Evil David Letterman

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Not only brutal to leave behind parents / relatives, but around this time of year is just tragic. See ya later Adam. Saw this on the socials, don't know who created it initially.
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2020planner

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Didn't he just recently say he was "running on fumes"? And so many of us would always say... why don't you just stop for awhile? I think that we would have all embraced that, even if we'd not have had any content to snark about. LOL We'd have been fine.

He obviously had the money to fly to all of these destinations, first class. Nice hotels. Most expensive APs. Buy unlimited junk. Spend money like it was growing on trees. So why not just take a break for a few months? Sure, he'd take a hit in the algorithm but his viewers would still be there when he returned.

He just was his own worst enemy so much of the time.

The ritual of the absolute-must-do daily vlog... the self-imposed deadlines for someone who had no boss... the neurotic "goals" (or proclamations) he felt he had to make - and then restructure a new goal to replace that goal that wasn't going to happen) ... the ridiculous timeframes he felt he needed to rigidly adhere to... the buying a $550,000+ house in cash on a whim (and it was, despite what he'd say) and paying the full asking price... the paying in full for DVC, again seemingly out of the blue ... the yo-yo dieting with significant weight loss by means of practical starvation and coffee swinging back to overindulgence of fatty foods, colas, etc...

It was like there was no moderation with him. Everything was such an extreme. One way or the other.

Who knows? Maybe he knew or felt something that we'd never know. So, like I think it was @CrazySquirrelLady who said it, that's why he was doing all these international things this year, rather than spreading them out over time.

I'd hate to think that the combination of all the air travel (which is hard on even the healthiest of people), time changes, etc. stressed his body to the breaking point, when coupled with the overall underlying health issues he could have had (actually, most definitely had) that he was unaware of.

I so wish he would have chosen to spend Mother's Day with his mom... Thanksgiving with his parents... instead of vlogging... but he was going to do what he wanted to do. As we'd always joke... Cartman.

I feel so bad for his family, especially happening 2-3 days before Christmas. :cry:
 
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dirtnap101

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Sophie posted all the her videos of their trip on Instagram. You can hear Adam in some of them. If this was such an amazing trip and friendship, why not share it before....

Definitely not AI, and you can see Adam in some of the videos. Example:

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I can hear Adam say "if you know, you know" in front of the Pantheon, which is what he said in the vlog when he took his "Clark Griswold" selfie in front of it, and other videos where you can hear him narrating his vlog.

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Zero doubt about her story now.

I just don't understand why anyone would want to live like this...hidden, constantly making sure you're positioned correctly, "stay in the hallway with your bags while I do a 'room tour' and I'll tell you when you can come in".

And as @LillyinHou said, this is not solo travel on Adam's part. I'm sure Adam paid for all of it, but how much of it did he actually research? I can see him telling Sofie what he wanted to do, where he wanted to go, what he wanted to see, and then she told him to book here, we need to do this, etc. Even just dealing with being in Italy - according to her IG, as she's based in the UK, she's traveled around Europe and specifically Italy before this, so she can advise him on pretty much anything. 99% of people watching thought Adam was doing this on his own, but he wasn't.

Adam seemed to be stringing her along, too, with this whole "bring your mom over and you and I and our moms can meet up and hang out at WDW" thing. Was that to be the unveiling of Sofie to the channel? Or Sofie and her mom were going to show up in Florida, and Adam was going to calmly explain to his mother that this is a woman he met in the UK and he likes her, but she doesn't want to be on camera? And he was going to film vlogs with him and his mom staying at Bay Lake as if it was a mother-son staycation, but hidden behind the scenes would be Sofie and her mom? And how much of the bill is Adam footing here? DVC, sure, but was he to pay for flying Sofie AND her mom over from the UK?

Sheesh...what a tangled web to weave
 
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Emmapism

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Justin's 'I won't be replying to messages for a while' is like a millennial Mum checking into a hospital on Facebook and then saying 'I can't talk about it'

Well then don't fucking post about it? It's the Erika Kirk grief tour. Get this man some eyeliner and pyrotecnics, stat.
 
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dirtnap101

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Happy New Year to you all (although I know some have already moved into 2026, I still have three hours of Twilight Zone before I do)
 
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2020planner

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Not gonna lie. We all know he really could majorly press our buttons most days.

