Stephen Fry

[MargotMoony]

Stolen from the Harry Potter thread. (Not trying to debate the trans issue, there's already a thread for that) But I can believe it's about Fry. How petty and childish. He fully expected his mate to get him the part of Dumbledore and when she didn't he decided to turn on her

 

[Sideboard Bob]

Here's an old article about a play he wrote himself (Latin! Or Tobacco and Boys), though unfortunately by Johann Hari so we can't be sure if he even read the script.

That was not an easy read, due to the topic. And I’m no fan of Hari, but fair play to him, he called out that abusive behaviour.

Fry’s play sounds horrific.

What I also got from that article is how dodgy Alan Bennett is. Why don’t people talk about this?

The Bennett stuff behind a spoiler, TW, child abuse

Spoiler

”Hector” here is a character from Bennett’s The History Boys, who is a 50-something teacher.

 

[Hackneybird]

From the article -
“Why are so many of Stephen Fry's heroes men who raped boys and who wrote at length about their pedophilic fantasies? Why does Fry also focus on adult/child sex in his plays and books?

Malcolm Clark @TwisterFilm has an enlightening thread on the subject:



"1./ Stephen Fry and Britain's Failure to Take Child Abuse Seriously. Our headlines are dominated by the scandal of institutions that refused to protect girls for fear of seeming "racist". My latest article suggests Stephen Fry's knighthood is from the same copybook.
1/of 21"

"2./ In a society that took child abuse seriously Stephen Fry's long track record of minimising child sexual exploitation would have disbarred him from the nation's top honour. In Fry's first play 'Latin' an adult teacher sexually abuses a 13 year old boy and takes him to Morocco."

"3./ The boy writes back to his schoolmates praising the country which he claims takes a relaxed attitude to sex between men and underage boys. They petition to visit. Fry's interest in adolescent boys continues in 'Hippopotamus' in which a 15 year old has sex with adults."

 

[maytoseptember]

Bloody love Rik! He was such a funny guy and still sadly missed

I was so heartbroken when Rik died.

Every now and again one of his mad (and hilarious) letters to fans will resurface, and you can hear his voice as you read them. Mainly things like “you BASTARD!”

 

[Sea]

Can not stand him, there's something nasty about him. He's not a national treasure, he's a pompous posh boy

 

[VeniVidiVicki]

The entertainment industry really is a place where predatory gay men protect one another isn’t it?

 

[Doll Parts]

Glad I'm not the only one who can't stand him, the smug misogynist bastard. Didn't he sort of defend paedophilia once too?

Actually, I think it's this I'm thinking of: https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...comments-abuse-victims-self-pity-charity-mind

 

[mammaof3]

Father and son. Sir Stephen and Elliot.

http://archive.today/fGtvb

 

[GrunkaLunka]

They hide in plain sight. Disgusting old man.

 

[Metropolis]

This is from 2013, where the BBC Trust described an incident where Fry recited a limerick about p@edophilia on QI as ‘regrettable’. His constant references to sex with underage boys going back to his first play Latin! in 1979 is a huge red flag which is continually swept under the carpet.

Stephen Fry paedophilia limerick on QI 'unfortunate and regrettable' …

archived 12 May 2025 06:58:38 UTC

archive.ph

 

[Blurp]

I can't stand the man and haven't ever been able to, even at the time of Fry & Laurie with Hugh Laurie. He seems to love himself too much and be totally devoid of humility. His pompous and condescending voice makes me want to throw something.

 

[MargotMoony]

I'm so glad this is a thread, I used to be a fan till I read his autobiography and found him a massively self absorbed arse, "I'm so much smarter than the average person" bore off. Seeing he's getting a knighthood, urgh of course he bloody is, how do people not see through it all

 

[Sour Pickle]

Unlike many on the thread, I used to really like Stephen Fry. I thought he was warm, engaging, really intelligent. I started to hear on his views on women and have come full circle. I was so disappointed when he did the interludes on the album of a band I love recently, always, always skip them as he sets my teeth on edge now.

 

[Chocolategoggler]

I have mixed feelings about this. He's not wrong about Stephen Fry and the minimisation of child abuse, however the 'tradition of homosexual intellectuals glorifying pederasty' is a pretty homophobic framing of that argument. His language is especially concerning now that the hateful 'gay men are groomers' rhetoric has made a comeback. It's true that there are gay public figures who disregarded or condoned child abuse. There were/are prominent straight people who did the same. I don't know anything about Malcolm Clark but I'd question his motives in bringing this up.

That said, nothing he's listed is wrong and it's really important to make people aware of Stephen Fry's history of dismissive comments about SA.

