Please don’t let there be a photo leaked off Scott alà Huw Edwards. I suppose the silver lining if there is, is that it’ll be from the late 90s/early 2000s so it will look like it’s been taken on a potato.
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This reads to me like a separate allegation than the serious sexual offenses he was quizzed by police over in 2016, rather than a case of the original complainant going to a journalist in 2025, as it says that was with regards to "inappropriate communications." I don't think serious sexual offenses would be described as that.
BBC 'knew about Scott Mills allegations a year ago' as they issue apology
Scott Mills, known for presenting on BBC Radio 1 and BBC Radio 2 for over two decades, has been fired from the broadcaster after allegations were made against himwww.dailystar.co.uk
This says it was a press query, not an actual report or anything providing them with evidence
It might explain the BBC's choice of dealing with this if they discovered very recently about the allegations in 2016, then also remembered the other incident last year when there was a different allegation about inappropriate communications which at the time they appear to have shrugged off
I was a bit curious about this also, but I found a document from London City Hall which explains it a bit more about what Operation Winter Key was.
So basically, Operation Winter Key was The Met Police's overarching investigation team dealing with any allegations of historic CSA that fell within the scope of the Independent Inquiry into Child Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA) which was a public enquiry specifically looking at CSA committed by public institutions and public figures.
It also included any 'public figures of prominence' (such as politicians) and also specifically cited the BBC as one of its examples of the institutions it covered.
So while we don't necessarily know the context of why Mills was interviewed under Operation Winter Key, I can definitely see why The BBC would go for an instant dismissal if Mills failed to disclose that he'd been interviewed as part of this investigation even if he wasn't formally charged. Given that the inquiry was specifically looking at institutional abuse committed within the BBC and not just individuals, it's a double whammy for them if they're seen as covering it up or protecting Mills on any level because he is a big name on the BBC (even if he wasn't working there at the time of the offence) because that's the very thing IISCA was scrutinising. Esp when they didn't do their due diligence with the complaint made against him last year so it already looks bad for the Beeb.
Removing all footage and audio of Scott seems to go beyond what the public want and is performative.
For Jimmy Saville it made perfect sense. He abused hundreds of children over decades, and also conned thousands of nurses, charity workers and others. Tens of thousands of people had a personal impact from this man's repeated abuse and deception. To stumble across his voice or image was certain to trigger a very deep revulsion and upset for anyone aware of him...which was the entire British public.
It seems this case is very different. And without wishing to make any assumptions about the trauma experienced by the youngster in this case, deleting thousands of episodes of TV and radio shows is in a literal sense rewriting history.
The time could be much better spent and the BBC's position on integrity much better communicated by other means, I feel.
For Jimmy Saville it made perfect sense. He abused hundreds of children over decades, and also conned thousands of nurses, charity workers and others. Tens of thousands of people had a personal impact from this man's repeated abuse and deception. To stumble across his voice or image was certain to trigger a very deep revulsion and upset for anyone aware of him...which was the entire British public.
It seems this case is very different. And without wishing to make any assumptions about the trauma experienced by the youngster in this case, deleting thousands of episodes of TV and radio shows is in a literal sense rewriting history.
The time could be much better spent and the BBC's position on integrity much better communicated by other means, I feel.
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I’m probably some internet nut job conspiracy theorist but I did wonder if this has all popped up now because an NDA has expired and so the victim has approached the media? I don’t really know if NDAs are a thing in the UK, I know we had that weird super injunction period in our lives but that’s quite different.
I mean an NDA being separate to any file that went to the CPS. Maybe the NDA came with a bit of a pay off? Dunno. Maybe I spend too many hours late at night on the internet.
I mean an NDA being separate to any file that went to the CPS. Maybe the NDA came with a bit of a pay off? Dunno. Maybe I spend too many hours late at night on the internet.
I have to disagree in my place of employment we did. The evidence whilst at the time wasn't enough for the police to charge was enough to bring our company into disrepute. The burden of proof to meet the evidential test for prosecution is beyond all reasonable doubt in employment the balance of probabilities is enough. Just because mills wasn't charged doesn't mean there was no evidence just that the CPS didn't think it met the threshold. The CPS are notoriously difficult
Yeah, personally I get the feeling that the 2016 allegation may have only came to light as a result of this 2025 complaint being recently chased up since the BBC didn't respond. The article mentions the journalist specifically asked if they'd ever conducted an internal investigation against Scott Mills (which they hadn't) or been made aware of any formal or informal complaints about him being inappropriate or 'harassing'.
