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Rockin' Robin

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I lost interest in the franchise, when Danial Craig took over the role of Bond. The films have changed with the times, and not for the better. They should end the franchise now.
 
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Mark81

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I lost interest in the franchise, when Danial Craig took over the role of Bond. The films have changed with the times, and not for the better. They should end the franchise now.
I kind of agree, I really liked Daniel Craig as Bond but none of the movies had a particular strong story, bond girls were mostly bland models with no character or screen presence. They often seemed to go back to more damsel in distress stereotype which seemed odd for modern times. The villains were also quite weak. I also think trying to link every film by one over arching story backfired.
 
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Mark81

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StephenTJackson

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I think Barbara Broccoli has said Bond will never be played by a woman. I just don't get calls for a female Bond. Make a completely new character if you want a female MI6 action star.

We had a female 007 in NTTD.

As for Craig he did have some of the worst movies in the franchise but he also had some of the best IMO. Casino Royal and Skyfall are fabulous. Quantum of Solace is an absolute shocker but it's still not as bad No Time To Die. What an absolute travesty of a film that is. Apparently it was part of Craig's return that Bond was killed off to finish his arc :rolleyes: . Arrogant twat. A franchise and character that been around for decades with several actors and he thinks he should be able to kill the character. I can't believe Broccoli and Wilson went with that.
What's bizarre about the killing Bond idea, was Danny Boyle left as Director because they said he couldn't do that. And then they did.

And I bet Danny Boyle would've done a better job of it that what actually happened.

Whatever the reboot is, I really hope they rest the whole Spectre/Blofeld stuff. It's tired and dated. And so overdone. The retconning of Spectre into being behind everything was painful just because they got the Spectre rights back.
 
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Mark81

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I liked Richard Madden in GOT and Bodyguard but since then I don't think he has been particularly good. Priyanka Chopra is a terrible actress too so the pair together in Citadel don't help eachother.

At least Keanu Reeves has a cool laidback charisma about him
 
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FenellaTheWitch

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I have always followed Bond but I absolutely hated what they did with NTTD. Everything about it annoyed me and the arrogance of DC to think he could
kill off Bond
was just incredible. Bond to me is like an old stately home. You don't own it, you are just the current custodian.

In order to recover from NTTD they have no option to go really quite young with new Bond because they have to make it different.

( Sean Connery was 32 and George Lazenby was 29 when they became Bond, so it's not a new concept ... it's just people in the 60's always looked like they were 40 🤣 )
 
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FenellaTheWitch

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Watching The Gentlemen on Netflix and Theo James would make a great Bond.
I first saw him in The Inbetweeners movie and Downton. I do like him. 39 is probably the optimum age for Bond but I have no idea what the producers will do next. I'm still furious about the ending of NTTD.


For anyone who likes Bond there is a documentary film thing called The Other Fellow which is all about people whose real name is James Bond and the trouble it's got them into.
 
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FenellaTheWitch

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For all Daniel Craig was a great Bond, he only had 2 genuinely great films in Casino Royale and Skyfall. Not many big budget, dark, action films could basically do Home Alone as your third act and make it work.

NTTD had a good idea, but was poorly executed. Phoebe Waller-Bridge gave me hope of more humour in the script, was still lacking. And the editor/writer/director that didn't cut/rewrite the scene at the end where M and the others toasted to Bond - what a clunky awful scene that was.

Spectre just was doing gymnastics to integrate Spectre back into the franchise after getting the rights back. Completely stupid.

QoS, writers strike, ruined that before it even started.

My thoughts exactly. I was so thrilled after Casino Royal came out. I really thought we'd struck gold with Craig.

As for NTTD, they lost me the minute it was obvious Bond had a child. No, no, no, no. Absolutely not. Then they killed him and I was done.
 
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Calmyourtitsdown

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I’m of The Inbetweeners generation…. So as much as I’ve tried, I can’t and never will be able to watch Theo James without thinking about 💩 hanging out of his nose.
And for that reason, I can’t have him playing the role of one of my favourite film characters.
 
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Mark81

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The bond girls all seemed to be quite bland in the Craig era too. All looked like European models and lacked character.
 
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FenellaTheWitch

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Oddly enough quantum of solace is one of the Craig films I enjoy haha
That's just weird 🤣

Roger Moore was actually my Bond growing up and I've enjoyed Bond for years. I actually loved Timothy Dalton's Bond so Craig was a good choice for me.
 
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FenellaTheWitch

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I think Barbara Broccoli has said Bond will never be played by a woman. I just don't get calls for a female Bond. Make a completely new character if you want a female MI6 action star.

We had a female 007 in NTTD.

As for Craig he did have some of the worst movies in the franchise but he also had some of the best IMO. Casino Royal and Skyfall are fabulous. Quantum of Solace is an absolute shocker but it's still not as bad No Time To Die. What an absolute travesty of a film that is. Apparently it was part of Craig's return that Bond was killed off to finish his arc :rolleyes: . Arrogant twat. A franchise and character that been around for decades with several actors and he thinks he should be able to kill the character. I can't believe Broccoli and Wilson went with that.
 
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StephenTJackson

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They want an actor who is going to be able to do 4/5 films or something. So realistically they want an actor who is going to be physically capable of doing 20 years of Bond without ending up like Craig who was fucked by the end of his run.

So nobody over 35 as a guarantee pretty much.
 
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FenellaTheWitch

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Hmmm ... Just started watching Slow Horses. Jack Lowden has potential. I saw him recently in 'Gold' too. The Bond producers usually like someone with experience but not too well known.
 
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coconochanel

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Who would you like to see play the new James Bond?

Personally if they are sticking with the same age range as Daniel Craig I think Jason Issacs would make a good Bond.
 
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FenellaTheWitch

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The bond girls all seemed to be quite bland in the Craig era too. All looked like European models and lacked character.
Apart from Eva Green I would agree with that, especially with Dr Madeleine Swann. Dreary as can be and yet she is the one who was supposed to be the love of his life who he had a child with. Load of bollocks and Tracy never got a mention once during the Craig era. The whole thing ended up a mess. Let's resurrect some of the old stuff like Spectre and Blofeld but we'll forget all about Bond getting married and his wife murdered.

I can rant all day long about the Craig era and especially No Time To Die. They even killed Leiter for gods sake. They really went all out to destroy the franchise. I could even understand it more if the producers had said this is the final Bond film and we will not be making anymore, ever again. They haven't though. They want to carry on. How they plan to do that, I haven't a clue.

Can you tell I'm not a happy Bond fan? 🤣
 
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zcfthc5

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I just want new Bond to not look like the father of the new Bond girl. #BondWoman
 
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FenellaTheWitch

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I'm surprised they have handed it over to Amazon

I feel like James bond is over for me now, I have no faith that amazon will look after the franchise

That's sad but unsurprising. Michael is 83 and wants to retire and I guess Barbara hasn't got the energy or will to fight Amazon every step of the way with every decision.

Maybe it's best my James Bond died at the end of No Time To Die after all.

Amazon are just going to flog it to death.
 
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