Selena Gomez

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All Selenas fans are hating on Hailey for her appearance and the work she’s had done on her face and body saying she isn’t naturally beautiful etc but thing is Selena has had a lot of work done to her face too but they keep saying how natural she is when she isn’t. If people want to get work done that’s their choice so that’s not the issue but people who refuse to see Selena has had work done are in denial and shouldn’t be hating on one person for something that selena has also done.

it’s also crazy to me that a situation like this which is just drama can get so much attention compared to things that actually really matter in the world.
 
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Double post but it’s been playing on my mind how funny it is that the public narrative of Selena has completely shifted in a short amount of time. Her doc came out and (at least on my end) the vast majority of the public were shunning her because of the donor drama, and then coincidentally a few months later all this stuff resurfaces of Hailey Bieber and the Jenners being mean girls against Selena and Selena is oh so the victim. Very convenient timing :unsure: 😂

To be fair I think they’re all mean girls, Selena included. Not a single one of these women act their age!
and the hate Hailey gets for this is so unproportionally big and based on a couple of tiktok videos…people are sheep…in a couple of months there will be a buzzfeed article or something like that, that Hailey didn’t deserve all this hate and the whole thing will start again 🤣🤣
 
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It's so gross Selena says she is anti bullying but bullies Hailey and encourages it. Maybe her friends are onto something and she shouldn't have social media on her phone.

I'm glad to see other people see it's actually Selena obsessed. Hailey gets hate for no reason.
 
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I’ve been pretty put off by her since her doc, she seems like a mean girl. Rumour on the street is that she was trying to make a song with that Chainsmokers guy (the one she was seen with a few times but denied dating this(??) year) but she was too high and drunk to make anything of note and started coming on to the producer. Called him up a few days later to apologise, asked him to go bowling and magically there were paps there and she was drunk again. This girl really has the best PR in the game honestly, they’d have you believe she’s an angel
 
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I’ve been pretty put off by her since her doc, she seems like a mean girl. Rumour on the street is that she was trying to make a song with that Chainsmokers guy (the one she was seen with a few times but denied dating this(??) year) but she was too high and drunk to make anything of note and started coming on to the producer. Called him up a few days later to apologise, asked him to go bowling and magically there were paps there and she was drunk again. This girl really has the best PR in the game honestly, they’d have you believe she’s an angel
It makes me now think of the times she’s come across nice and genuine was that just an act. Yeah her documentary I thought she came across quite rude at times and playing the victim a lot. I get that everyone no matter how rich you are we all have things we battle with and go through hard times including Selena but she sometimes she sounds like moaning about first world problems and it doesn’t make her come across well.

That rumour with the chainsmokers guy and her allegedly coming on to the producer that wouldn’t surprise me at all if it’s true. A few years ago there was a rumour that Selena was messaging and slept with Justin Theroux right after him and Jennifer Anniston split up and Selena and Jennifer were supposed to be great friends apparently and somehow Selena was able to convince Jennifer that didn’t happen so Jennifer believed her and they’re still friends. Yeah there’s a possibility Selena was being honest but I wouldn’t be surprised if her and Justin Theroux agreed to keep it secret cause Selena does have a sly streak. Apparently her friend Francia who gave her the kidney got mad at her for drinking a lot and that’s what made their friendship not be the same anymore. To be honest there have been videos/ clips of instagram lives of Selena were she looks and sounds tipsy /drunk and thing is if she wants to drink that’s her choice I get that but I wonder if she drinks to distract herself from how unhappy she is cause I think this whole “oh I’m so happy and so happy being single” is very forced by her. She seems quite bitter even all these years later she isn’t able to move on from the Justin situation.

I understand she’s had mental problems and I’m not judging if she does have a drinking problem cause sadly many people do but I think she takes out her unhappiness on other people. She has the best PR you’re right they always make her look innocent like an angel and everyone else is to blame. For some reason she decided to be active on social media which was a mistake running her account herself and commenting all these things for drama and attention and I think she got a bit addicted to social media the last few months cause some of the things she posts her behaviour is weird. If she’s still like this 5 years after Justin got married then what will she be like if Hailey ends up having a baby? Will she have a break down or do something to cause more drama for attention. Justin is not perfect either maybe he led her on it does look that way but whatever happened it didn’t end well between them but I don’t know what Selena is expecting from him it’s been years he’s married whether it’s a real happy marriage or not she has to get over it and move on cause something is not right about mental state lately with how she acts. I’m telling you this whole situation will still be going on in 10 years time I’ll be shocked if Selena ever let’s it go.
 
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I kind of wonder if she is still getting drunk all the time or if her medicine needs adjusting. I looked at even more post and things she has said and it's almost as bad as Britney Spears. She says such weird things that contradict each other.

Also, I don't understand how her fans think underage Hailey posting silly things = her stalking her as a grown ass married adult. I do think Hailey and Justin most likely check up on her because normal people do the same thing. Selena is the only one continuing to post about the situation. The funny thing is her fans are claiming Hailey copied Selena but then you look at the actual dates and it was Selena copying.


I have so much more to say but this is already a long post. Plus I'm cringing at myself getting invested in this lol.
 
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I read multiple times years ago that she had to have the transplant from Francia because she had ruined her body with alcohol and drugs, so Selena drinking again afterwards made Francia upset and angry.
 