Prior to the reason being confirmed, the Celeb Gossip thread mentioned there'd been rumours of him being a bit of a bully behind the scenes, which is what some people thought the 'personal conduct' referenced.
To me, it sounds like they've realised they need to investigate the complaint in some way (whether the 'inappropriate communications' mentioned was related to grooming or bullying or something else) but during that process, they've found out about Scott's Operation Winter Key interview that wasn't disclosed before now (possibly confessed by Scott himself if they've had to question him on if there's anything they need to know) which is why they're had to dismiss him effective immediately.
If SM was a contractor, then employment law doesn't apply here, it's contract law.
Huw Edwards was an employee and therefore subject to HR law.
I doubt they'll *delete* anything. It'll stay in the archive and just not be used. That's fine IMHO.
But we don’t know. The BBC apparently suspended him and dismissed him, unusual way to deal with a contractor.
GreGG Wallace was a contractor and still tried to go ahead with his claim against the Beeb.
My point still stands - whether employee or contractor, the “balance of probability” doesn’t apply to assessing whether he is a pweirdo or sex offender. It applies to whatever rule the dismissal is under, likely candidates being “did he on balance of probabilities fail to disclose he was interviewed under caution” or “did he on balance of probabilities act in a way that could bring the BBC into disrepute”.
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Not what I was getting at at all. My son is at secondary school and some of the Year 10 and 11 lads are 6ft tall with beards so if they wanted to pass for 18+ they easily could and add in a dark nightclub and being pissed you can see how a mistake might be made.
Queer as Folk was HUGE at this time and glamourised a young lad coming onto the scene with an older man so you can imagine a lot of young men thinking that would be their experience too and finding out otherwise.
someone called Anna Brees?
'Anna Brees also quizzed the network if it had ever received any “formal or informal complaints” about Mills “relating to safeguarding, inappropriate conduct or harassment” and whether they had carried out had an internal investigation - but she did not receive a response.
Anna said: “Someone who knew I used to work for the BBC volunteered some information about Scott Mills messaging someone inappropriately.
“It was a credible source and I was concerned so I decided to contact the BBC to make them aware of it and see if they came back with anything. I didn’t get a response.”
I remember watching it and having a massive issue with that, but I thought I was homophobic. It just felt so wrong because Nathan was so young.
I did, but those were my teen years
But you can’t fake a DBS check. That comes from the police. Any organisation who relied onself-declaration to make safeguarding decisions would be making a massively unethical and possibly illegal breach.
I think this too. It all seems a bit much before he’s been charged. So after all the incidents the BBC has had over the years they would have been grateful to just get rid of him. It was only last week it was in the news again about how much Huw Edwards was still getting paid while on suspension. But I don’t know I don’t want to seem as if I’ve got any sympathy with a sex offender but something about all of this seems very off. The Beeb isn’t doing this out of any moral obligation it’s definitely a face saving exercise.
Back in the early 2000’s when I was in sixth form there was a boy in my year who was with a girl in year 9. She must have had a useless mother as the lad was allowed to stay over at her home. We all used to discuss how weird it was but no one ever took issue with him. The school must have known too and never acted on it. What I always remember was one of the other lads said at any point in the future she could go to the police and make a complaint about him. Things like this did always go on back then but even when the younger person was complicit it was always viewed as weird. The last 10 years or so there has been a complete change in attitude (for the better) and things like this are being brought to attention a lot more. Attitudes were so different back then I remember how popular the tv show Queer as Folk was, one of the main characters in it becomes involved with a 15 year old, I know it would have been a older actor but they had some very graphic scenes. Not in a million years would that be allowed on television now. Just goes to show how much attitudes have changed. Back then younger people getting involved with a older person were viewed as promiscuous and precocious and they were usually blamed, not the older manipulative adult.
I wonder if they DBS people when they are initially employed/contracted and then don't repeat the process. So if any police interviews took place after, they won't know.
There is an update service now for DBS, which wasn't always available. Maybe there was a policy change at the BBC and this was implemented.
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