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As much as we don’t want to talk about the notes, I feel like it needs to be acknowledged that just like her statement about Samantha being her sister, these notes could potentially be fictitious. I am keeping an open mind about this all.

The person who posted the notes said maybe she shouldn’t have uploaded them, but was pestered to release ‘proof’. These notes has allowed a timeline of events to evolve from this also.
 
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excuse my brain dump…

After reading the notes, I feel like all this discussion around what can only be described as an incredibly vulnerable, mentally unwell woman who has effectively lost both her children under traumatic circumstances, is not what I signed up for.

I was interested when I thought that this was a cut and dry scammer situation. But people are now gleefully discussing the lack of dead babies on Ancestry and sharing private mental health / custody court notes as entertainment/clout. I think it’s pretty obvious that this poor woman, regardless of her scams, has experienced every parent’s worst nightmare and has resulting severe mental health issues driving her to act like this.

It’s also very possible that she has disassociated from her ‘former self’ due to the trauma of losing her child, to the extent, that she truly believes Samantha is a different person.

I believe she had a baby that died because she’s NEVER mentioned it. Her current life is a fabrication which she is at ease discussing and it probably serves as a distraction from losing a 4 month baby. She would have got plenty of attention and possibly money if she’d discussed her baby and her older child on TT, but she didn’t once mention them probably because it was real, triggering and traumatising.

It’s interesting that she sought support and validation from strangers during the HD/Airbnb situation as maybe she didn’t get support when she experienced trauma of losing her baby. The timeline of her losing a baby, the surrogacy scam, then going ‘missing’ and moving to another country after cutting off her family - she isolated herself away from the people who should be supporting her.

It’s also interesting to me that after losing a baby, her first scam involved pregnancy. Maybe she just wanted to be pregnant and have a baby again. Not excusing it obviously, but she clearly wasnt in her right mind and/or heavily medicated.

After reading those notes, I just feel like this is potentially something on a whole other level that I don’t understand and I just want her to get help. I also want those she scammed to be supported too and get refunded. The two aren’t mutually exclusive.
Yeah, it definitely wasn't where I expected this to go and apologise for sharing those notes. Not that it's an excuse but it is something I now recognise was probably ADHD impulse control/dopamine chasing issues that I need work on, as well as being angry at all the ableism. I certainly wasn't gleeful about the lack of baby records on Ancestry, mainly interested in matching up details with the court case, but I suppose I'd prefer it if she hadn't actually lost a baby? Same as I don't want her to actually have HD if that makes sense. Awful thing to lie about but worse to have actually experienced.

I can understand why the notes were originally posted. The #BeKind crew had been attacking this woman for days for trying to figure out if she'd been scammed (remember, it's sensory stuff people are ordering for their disabled kids' Christmas presents) and demanding evidence. They got it, it just turned out to be horrifying. Newforestsara is still encouraging people to order from Carrantha.

She's definitely seriously ill, it's easy to see where it escalated now and I hope she gets the help she obviously needs too. This has got so much bigger than I expected so I'm gonna take a step back before I cross any more lines. She has done bad things but the people who've given her money have the info they need now. I'm really sorry if I upset anyone.
 
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excuse my brain dump…

After reading the notes, I feel like all this discussion around what can only be described as an incredibly vulnerable, mentally unwell woman who has effectively lost both her children under traumatic circumstances, is not what I signed up for.

I was interested when I thought that this was a cut and dry scammer situation. But people are now gleefully discussing the lack of dead babies on Ancestry and sharing private mental health / custody court notes as entertainment/clout. I think it’s pretty obvious that this poor woman, regardless of her scams, has experienced every parent’s worst nightmare and has resulting severe mental health issues driving her to act like this.

It’s also very possible that she has disassociated from her ‘former self’ due to the trauma of losing her child, to the extent, that she truly believes Samantha is a different person.

I believe she had a baby that died because she’s NEVER mentioned it. Her current life is a fabrication which she is at ease discussing and it probably serves as a distraction from losing a 4 month baby. She would have got plenty of attention and possibly money if she’d discussed her baby and her older child on TT, but she didn’t once mention them probably because it was real, triggering and traumatising.