We all started out, in some form or fashion, as fans. I wish he wouldn't have ignored me when I tried to say "hi" to him at MegaCon that day. I just wanted to say hi and that we watched his vlogs. I guess from that point forward, I saw him in a different light. Then, the timeframe around COVID seemed to change him. Then I, like many of you, ended up here somehow.

I know a lot of us would love to leave some parting words on his last vlog, but we're shadowbanned. For whatever silly reason, in retrospect.

I know I'm not alone in those thoughts.
It's all just human nature to reflect on this now.

Either way, for as much as he could piss us off with his snark and vlogs that weren't like they used to be - and we all could launch some major barbs in his direction (and he could snark back just as much to people), we all never wanted this, of course.

I feel most horribly for his parents. Especially his mom. And yes, his father. When I wished them Happy Thanksgiving a month ago, when he was absent from them for the holiday, I got some flack for wishing his father the same as his mother. Regardless of what one thinks of his father, his father is his father and deserves our condolences as well. I truly hope this doesn't create a domino effect and his sister lose her parents now one after another due to grief. I've seen it happen.

RIP Adam. Hope you're at peace. Wherever you may be.
 
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2020planner

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I haven’t watched the video but exactly how did these two get their own ride vehicle? Were they so annoying that everyone refused to ride with them? This is one of the few rides that has a single rider line so that no vehicle has any empty seats.


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Look at the losers in this pic.

If this ain't the most accurate depiction of how sad the life of a vlogger REALLY is.

You're riding a ride at Disney... one that you've been on 100 times before... one that people save up for years to visit to ride... and while you're on it, you're ignoring each other, ignoring the experience itself...and instead are making fucking overexaggerated faces into your fucking camera.

I mean, what. the. fuck.
 
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Obviously, I have sympathy for all who loved Woo on a personal level. That's a no brainer.
Whether they are family, friends... or even those who thought they were more than they possibly were to Woo (e.g., Sofie).
And yes, even Tim Tracker.

I've always been one to respect those who grieve privately, and without fanfare. That's my personal opinion.

I lose sympathy when one of those individuals who are grieving post lengthy comments after comments after comments after comments after comments on social media, rambling incessantly about themselves (and inserting mentions of hot sauce) with self-serving "I'm on my way" and "Finally Ally is coming" statements, as if this one individual is the (to use the term I called him) "Numero Uno" BFF Mourner-and-no-one-is-mourning-as-much-as-he-is-and-no-one-was-closer-to-Woo-than-he-was.

Is he outright saying this?
No.

Do I negate his grief?
No.

Has he known Adam for a long time (and before vlogging)?
Of course... and so has a lot of other people, including the friend who posted the funeral pics on FB.

However, it sure is coming across from Justin, at a certain point, as completely disingenuous and attention-seeking.

He is known to do this. Travels to Paris. Claims he's poor. Has all the time in the world to do Route 66 travel in a new-at-the-time Mustang. Claims he's poor. Stays at the most expensive suites on Disney property thanks to a generous "friend"? Claims he's poor. Ally is in the hospital and Justin says thanks for the nice words, but he doesn't need anything else from you unless you have a million dollars to give him. Um... OK?

He made a post the other day that he will be "mostly" ok someday. "Mostly?" Like, what is that even supposed to mean? Has he never experienced the passing of a loved one before? Enough to make these types of comments? It starts to ring hollow. Are we supposed to sympathize more with him, or Woo's family?

Justin has a track record of drama. And grifting. And playing woe-is-me.
And, as others have said, put down your phone already and seek some true help if you need it.

I learned awhile back not to give any of these vloggers an inch (as in, defending them).
Because they'll turn right around and do something to make you eat your words.

Perhaps I am wrong to have slightly defended, if you could use that word, Tim Tracker with his post about Woo, or Tim and Jenn monetizing the vlog (and now making a playlist), because who the fuck hasn't monetized or capitalized on Woo's death at this point? In some form or fashion? 🤷‍♀️

That being said, did Justin monetize his vlog about Woo? Did Provost Park Pass monetize his vlog?
I didn't watch them all the way through (just bits and pieces) so I don't know the answer to that. Maybe some of y'all do.

