Selena Gomez

[Yupyupyup]

Justin & Selena's relationship happened naturally whereas Hailey's was all based on spying/stalking he basically married a fan

Regardless of that she still doesn’t deserve to be getting called weird every few seconds on tiktok. I don’t pitty her for the relationship she’s in but no matter what kind of person she is no one deserves to be dog piled over something that is still purely based on speculation and people thinking they’re oh so smart tiktok detectives.
Selena is the oldest of all of them, she easily could defuse a lot of this but is just sitting back playing the victim and letting the follower count and praise increase. She’s no angel.

 

[Folkevermore]

Justin & Selena's relationship happened naturally whereas Hailey's was all based on spying/stalking he basically married a fan

He did. Their whole relationship is weird to be honest, I don’t get the vibe they’re that into each other.
I don’t think Selenas actions are reasonable at all, but the people who are acting like hailey is some angelic child is bizarre.
She’s a 26 year old woman who acts like a mean girl, is rude to fans and treats hospitality staff like crap. saying Selenas oldest when comparing a 30 year old and a 26 year old is completely redundant - we all have fully developed pre-frontal cortexes by those ages. People are acting like Selena is 40 and Hailey is 13, they way they keep going on about Selenas age.
Her eyebrow video was clearly mocking Selena too, and she’s made many videos with very “coincidental” timings in the past.
It’s the typical kind of bullying you see in mean girls in high school who do it subtly and then act all innocent because technically you can prove it.

 

[Yupyupyup]

He did. Their whole relationship is weird to be honest, I don’t get the vibe they’re that into each other.
I don’t think Selenas actions are reasonable at all, but the people who are acting like hailey is some angelic child is bizarre.
She’s a 26 year old woman who acts like a mean girl, is rude to fans and treats hospitality staff like crap.
Her eyebrow video was clearly mocking Selena too, and she’s made many videos with very “coincidental” timings in the past.
It’s the typical kind of bullying you see in mean girls in high school who do it subtly and then act all innocent because technically you can prove it.

Not a single person is saying Hailey is an angel, no one involved in this is an angel.

 

[Folkevermore]

Not a single person is saying Hailey is an angel, no one involved in this is an angel.

Yet you keep mentioning Selenas age if Hailey is a child, as if her age makes her so much more innocent.
Everyone involved is a fully grown adult so keep mentioning Selena being older (26 vs 30 isn’t much difference) is kind of bizarre

 

[GrilledCheese]

To be fair she has told people to stop hating on Hailey a couple times in the past ..and Hailey caused all the recent issues by posting that video and laughing at her for no reason.

If I was in Selena's shoes I wouldn't be rushing to defend my ex's wife (who he most likely cheated on her with). Justin should be sticking up for Hailey but he's choosing not to

 

[Yupyupyup]

Yet you keep mentioning Selenas age if Hailey is a child, as if her age makes her so much more innocent.
Everyone involved is a fully grown adult so keep mentioning Selena being older (26 vs 30 isn’t much difference) is kind of bizarre

We’ll have to agree to disagree on that not being much different because personally I think it’s night and day how different those ages are and what your mental maturity goes through in your late 20s.

Regardless of that, they’re all acting like children. Selena has a track record of wanting to come across as the victim and the “bigger person” and yet loves to add fuel to the fire.

If it was a few thousand people hating on Hailey, of course why would Selena say anything because at the end of the day it is her exs wife. However, this is millions of people piling on this girl and Selena herself added to the drama by commenting on tiktoks insinuating that those girls were nasty to her. If they have been nasty, by all means she could post the proof of it all and that be it but she doesn’t have any proof and neither does anyone else. A coincidence isn’t set in stone fact no matter how coincidental you think it may be.

Do I think Hailey and Kylie were taking the piss out of Selenas brows? Probably. Can I prove that as fact? No. So I’m not going to call her an weird unloved bleep like the rest of the internet.

No one is an angel, but Selena could curve a lot of this and is choosing not to.

 

[GrilledCheese]

Hailey age 30 will still be watching Selena's every move and witching about her any chance she gets

 

[Folkevermore]

We’ll have to agree to disagree on that not being much different because personally I think it’s night and day how different those ages are and what your mental maturity goes through in your late 20s..