Unlike some other posters here, I used to really have a soft spot for Stephen Fry. I was very young when I used to watch his tv things with my family so maybe I was just easily impressed back then. My mind started to change when he made that awful statement about abuse survivors (while he was president of Mind). It was so...lacking in empathy, it was actually shocking that someone would not only think that but say it out loud. Then I learned more about his writing and how often he jokes about p********** (don't know if that word is censored by tattle). Continual joking about that subject matter is a massive red flag imo. I mean, how does he think survivors feel when they hear someone making light of their experiences?

As for his much younger boyfriends - I just feel sorry for his ex. I forget his name, but they were together a long time and apparently he was extremely upset after they split. He couldn't believe Stephen would abandon him suddenly for a much younger man. Poor guy.

Public school boys in past decades seemed to lack empathy and were quite hard. Being packed off to boarding school at 7 and no one listening to you when you say you don't want to go, plus the sexual abuse some public schoolers endured can turn out some quite callous people.

 

[MargotMoony]

Stephen Fry confirmed for Celebrity Traitors, urgh. Can't wait to see him lording about thinking he's too smart to be fooled by the traitors. I PRAY he's not a traitor, I won't cope with his smug faux intelligence thinking he's one step ahead of everyone

 

[VC10]

Never been a fan , think he's an oddball. Bet hes a right old ' luvvie' . With all the money he's got, why wouldn't he fix his wonky nose it looks bloody stupid. Think he thinks it makes him look endearing, or something. It doesn't.

 

[Winthropp Tuesday]

Over on the Huw Edwards thread there’s a lot of discussion about Stephen Fry at the moment, link to look at the chat so far: https://tattle.life/threads/huw-edwards-15.46259/

Here’s a thread to carry on discussing him for anyone interested…

 

[WeTalkAboutBruno]

This thread is interesting for me (heaven forbid we dare go off topic though ) because I'm a big fan of Stephen Fry and he has always been quite open with his struggles. I know that he has gone AWOL on occasion but I've always put that down to his mental health. Curious to see why people have the views that they do - yes, the marriage is creepy!

 

[VeniVidiVicki]

I have mixed feelings about this. He's not wrong about Stephen Fry and the minimisation of child abuse, however the 'tradition of homosexual intellectuals glorifying pederasty' is a pretty homophobic framing of that argument. His language is especially concerning now that the hateful 'gay men are groomers' rhetoric has made a comeback. It's true that there are gay public figures who disregarded or condoned child abuse. There were/are prominent straight people who did the same. I don't know anything about Malcolm Clark but I'd question his motives in bringing this up.

That said, nothing he's listed is wrong and it's really important to make people aware of Stephen Fry's history of dismissive comments about SA.

Unlike some other posters here, I used to really have a soft spot for Stephen Fry. I was very young when I used to watch his tv things with my family so maybe I was just easily impressed back then. My mind started to change when he made that awful statement about abuse survivors (while he was president of Mind). It was so...lacking in empathy, it was actually shocking that someone would not only think that but say it out loud. Then I learned more about his writing and how often he jokes about p********** (don't know if that word is censored by tattle). Continual joking about that subject matter is a massive red flag imo. I mean, how does he think survivors feel when they hear someone making light of their experiences?

As for his much younger boyfriends - I just feel sorry for his ex. I forget his name, but they were together a long time and apparently he was extremely upset after they split. He couldn't believe Stephen would abandon him suddenly for a much younger man. Poor guy.

Malcolm is a gay man who hates the way homosexuality has become linked with all things kink and queer of late. He’s a documentary maker.

His motives are to demonstrate that most gay men don’t condone Fry’s casual dismissal of SA

 

[TheStrawberryThief]

Tbh I did like him as well.

In this modern era, it is so easy for celebrities to overshare everything about their life. Any embarrassing thing they do or say is now recorded for ever and easy to find with a quick Google.

So sometimes, I think we just start to see all these sides to someone we would never have been aware of a decade ago, and then something just starts to not feel right.

I used to really believe everything Jack Monro said, but then I started to notice little things like...the recipes in her books not being very good ( I thought that maybe that one book was not for me, but each book I bought seemed worse), her stories did not always ring true or contradicted something she had said before and she always seemed to have a story/opinion that related to a topical issue ( the DV, being trans for a week, supposedly working in a brothel, having a DSD), and one day I just cracked and typed something like ' jack Monroe anti rant' into Google and I came here.

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Btw I told my sister about the women don't like sex, if they did they would shag random men in graveyards.... thing and she said " does he like sex? Does he do that?" She then walked about the kitchen chanting " Graveyard Ste! Graveyard Ste!"