fairly recent and we all deserve that too. Basic human rights.
 
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Yel

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Someone asked on the last thread if it felt like a societal collapse of the UK. Sadly I think the UK is middle of the pack in terms of countries facing turmoil.

Record floods and droughts across the world, crop failures, mainland Europe faces running out of energy if there's a cold snap. There's just too much happening the world over to even notice a fraction of it. Things seem to have changed for good and no going back to the normal.

The UK has a ridiculous leadship debate with the two candidates people least wanted fighting for it meanwhile labour are telling people not to join a picket line and tying themselves up in knots over how to define a woman.
 
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