As a 30 year old this statement has been completely untrue for me and all of my friends. By 26 we all had careers and places of our own, some were already married and had kids. We were already fully grown adults.
Maybe there’s some people who are still childish at 26 but I don’t think it’s the norm, especially not in Hollywood we’re people are forced to grow up quicker than they need to.
If she’s still not fully grown at 26 then what is she doing being a married woman?
It just seems you’re using age here to make it seem like Selena is worse than hailey when they’re just as bad as each other

 

[Merpedy]

I lowkey don't blame Hailey for possibly answering certain posts by Selena because it's just petty behaviour. This isn't exactly a normal situation where you can block/ignore the person and what they're doing because you have a bunch of minions and media constantly reminding you that this is going on, so taking the 'high road' requires a lot more energy

From what I understand, Selena has had problems with many women over Justin which is concerning

 

[Yupyupyup]

She’s commented beating around the bush asking her fans to “be kinder” but not going into specifics as per.

 

[Lorelai heart]

Selena is very passive aggressive. I like her but i can’t help feel she’s secretly enjoying all the hate Hailey is getting hence why she’s not prepared to explicitly call out the people in attack mode on her behalf (some of whom she follows) and instead puts out a hollow “please be kind” statement in its place.

I don’t care what anyone thinks of Hailey (personally i’m indifferent to her) but you can’t deny the amount of hate and harassment she’s received in the past few weeks has been vile.

 

[whatstheteab]

The fact that it’s grown adults chanting this

 

[account70032]

Selena and Hailey are jealous of each other in different ways. Hailey has clearly always been jealous of Selenas career , history with Justin and popularity. A lot of people are obsessed with Selena because they grew up watching her but not just that they’ve fallen for the perfect nice girl image her PR team have painted of Selena so therefore they constantly jump to Selenas defence and never make Selena take accountability for problems she causes. This had given Selena a lot of popularity so any business she has or tv show will automatically be successful. Rare beauty is a good brand as I’ve only ever heard great things about the quality of products but also the fact it’s Selenas brand it already had a high chance of being successful and Hailey knows this so it doesn’t matter if Hailey is trying to sell the best product in the world she knows she doesn’t have the same fame and fan base Selena has which probably plays a part in her jealousy.

I think Justin and Selenas past definitely causes Hailey insecurity but at the same time she knew getting engaged to him 2 months after he had been all over Selena was a red flag and anyone with sense would not of got engaged that quick until you are sure someone is over their ex but Hailey wanted him she that was desperate. Hailey seems lost as a person like she doesn’t know what to be doing and seems insecure at times which may be while she’s done shady things over the years which I’m not making excuses for cause it is weird but all I see is an insecure woman but she doesn’t deserve the hate she’s getting it’s too much and shame on Selena for encouraging it and putting a stop to it. Selena started this a lot of this hate by commenting on TikTok’s about Hailey and agreeing with the hate against her. Hailey is no angel I think she also has a sly streak and I think there have been times she’s said things to hurt Selena but the hate towards her is pointless now but it’s like Selena enjoys people hating on Justin and Hailey.

Selena is jealous that Hailey got the happy ending with Justin getting engaged , married and got the man that she wanted and believed she would end up with. I know Selena has had her health issues and for that I feel for her but those health issues are not an excuse for her toxic manipulative behaviour and jealousy all these years. She’s not over Justin it’s like her ego won’t let her get over it cause it’s like if she’s not happy in her life she doesn’t want him and Hailey to be happy either. I get that in 2018 he may of led Selena on but it’s been 5 years and there’s no point dwelling on the past when he’s married now.

It’s obvious from evidence Justin and Hailey were speaking behind Selenas back in 2017/2018 so it makes sense another reason why Selena doesn’t like Hailey but the blame for that should be on Justin he’s the one who played different women he’s the one who owed her loyalty and he’s the one who hurt for and left her for Hailey so if anything she should have a problem with just him but it’s like she only takes out her jealousy and anger on Hailey. she should learn to let these problems go and be happy in her life.

There’s been many articles when Justin got married about how Selena was shocked as she thought he would marry her and that she had a breakdown about it. She hasn’t been the same since cause she isn’t over Justin but I find it weird now cause she needs to get over it cause he’s not worth getting depressed over. I think selena has a mean streak in her which sometimes can be looked over by how friendly she can come across. I get that if someone makes TikToks or says something shady about you of course you have the right to feel bothered by it and want to defend yourself and if the eyebrow thing Kylie and hailey posted was towards selena then that is childish of them and if the TikTok Hailey made with her friends was about selena that’s also childish and bullying which there’s no need for.

