As suggested in the Celeb Gossip thread as it has become the Scott Mills thread.
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yep think this is the right thing to do given the speed of the other thread.
I didnt even get my first mobile until 1999 so there may not be any evidence of him and this boy interacting.
I didnt even get my first mobile until 1999 so there may not be any evidence of him and this boy interacting.
I think this is crucial; with Huw, there were texts and messages. There’ll be nothing like as much from the late 90’s.
ETA-I know there were texts, but also the devices they were sent/received from likely don’t exist now.
ETA-I know there were texts, but also the devices they were sent/received from likely don’t exist now.
I suppose its not 100% impossible if someone kept all of their messages and transferred them from phone to phone over the years. Its vanishingly unlikely, however.
I doubt there's any evidence of text messages and photo messaging wasn't a thing back then, was it? It'll be hearsay and anecdotal evidence, I would imagine.
I do feel sorry for the man, losing his job so publicly, and having his allegedly sordid past discussed in depth all over the internet.
I do feel sorry for the man, losing his job so publicly, and having his allegedly sordid past discussed in depth all over the internet.
It is confusing to me how somebody has been fired for behaviour for which there is no evidence. Either Scott has admitted the behaviour or this is surely open to challenge. It is hard to think what purpose is served by firing the man, other than bolstering the BBC's image as zero tolerance. Which we all know it isn't.
I think it’s quite likely that whoever complained or wrote in likely suggested that they would go to the media
Given the BBCs current reputation any news that has some factual basis of a relationship between their talent and someone underage is not going to go down well and put the company into disrepute
There clearly has to be some evidence if a whole file was sent to the CPS at the time
Jeremy Vine isn't afraid of the sack for speaking out. He's right. It's crazy someone has been sacked for something thirty years ago, that he was cleared of ten years ago and never been arrested for.
Would we have the same opinion if this was a woman making an allegation against a male presenter?
Because personally I don’t think I would and I would find anyone who suggests that it should be overlooked as questionable
Absolutely agree. He was cleared so why now? It all seems very unfair and almost like he’s a scapegoat from the BBC, who have let a lot of sex offenders slip through their net. A bit like “look at what we CAN do”
I think the BBC has gone zero tolerance now & that has come at Scott's expense.
I just can't get my head round any of it, and honestly as this moment in time think he met someone they told him they were older was a fling like relationship not a serious/proper relationship and off the back of all the Yewtree stuff he went to the police in 2016 and then by 2019 not enough evidence was found so is innocent. Not condoning anything but back in the 90s things were different, I was going out to night clubs at 16 but I had friends that were 15...
I just can't get my head round any of it, and honestly as this moment in time think he met someone they told him they were older was a fling like relationship not a serious/proper relationship and off the back of all the Yewtree stuff he went to the police in 2016 and then by 2019 not enough evidence was found so is innocent. Not condoning anything but back in the 90s things were different, I was going out to night clubs at 16 but I had friends that were 15...
The article I shared earlier stated that Scott was interviewed by police in 2016 as part of Operation Winter Key, which stemmed from Yew Tree. I'm wondering what triggered the Winter Key interview...... were they just looking at all public figures who had had any previous interactions with the police, or would it have to have been someone coming forward with a complaint.
I'm not saying SM has done anything on a large scale by mentioning those operations, it's a genuine question about what triggered those Winter Key interviews.
I'm guessing at the time lots of people were interviewed, so it seems odd that SM wouldn't declare to BBC he'd had an interview at the time. Or maybe he did, but didn't declare all the details
Recent reports state the BBC is in touch with the complainant, but do we know for sure they are the victim? Could it be someone speaking on their behalf?
Also, just trying to step back and look at it from another perspective, the wording I have seen states that SM was interviewed in relation to historic sexual offences. Could it be that it was something he was aware of, rather than being the perp? I know that seems unlikely, but it's not been made 100% clear from what I've seen.
I'm not saying SM has done anything on a large scale by mentioning those operations, it's a genuine question about what triggered those Winter Key interviews.
I'm guessing at the time lots of people were interviewed, so it seems odd that SM wouldn't declare to BBC he'd had an interview at the time. Or maybe he did, but didn't declare all the details
Recent reports state the BBC is in touch with the complainant, but do we know for sure they are the victim? Could it be someone speaking on their behalf?
Also, just trying to step back and look at it from another perspective, the wording I have seen states that SM was interviewed in relation to historic sexual offences. Could it be that it was something he was aware of, rather than being the perp? I know that seems unlikely, but it's not been made 100% clear from what I've seen.
I think until we find out more information or get a statement from either Scott or the alleged victim, speculating with wild theories isn't helpful or productive.
Discussing the facts and info available should be the focus.
Discussing the facts and info available should be the focus.
I'm confused - so was SM dismissed because the person was under 16?;
The Metropolitan Police has told BBC News that the teenage boy at the centre of the Scott Mills sexual offences investigation was under the age of 16.
The former BBC Radio 2 and Radio 1 DJ, 53, was questioned in 2018 over historical allegations of serious sexual offences. But the investigation - which began in 2016 - was closed in 2019 after the CPS deemed there was insufficient evidence to bring charges.
Or was it because he didn't declare the investigation;
BBC News understands that the director general at the time, Tony Hall, did not know about the allegations.
The Metropolitan Police has told BBC News that the teenage boy at the centre of the Scott Mills sexual offences investigation was under the age of 16.
The former BBC Radio 2 and Radio 1 DJ, 53, was questioned in 2018 over historical allegations of serious sexual offences. But the investigation - which began in 2016 - was closed in 2019 after the CPS deemed there was insufficient evidence to bring charges.
Or was it because he didn't declare the investigation;
BBC News understands that the director general at the time, Tony Hall, did not know about the allegations.
I think they’ve gone for a ‘zero tolerance’ approach to show how on the ball they are. Again, not condoning anything but in the late 90s, I was a teenager and an absolute hole but I was entirely complicit in everything I did!
Teenage boy at centre of Scott Mills sexual offences investigation was under 16, police say
The case was dropped in 2019 after the CPS deemed there was insufficient evidence to bring charges, police say.
www.bbc.co.uk
I don’t think someone who was a “willing” participant would go through a 3 year limbo just for the sake of it
Lots of reference to the period 1997-2000. I wonder if the boy was under 16 at the beginning of that period or for the whole 3 years.
Sorry not read your whole comment yet but Winter Key is below
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It'll be because he didn't declare the investigation to the BBC, as I doubt you can sack anyone because of alleged offenses that were closed because there wasn't any evidence.
It's complex, because there's not enough evidence - so it may well be the case something did happen but they just cannot prove anything.
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