It’s interesting that she sought support and validation from strangers during the HD/Airbnb situation as maybe she didn’t get support when she experienced trauma of losing her baby. The timeline of her losing a baby, the surrogacy scam, then going ‘missing’ and moving to another country after cutting off her family - she isolated herself away from the people who should be supporting her. I do believe that she enjoyed helping people and supporting them too.

It’s also interesting to me that after losing a baby, her first scam involved pregnancy. Maybe she just wanted to be pregnant and have a baby again. Not excusing it obviously, but she clearly wasnt in her right mind and/or heavily medicated.

After reading those notes, I just feel like this is potentially something on a whole other level that I don’t understand and I just want her to get help. I also want those she scammed to be supported too and get refunded. The two aren’t mutually exclusive.
The woman who posted those notes is a bleeping crank.
If they’re real she is a wrongen for exposing info about a mentally ill woman and her child and if they’re fake then she’s just really sick in the head tbh.
 
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Yeah, it definitely wasn't where I expected this to go and apologise for sharing those notes. Not that it's an excuse but it is something I now recognise was probably ADHD impulse control/dopamine chasing issues that I need work on, as well as being angry at all the ableism. I certainly wasn't gleeful about the lack of baby records on Ancestry, mainly interested in matching up details with the court case, but I suppose I'd prefer it if she hadn't actually lost a baby? Same as I don't want her to actually have HD if that makes sense. Awful thing to lie about but worse to have actually experienced.

I can understand why the notes were originally posted. The #BeKind crew had been attacking this woman for days for trying to figure out if she'd been scammed (remember, it's sensory stuff people are ordering for their disabled kids' Christmas presents) and demanding evidence. They got it, it just turned out to be horrifying. Newforestsara is still encouraging people to order from Carrantha.

She's definitely seriously ill, it's easy to see where it escalated now and I hope she gets the help she obviously needs too. This has got so much bigger than I expected so I'm gonna take a step back before I cross any more lines. She has done bad things but the people who've given her money have the info they need now. I'm really sorry if I upset anyone.
You don't need to apologise.
Everyone has different opinions on everything and that's okay.
You're entitled to post whatever you want and all it was was someone else's video you shared. You didn't upload them to tiktok.
You just posted them on here for discussion.
You've done nothing wrong
 
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Yeah, it definitely wasn't where I expected this to go and apologise for sharing those notes. Not that it's an excuse but it is something I now recognise was probably ADHD impulse control/dopamine chasing issues that I need work on, as well as being angry at all the ableism. I certainly wasn't gleeful about the lack of baby records on Ancestry, mainly interested in matching up details with the court case, but I suppose I'd prefer it if she hadn't actually lost a baby? Same as I don't want her to actually have HD if that makes sense. Awful thing to lie about but worse to have actually experienced.

I can understand why the notes were originally posted. The #BeKind crew had been attacking this woman for days for trying to figure out if she'd been scammed (remember, it's sensory stuff people are ordering for their disabled kids' Christmas presents) and demanding evidence. They got it, it just turned out to be horrifying. Newforestsara is still encouraging people to order from Carrantha.

She's definitely seriously ill, it's easy to see where it escalated now and I hope she gets the help she obviously needs too. This has got so much bigger than I expected so I'm gonna take a step back before I cross any more lines. She has done bad things but the people who've given her money have the info they need now. I'm really sorry if I upset anyone.
My post was in no way directed at you, or anyone specifically so please don’t take it that way. I’ve said a lot of tit on here before coming to my current conclusion.

Regarding Ancestry, I’ve seen loads of comments on TT and Reddit like ‘aha! She’s lying because there’s no record’ and it just sounds so…gross for some people to be taking pleasure out of that horrific element of it. It’s probably the only one of her ‘stories’ I truly believe as it seems to be where it all started. I know someone who lost a child and ok, they didn’t do anything like that, but she is not the same person and that incident effected every other thing in her life - her marriage, her relationship with her family and her other kids, her career, her finances - and just reading those notes really hit home for me what I was involving myself in.