I just think Selena saw an opportunity to make this situation way worse for Hailey by getting more hate sent her way. If I were selena I would delete social media and live a more private life. As for Hailey I think she would be better learning to be her own person. They both need to stop putting things out there that could easily be perceived as bullying or hate for eachother. Selena needs help mentally for her insecurities. Neither of them are innocent and sometimes one is more in the wrong than the other.

 

[Kiwi_Paddy]

They are both still acting like teenagers. Selena needs to move on and maybe Hailey needs to be in a healthier relationship.

This is what Hailey ordered as a party favour for Justin’s birthday party last weekend. People who are meant to be in healthy, loving relationships aren’t usually this petty.

 

[Fuzzyslippers22]

As someone who is a bit older than Selena and didn't grow up with her, and that didn't know Hailey as anyone but Justin's wife... Justin certainly isn't being held accountable, my speculation is that he makes Hailey feel insecure and so she subconsciously or consciously copies Selena (thinking its discrete) to improve their relationship. That or she's just a huge fan of Selena and fans copy who they idolise. Just usually the fan isn't famous too

I don't do bullying. And seeing this pathetic behaviour online is triggering back to school, so to an extend I understand why people are unfollowing Kylie and Hailey. However, I don't do name calling (weird, large, bleep etc). Use the actual word to describe their behaviour or just unfollow to make a stand. These girls are so obsessed with follower count, that's where to hurt them.

 

[redstraw16]

The fact that it’s grown adults chanting this

I don’t care for Hailey, but the internet/people really do just decide to dogpile on a new woman every few months.

is there a Bieber/Hailey thread?

BOTH sides are petty asf imo, there isn’t really a side I even want to be on, both just seem like 15 years olds fighting over the new boy at school.

 

[TalkOfTheGram]

I was a MASSIVE Bieber girlie back in the day, but couldn't take to any of the Disney stars like Miley, Demi or Selena so never followed them despite them being constantly shoved down everyone's throats. I've never understood the Selena hype because to me she's a terrible singer. She's always come across as sickly sweet and trying to hard ro be perfect. Her and justin seemed like an odd couple at the time but I guess being older now and looking back it's easy to see that they were 2 young very famous people in probably their 1st serious(ish) relationship.
Justin needs to tell people to leave Hailey alone, it's his wife after all. Selena needs to stop adding fuel to the fire, tell her fans to leave both Justin and Hailey alone and then not comment on anything further. And Hailey probably needs to leave Justin and find out who she is herself, and stop doing petty things on the Internet. That sort of stuff is for a group chat or private friends only accounts.
I think in different ways they are all loving the attention this brings them. Hailey probably thinks she has 'won' because she's married to Justin after very clearly being a fan and him choosing her over Selena. While Selena probably can't accept he quickly married her and thought/hoped the marriage would be over by now.
The entire thing is embarrassing, they are all adults. Imagine people where you lived behaved like this.

 

[Yupyupyup]

is there a Bieber/Hailey thread?

From what I search I don’t think there is, although it might be a better idea to keep it in here since the only time they ever do something worth talking about usually involves Selena so there would be a lot of thread crossover

 

[Yupyupyup]

This twitter thread is absolutely biased in ever sense of the word, but it’s still very telling how twisted and misconstrued the hate to Hailey Bieber is from this timeline.
My main take aways from this are:
-Selena is better left offline, if she refuses to accept that her shadiness causes her fans to be absolutely feral then she needs to stop online interaction.
-She really needs to get over Justin lmao
-Damn they all got around a lot

 

[GrilledCheese]

This twitter thread is absolutely biased in ever sense of the word, but it’s still very telling how twisted and misconstrued the hate to Hailey Bieber is from this timeline.
My main take aways from this are:
-Selena is better left offline, if she refuses to accept that her shadiness causes her fans to be absolutely feral then she needs to stop online interaction.
-She really needs to get over Justin lmao
-Damn they all got around a lot

It also fails to mention Justin was dating Selena around the time a lot of it happened and was known to cheat. Don't blame her for sticking up for herself tbh