And furthermore, for those vloggers saying they would donate the profits made from a vlog to the family...
How exactly does that work? How is that quantified? When would that cut-off be? Profits made for a month? Two months? Three months? Couldn't a vlog continue to make a few bucks down the road? When would it end? How is that money determined? And why would the family need a random couple hundred dollars 6-9 months from now, when they're sitting on a half-mil paid-in-full townhouse and DVC shares?

I dunno. I just don't trust ANY of these vloggers these days. Hence why we're generally all here. Threads like this exist for a reason.
 
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dirtnap101

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Came across a user (houseofthehill) on the ATW sub-Credits that indicates they are a female from the Illinois/Iowa Quad Cities area that "knew" Adam...which helps explains to me why he spent so much time in the past few years in the Quad Cities area (even when he wasn't visiting family)

She claims Adam never asked her to "stay secret" and that it was her choice to remain off camera and not wanting the Wooverse in her face. Says he used to "chuckle" about people finding out, so it was no big deal to him.

She is very supportive of Sofie's posts, and as far as Adam making future plans with his various ladies...

"He always made more travel plans with people. I was supposed to go back with him to House on the Rock. He wanted more trips when they decorated it for different holidays and when he had more time to go through it intricately. We often also talked about Chicago and St Louis (did go to StL with him once already though)."​

Says she knew he had other women in various places...she describes Adam as "solo poly"

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This tracks perfectly...a narcissist considering themselves their primary partner.

Finally:

"Adam orchestrated his life the way he wanted and he was far from lonely or unhappy. I just spoke to him Saturday. He checked in on me to see how I was feeling because I had been sick. We joked about being ready for Santa."​

I assume Adam was in contact and getting ready to line her up to "hang out" for the first part of his Route 66 jaunt in 2026.

Remember the many times we asked what he was doing all day when he would start filming at 6pm and do a lazy 30 min video based on driving around Celebration for an hour or two? I think he was spending all day juggling all his "best friends" and "good friends" and "friends with benefits" in every corner of the US (and in 2025, the globe). Vegas, LA, Quad Cities, Europe, Orlando, so at this point I have to assume he had a FWB everywhere he went, possibly multiple. Amazing, really, that it was only recently he got caught with Wystri, and only by chance with the mystery woman on that livestream in Vegas.
 
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For those of you that don’t follow the Tim Tracker threads, Tim and Jenn have uploaded their tribute to Adam on YouTube. It’s monetized and they linked their Amazon storefront.
 
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minimax

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Well, I didn’t expect to see this one, but I guess grifters gotta grift.

These two bottom feeding pieces of trash are a cancer on the vlogging community and have lost 70% of their audience since doing what they did to Adam.

I only wish the absolute worst for them and their ambitions as they try to profit once again off a tragedy. (Last one being multiple videos about the LA Wildfires that didn't impact them at all).
 
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2020planner

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Adam seemed to be stringing her along, too, with this whole "bring your mom over and you and I and our moms can meet up and hang out at WDW" thing. Was that to be the unveiling of Sofie to the channel? Or Sofie and her mom were going to show up in Florida, and Adam was going to calmly explain to his mother that this is a woman he met in the UK and he likes her, but she doesn't want to be on camera? And he was going to film vlogs with him and his mom staying at Bay Lake as if it was a mother-son staycation, but hidden behind the scenes would be Sofie and her mom? And how much of the bill is Adam footing here? DVC, sure, but was he to pay for flying Sofie AND her mom over from the UK?

Sheesh...what a tangled web to weave
I honestly hate to say it, but I think he was stringing A LOT of women along.
Women who, for whatever reason, were thirsty to be with some quasi-celebrity vlogger.

Now that so many are coming out of the woodwork, including extra clingy Sofie, I truly believe he'd visit them, pay for EVERYTHING (even if he dictated what they'd being doing), give them the attention they craved, and who the hell knows what else happened (well, we can imagine).

Because, despite what he'd say when Wysteri (or however you spell that) was spotted with him at HS, it's NOT "normal" to have multiple gal pals - as a 50-something single male - who "just happen" to be OF... or "just happen" to look a type... or "just happen" to meet up with him in all these nooks and crannies across the U.S. (and now Europe).

It doesn't "just happen" unless there's some sort of transactional thing occurring (paid or unpaid).
These gals can say what they say, but we weren't all born yesterday.
 