I am going to take some time away from this too. I’ll maybe come back and read, but going to think very carefully before commenting again.
 
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Yeah, it definitely wasn't where I expected this to go and apologise for sharing those notes. Not that it's an excuse but it is something I now recognise was probably ADHD impulse control/dopamine chasing issues that I need work on, as well as being angry at all the ableism. I certainly wasn't gleeful about the lack of baby records on Ancestry, mainly interested in matching up details with the court case, but I suppose I'd prefer it if she hadn't actually lost a baby? Same as I don't want her to actually have HD if that makes sense. Awful thing to lie about but worse to have actually experienced.

I can understand why the notes were originally posted. The #BeKind crew had been attacking this woman for days for trying to figure out if she'd been scammed (remember, it's sensory stuff people are ordering for their disabled kids' Christmas presents) and demanding evidence. They got it, it just turned out to be horrifying. Newforestsara is still encouraging people to order from Carrantha.

She's definitely seriously ill, it's easy to see where it escalated now and I hope she gets the help she obviously needs too. This has got so much bigger than I expected so I'm gonna take a step back before I cross any more lines. She has done bad things but the people who've given her money have the info they need now. I'm really sorry if I upset anyone.
you only posted here to discuss, no blame on you at all. I don’t agree with the woman on tiktok who shared it. You didn’t do anything wrong it’s ok 👌
 
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Yeah, it definitely wasn't where I expected this to go and apologise for sharing those notes. Not that it's an excuse but it is something I now recognise was probably ADHD impulse control/dopamine chasing issues that I need work on, as well as being angry at all the ableism. I certainly wasn't gleeful about the lack of baby records on Ancestry, mainly interested in matching up details with the court case, but I suppose I'd prefer it if she hadn't actually lost a baby? Same as I don't want her to actually have HD if that makes sense. Awful thing to lie about but worse to have actually experienced.

I can understand why the notes were originally posted. The #BeKind crew had been attacking this woman for days for trying to figure out if she'd been scammed (remember, it's sensory stuff people are ordering for their disabled kids' Christmas presents) and demanding evidence. They got it, it just turned out to be horrifying. Newforestsara is still encouraging people to order from Carrantha.

She's definitely seriously ill, it's easy to see where it escalated now and I hope she gets the help she obviously needs too. This has got so much bigger than I expected so I'm gonna take a step back before I cross any more lines. She has done bad things but the people who've given her money have the info they need now. I'm really sorry if I upset anyone.
Don’t apologise, fellow ADHD-er here and I would have done exactly the same! It’s not a reflection of you at all, you were just sharing what someone else shared. You certainly didn’t upset me, I was more worried that it would lead to the thread being locked or something and then where would we come to snark? 😂
 
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i just think either way she needs to be held accountabillity and needs to seek help asap i just dont want this to turn into lets not hold someone accountable because of what they have been through


of course that sounds awfully cold and unsensitive i have sympathey for her and her loss and if its made her unwell from the trauma she must deal with that however i want to aknowlodge ive spoken to a few people who have been effected by her scamming ways some are mentally distraught and feel they will never be able to trust anyone again due to having their own vunlerabillities i think there is a very thin line to be walked here between holding someone to account while not making it a witch hunt to someone whos clearly unwell


all i want is for this to be stopped and for her to seek the help she needs and not to let this pattern continue on
 
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I don’t think the notes should have posted to begin with because the notes themselves could be lies and if not I certainly didn’t need to know that info.

If she was an au pair in Ireland I hope this wakes up some people who open their homes and children up to absolute strangers, they obviously did no background checks on Lucy hart🙄

The article done on her about hd obviously didn’t bother to check if she had hd. The people and organisations she fooled really should be taking a look at themselves and how she’s managed to get away with at least 4 different aliases and differing stories.

the girl who has posted the notes is saying she’s being in contact with sams mum via email and old school friends who say she always carried a notebook to remember her lies, if that’s true then the notes she shared are probably lies too.
one thing on the notes is she says we & family alot she was in Ireland alone so I hope it was just a story
 
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Why is this Krissie woman speaking to her old school friends ? so inappropriate. Everything thinks they’re a bloody detective
shes one of the ones who have been scammed yes it may be but she just wanted to know the truth of what happened she lost a lot of money as well as feeling hurt she trusted this woman even had a zoom call with her regarding the products she was buying from her if i was her id want to know the truth
 
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There seems to be more of an update on the page where the original notes have been shared.
Yes I've seen those videos. I wish she never shared those notes and instead just made those videos.