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I cringe at myself getting invested in this whole thing too and just seeing the whole world obsess over it but I think that’s what I find the most bizarre that this drama is never ending there’s always something new and I don’t get why it never stops all these years. If you try avoid it on social media people still bring it up and Selena needs to take accountability for that she literally started some drama and then decides to disappear playing the victim knowing her fans would go crazy and knowing people would receive hate for it which makes me think she enjoys all this. I honestly don’t think she’s well mentally at all because this behaviour from her at her age is an embarrassment and knowing what she’s like by the time she’s 50 she’ll probably still be acting the same way not over Justin. As long as someone keeps her off social media and away from her phone maybe the world can go back to talking about things of actual importance.
 
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Thank goodness for the thread.

I know sod all about either of them but my tiktok fyp is blowing up and it's 99.9% team selena and it actually scares me how much hate there is for Hailey. From what I see Hailey may have done a few aimed petty tiktoks recently BUT the whole time she's been with JB , jelena stans have just been tearing the woman down, it seems to me like she finally bit back a little and now somehow the Jelena stans have taken over the world with their views and everyone is jumping on their team even people I see as intelligent rational beings. I really do fear for hailey
 
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“Kill em with kindness” but she doesn’t have the kindness in her heart to make a statement to her fans to stop pulling apart the appearance of Hailey over an alleged tiktok about her and instead just adds fuel to the fire? Hailey is quite literally being dragged through the mud and bullied right now and it’s all people doing it in Selenas defence. All it would take for a lot of them to back off would be a post from Selena saying it’s all out of hand and no one should be bullying Hailey over this. People are draggin up pictures of her as a young teenager and basically calling her weird for christ sake, and we wonder why young women are so insecure that they feel the need to get all these surgeries!
Don’t really care for or follow any of the girls involved, but Selena needs to step up here and SPECIFICALLY (no name avoid or beating around the bush) call out what’s happening here and put a stop to it.
 
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“Kill em with kindness” but she doesn’t have the kindness in her heart to make a statement to her fans to stop pulling apart the appearance of Hailey over an alleged tiktok about her and instead just adds fuel to the fire? Hailey is quite literally being dragged through the mud and bullied right now and it’s all people doing it in Selenas defence. All it would take for a lot of them to back off would be a post from Selena saying it’s all out of hand and no one should be bullying Hailey over this. People are draggin up pictures of her as a young teenager and basically calling her weird for christ sake, and we wonder why young women are so insecure that they feel the need to get all these surgeries!
Don’t really care for or follow any of the girls involved, but Selena needs to step up here and SPECIFICALLY (no name avoid or beating around the bush) call out what’s happening here and put a stop to it.
I agree. I think they all need to grow up though. Selena does have a responsibility as a mental health ambassador to call out this disgusting behaviour and set an example. I have relatives with bipolar and it’s not an excuse to be an mole and you have to continually check yourself and it’s advisable to avoid social media if you’re having a rough time as you may act out of character and cause unnecessary drama for yourself and others. It’s not fair, but it’s life, and when you have a huge following and audience you need to use it to set a good example and stamp out bullying and all this childish mean girl tit
 
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Idk I feel vaguely uncomfortable watching this play out because it seems kind of clear to me that Selena is having some sort of mental health crisis or health crisis. I’m sure she’s hated Hailey this whole time and tit talked her to her friends, etc., but for years she’s kept a very ‘media trained’ attitude about it and not spoken on anything and appeared ~above it all~. Seeing her randomly go off the rails on social media after all these years— and the weird TikToks and comments… something is off with her and it’s not normal behaviour.

I never cared much for Selena but during the pandemic and a bit before that, she really seemed to have grown up and had found a niche— her company, doing some campaigning for the election and some other issues and actually coming off pretty informed and capable, etc. Like I said, I’ve never been a fan but was actually impressed by her. Idk what happened this year but I wouldn’t be surprised if addiction issues have resurfaced. I find it all to be sad.
 
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Team Selena 🙌 sorry but Hailey comes off as a bit weird. That video of her dming fans so she could turn up to the same places as Justin gives stalker vibes
 
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Even if that's true does it give the world permission to pile on?
I would have more sympathy for hailey if she didn’t come across as such a raging witch tbh. Every story I’ve ever seen of someone meeting her has said she’s incredibly rude. That video of her pretending to throw up at the sound of Taylor swifts name is purely pathetic behaviour for a fully grown adult.

I do also think her “coincidental posts” that coincide with things Selena has said happen way to often for it to actually be a coincidence.

They both need to grow up but I don’t think Haley is any better than Selena
 
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I don’t really believe any of the sheep that have picked a side in this petty drama because they’ll be the first people to shun everyone for taking side and perpetuating the drama if something awful happens like either party offing themselves.
 
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I found young Selena so annoying, I hated watching Wizards with my kids because of her (same for Debbie Ryan). I quite like adult Selena though but she cannot sing. She really cannot
 
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Team Selena 🙌 sorry but Hailey comes off as a bit weird. That video of her dming fans so she could turn up to the same places as Justin gives stalker vibes
Hailey was roughly 16-17 during this time. It's not unusual for teenage girls to do weird tit. Plus the fact other fans her age were doing the same thing. I believe Acacia Brinley was accused of stalking Jairus too. It's just "weird" because we didn't have fans growing up and couldn't DM them cringy things. Also, keep in mind Selena is older than everyone else but is acting the least mature.
 
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Hailey was roughly 16-17 during this time. It's not unusual for teenage girls to do weird tit. Plus the fact other fans her age were doing the same thing. I believe Acacia Brinley was accused of stalking Jairus too. It's just "weird" because we didn't have fans growing up and couldn't DM them cringy things. Also, keep in mind Selena is older than everyone else but is acting the least mature.
The maturity level between 26 and 30 is hardly different though.
 
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Justin & Selena's relationship happened naturally whereas Hailey's was all based on spying/stalking 🥴 he basically married a fan
 
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