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I can't believe this shithead writes "Miserable" in his title, as in the miserable place known as Utqiagvik. :mad:

So sorry that the hardworking, no-frills people of a historical, archaeologically significant, weather-beaten, and snow-covered town with only three hours of daylight - a place that dumbass vloggers apparently treat as a circus sideshow to go make stupid thumbnails and to "say they've been there" - didn't roll out the fucking red carpet for your spoiled, uneducated, pampered ass, you vlogger fuck.

Fuck you, David. 🖕
 
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dirtnap101

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There are at least 3 times Justin hints at telling something in the future, btw...

Justin begins by saying he doesn't know how to go on, how to get back up, etc.

Then he immediately follows that with:

"The only thing I know from 43 years of getting knocked down is eventually though, no matter how hard the hit, at some point you do have to just get back up. You got to keep breathing. You got to keep walking. You've got to put one foot in front of the other and just sort of learn how to be again."​

Ok, so you DO know what to do. Speaking in contradictions in a walk and talk around Lake Reinhardt, truly a tribute to Adam.

BTW, Justin decided to record sitting somewhere where you can hear either recorded music or a live performance of music in the background. Very distracting, but he was going to do this in this spot come hell or high water.

He says again that Adam passed away peacefully in his sleep.

Justin says when he got to Florida, he went to Adam's house for the first time at 2:30am on purpose so he knew he'd be alone and it would be quiet. Says that was a good idea because he had a breakdown, knowing Adam wouldn't answer the door and let him in.

"When I say mental breakdown, I'm talking like screaming and crying in the street by myself on my knees."​

Hmm, wonder if he woke the neighbors? You know, screaming and all at 2:30am.

Talking about trying to support the family after he arrived:

"...for me and some of his other friends to to be supportive and kind of walk them through what we could. There's things that I knew that other people didn't, things some of his other friends knew that other people didn't. Everybody had a little piece to the puzzle."​

I bet that was some puzzle. I'd buy a jigsaw of that, for sure.

Oh this is where the good stuff is, right here. Exactly as we all thought:

"And because Adam was so private about um anything. I mean if you if you live your life giving the best part of your life to the whole world, you naturally have to set some boundaries and force fields just to keep keep a part of yourself private for your own sanity. And he was very stubborn, in particular, about who could say what about him when and, um we all have that feeling like oh god what do we say what do we say to the world, what do we say to anybody, you know, are we still on Adam rules here kind of thing, and what do we say to protect his family's privacy right now? Anyway it's all very, very confusing."​

Very, very confusing. He had trained them all so carefully on "The Adam Rules" that even after he was dead they were freaked out about what they could say and what they couldn't say. Everyone had a little piece of the puzzle, indeed. Because if the puzzle was ever put together, oh boy!

"Um, then the day came to uh to help lay my friend to rest. And um I wore this shirt, an appropriate shirt, and uh we're not going to talk about details of that day for a long time. Just for a long time. Um I don't think I can. Suffice to say, the day came to uh to lay my friend to rest and I lost it. I lost it....but I'll tell you, it was the first time I felt like I could breathe afterwards. There was something about um his body being in the ground and laid to rest that felt more complete like um like Adam's okay. He's not here. He's okay. and now no one can hurt him anymore. Um, he's all right."​

So there's the "no one can hurt him anymore" line again. Also, how did this guy get to 42 years old and have zero idea of the grieving process. "Something about his body being in the ground and laid to rest that (made it) felt more complete", uh, yeah, that's kinda the whole point of the entire thing.

Every time Justin finds himself wallowing in his grief, he seems to finally come to the conclusion that "sitting here in the <street, parking lot, hotel room, etc.> crying doesn't do anyone any good". He seems to be unable to get that to stick, though.

"I'm never gonna not miss him"​

Who in their right mind would (or did) ever say you would?

"Um there's still going to be a lot of weeping to do and a lot of comforting to do."​

Sigh...

"I've tried to think a lot about like an analogy for what Adam was in my life. He wore a lot of hats. That's what made this so hard at first is like it's not just a friend. It's not just like a brother. You know, my whole at some point I'll be able to tell you the whole story, but just I would not have literally the life that I have, the wife that I have, the job that I have, none of it without him. None of it."​

Then he goes into the whole thing about how they both came from nothing, and how they both (but Adam especially) have always been big on staying humble (is this literally a humble brag? 😂).