Especially now anyone on Carrie/Samantha's side will see these videos and dismiss them because she crossed the line sharing the notes.
 
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Why is this Krissie woman speaking to her old school friends ? so inappropriate. Everyone thinks they’re a bloody detective. She said she has “so much evidence” she hasn’t posted. To what end ? what is the goal here? I understand people want refunds for orders made on her site, but this is going beyond just refunds. She’s digging so far into her life

I don’t believe everything she’s saying either. She said old school friends didn’t want to give their details as they’re so afraid 🙄 TikTok John is more than likely who she is communicating with. As for the woman who had her as an aupair she’ll be saving herself from everyone knowing she left her children with a total stranger who she didn’t bother to vet.

I would love to know the truth but I don’t really care what a 15 year old Samantha was up to or if she had/has any children. I want to know 100% if she has hd or not. My own opinion I don’t think she has any physical disability or hd and I think the people/places she’s scammed should be made aware.

some tiktokers are loving all the drama and views this is getting them.
 
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I feel this is becoming about the wrong things. The scam, people definitely need to know about. And I think that probably does include the truth about the HD diagnosis.

But this other stuff is very personal and about a real human being. While knowing this stuff provides context (if true), it’s not an excuse and won’t bring anyone the resolution they’re hoping for.

There is such a fine line between knowing enough for those who have given her money needing closure and it turning into soap opera drama. Human curiosity is powerful and I can’t blame anyone for wanting to know the whole story. But it’s veering into just for entertainment rather than the information people are ‘owed’

If anyone does choose to commission the article, it’s going to have to go through its own due diligence at that point. Regarding previous articles, all I can assume is no one thought to question that someone would lie about having HD.
 
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Peritraumatic Dissassociation:
Some posit that dissociation serves as a protective mechanism for trauma survivors by reducing conscious awareness of highly distressing emotions and pain during or immediately after the traumatic event (van der Kolk, 1987).
 
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I'm not sure that person on Twitter will ever publish something on this story now. If she was just a general grifter then I'm sure journalists would jump on it but no one is going to want to write something up on someone with this level of mental illness and possible trauma (except maybe the crappy tabloids).
 
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I knew someone who did similar, people tried to get a journalist to pick up the story but the papers didn’t want to touch it just on the off chance there was a tiny bit of truth in it. They said it wasn’t worth the risk.
 
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I've been following this for the past few days. Its interesting that those against Carantha and those supporting her have made the whole situation worse.

Viewing some of the Tiktokers, a lot of them seem to think they have a responsibility to be involved, when in actual fact they should really have stayed out of the situation. You have some people actively telling others to buy her stuff and others waving their pitchforks out. Its amazing how dramatic some of the videos are.

I get why some people just want to find out the truth, but they are really messing around with someones mental health.

NewforestSara said that the "lobby group" behind the airbnb guests was the same lobby group that supported the bakers v gay couple. Saying things like that without any proof just causes more harm.

As for Samantha Cookes herself, I just feel she needs support. Its hard to know what the actual truth is, what triggered this chain of events that has meant she has ended up in the middle of this fiasco. But she really does need the help of professionals.
 
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What I'm really curious about now is how she bought the airbnb house and what name it's under. Can you get a mortgage when you're terminally ill? Do we reckon she saved up enough to buy outright? Aren't house prices in Ireland even worse than the UK?
ETA maybe some inheritance from her dad but dude had four kids and the family don't seem to be millionaires or anything. Would be interesting to see what names are beneficiaries on his Will but I'm not paying for a copy 😅
 
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