Justin has a "loose plan" for "phase two" of, I guess, post-Adam. But he's having a hard time implementing it.

Lots of word salad and then "I'm not being very articulate, am I?"

"The one other thing I'll say about the day that Adam was laid to rest is that there were a lot of those regrets and and things that I um I got off my chest to him and let those lie. A lot of that stuff is bad to sit there and focus on all the things that you wish you'd done differently. But some of it's good. Some of it is good to remember and to to take on board and know that we can do better and not take our friends and our family and our loved ones for granted because I did take him for granted. How could you help it? Thought he was indestructible."
"He wouldn't want us to sit here and be the boring bummer memorial channel or something like that. He also wouldn't want anyone to take his place. I know, Adam. And I know he'd be like, "Get out there and do your own thing. Quit talking about it and do it." But, uh, it's going to be a while. All of this is going to take a long time to sort through and a long time to work through. Some of that I'm going to have to carry on my own. Some of that I'm going to have to uh carry with his friends and family. And uh, some of that, if you're willing, I'll be sharing with you."
"Someday I, I'll tell you guys the last thing that we ever said to each other in person. I can't right now. But, um, but it was good."
"Few more things to do here in Florida. I'm going to be here for at least another week or about another week and um definitely be taking a trip down memory lane. I'll take you with me. There'll probably be a few more things to talk about here and then we got to start um thinking about heading home."

Justin said Adam was private, but he's also the first to spout that if you just watched his videos a lot, you knew him. He also said earlier in this that Adam didn't realize the impact he had and the number of people he touched, but he contradicts that below as well:

"I want you to know though if you didn't know him and you're out there and you're just missing those notifications for the daily video. You did know him. Like I said, you did know the best part of him. He was on a mission all the time. There were days where I'd be like, "Let's just do nothing." Dude, I'm on a mission. Quotes the Blues Brothers, right? I'm on a mission from God. Many, many times where he didn't want to do anything and he still got up and had an adventure, filmed it and shared it cuz he knew there were people out there. Maybe they're incapacitated, they can't go someplace, maybe that was their stress relief for the day. He knew that putting his little piece of positivity into the world was his his mission."​

Did Adam have such a god complex that he felt he had to get up and film something every day because he knew people were depending on it? I still think it was just mental illness. Well, I guess the god complex falls under that umbrella anyway.

He does the "done his duty, sleep well" bit, there's no horse left to beat on that one.

"I'm going to head over here to Starbucks, grab my piping hot caffeinated beverage. I mean, how about that? How amazing of a person is that? What kind of person could take coffee that everybody drinks, that's in every hotel, and every Denny's, and make it their thing to where you can never have a coffee without thinking of them again?"

It's exactly because it's a popular drink that he could use it as one of his Adam-isms. Also, I watched every Adam video for a few years, and then more recently for another 3-4 years. When someone mentions coffee, I think about my wife, I've never thought about Adam.
 
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Spagoot

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I’ve been seeing a lot of, “well…at least he was happy and was doing what he loved”, which kind of negates a lot of the years and years of snark on him. I’m not sure I understand the mental turnaround — and I’m not trying to be mean: Adam, in a lot of ways, was beholden to his channel; to his routine. It was deep, deep seated. There would be long stretches in his life where he would be outwardly dissatisfied, trying to fill a void that swirled inside him. He felt a responsibility to vacation, to tirelessly be out in the world “having fun”. People would dog on him for saying he was overwhelmed or “burning the candle at both ends”, but that was always something I sympathized with. He could never find the leisure he was chasing, because leisure was ultimately his occupation; his duty. It was like an endless loop of non-fulfillment.

As he got older, the desire to settle in locally and do the things he loved to do the most was at war with this gnawing compulsion to fill his channel with variety and to maintain a fanbase that could appreciate both sides of his life. It seemed aimless. It seemed lonely. Despite being surrounded by cohorts who loved and respected him, Adam seemed like a really lonely person. I don’t think Adam could ever allow himself to be truly introspective about his life and that left him incomplete.

At the end, I don’t really have anything but sympathy for Adam the Woo. I found him to be a tragic figure. A lot of what he got on the snark sites was baseless and undeserved. Not all of it, but he ultimately was just a guy trying to please people, including - and most importantly - himself.
 
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