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Most people who define themselves as non-binary are not going to bite your head off if you get it wrong.

The bellends are the ones who think it's funny to get it wrong or the really hilarious "it".
 
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The way I see it is that I will try to use these pronouns but I can’t really blame myself or anyone else for using grammar correctly, as we were taught at school and as children. ‘They’ and ‘them’ doesn’t work in vocabulary very well so it’s not exactly ignorance, it’s a technical skill everyone now has to learn
I don't see buying into someone else's delusion as a skill, and its certainly not one I have to learn
 
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People aren’t getting pronouns ‘wrong’ they are refusing to go along with something they consider both incorrect and harmful. No good ever comes of forcing people to believe something that is manifestly untrue, either for the person being forced or the one doing the forcing.
If Sam Smith announces in a few months that he’s detransitioning back to being a man or if he decides to become a woman are people just going to blindly jump to his tune purely because he says so?
I imagine some of the dullards who like to pop up and kindly correct people would love it though, it’ll be another opportunity to get that little frisson of self righteousness that they live for.
 
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You're wrong. As I said, I've seen enough pisstaking over it on here and social media.

But so what if Sam decides to do whatever? It's their life. By all means take the piss out of the outfit, but jumping on pronouns is a bit pathetic.

As an addendum, Shakespeare used to use gender-neutral pronouns. Guess that makes him woke, eh...
 
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At the time Shakespeare was writing the word ‘bleep’ was in common parlance and was not considered obscene. You try using it to refer to people today and I think you might find any excuses of ‘but it was alright in the past’ would probably get you short shrift.
You might think it’s ‘pisstaking’ but most people are taking the piss purely because they consider it to be ridiculous. Sam is perfectly within his rights to identify how ever he wishes, but he does not have the right to force other people to go along with any of it.
 
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At the time Shakespeare was writing the word ‘bleep’ was in common parlance and was not considered obscene. You try using it to refer to people today and I think you might find any excuses of ‘but it was alright in the past’ would probably get you short shrift.
You might think it’s ‘pisstaking’ but most people are taking the piss purely because they consider it to be ridiculous. Sam is perfectly within his rights to identify how ever he wishes, but he does not have the right to force other people to go along with any of it.
I think you know that your point about "c*nt" has no relevance.

People are taking the piss because to them, it's all a laugh. I pity them, to be honest.
 
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Has anyone heard Lizzo completely murdering Unholy in the Radio1 Live Lounge 🤣
 
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You're wrong. As I said, I've seen enough pisstaking over it on here and social media.

But so what if Sam decides to do whatever? It's their life. By all means take the piss out of the outfit, but jumping on pronouns is a bit pathetic.

As an addendum, Shakespeare used to use gender-neutral pronouns. Guess that makes him woke, eh...
Shakespeare used to use pronouns such a thee/thine/thou as well, times change
 
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I do wonder how you and some others would react to a son or daughter of theirs telling them that they wish to be referred to using pronouns. Would you take the piss out of them?
 
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At the time Shakespeare was writing the word ‘bleep’ was in common parlance and was not considered obscene. You try using it to refer to people today and I think you might find any excuses of ‘but it was alright in the past’ would probably get you short shrift.
You might think it’s ‘pisstaking’ but most people are taking the piss purely because they consider it to be ridiculous. Sam is perfectly within his rights to identify how ever he wishes, but he does not have the right to force other people to go along with any of it.
I am Scottish and the use of the word c*nt is interchangeable- it can be used as an insult or a compliment!
 
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I do wonder how you and some others would react to a son or daughter of theirs telling them that they wish to be referred to using pronouns. Would you take the piss out of them?
I’d probably get them some therapy
 
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I am Scottish and the use of the word c*nt is interchangeable- it can be used as an insult or a compliment!
To be fair, I’m not bothered by it particularly. It was just an example of the fact that trying to force people into using words because of archaic usage isn’t the ‘gotcha’ that some think it is. Especially when you’ve seen that exact same argument dozens of times in the last few days. It must be doing the rounds or something.

It’s the people correcting others about the pronouns that bring the ‘incorrect’ usage of pronouns into the conversation in the first place. People mostly WERE just talking about his ridiculous outfits until someone felt the need to preach about it.

My sons think all the pronoun hysteria is even more ridiculous than I do. One of them wears eyeliner and nail varnish and dyes his hair bright colours, both of them have long hair and neither of them like football, sports or anything stereotypically male. They are still young blokes though, but they don’t conform to restrictive gender stereotypes.
 
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Maybe you guys want to move this chat over to the gender discussions thread? This one is about Sam!
 
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As it involves Sam, I think it's relevant. Anyway, I've said my bit.
 
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I do wonder how you and some others would react to a son or daughter of theirs telling them that they wish to be referred to using pronouns. Would you take the piss out of them?
What kind of tit argument is that. How DARE you ASSUME every human being on this planet would want a child 😂 oh wait, I know because children are sacred and especially your own gtfo. And if I do decide to flop out a child then yes, it wouldn’t be accepted and glorified
 
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Sam Smith is a biological man and I don't appreciate him appropriating a biological woman's body by wearing that dress with a print of a woman's body...why do his feelings matter more than mine or anyone else's?!
 
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I do wonder how you and some others would react to a son or daughter of theirs telling them that they wish to be referred to using pronouns. Would you take the piss out of them?
If one of my kids decided to change their pronouns I would say, don't be so bloody stupid, and grow up. I will never use pronouns to anyone, I think they are complete nonsense I see a male or a female, a he or her, have your pronouns but don't expect people to just except them, they are beyond ridiculous, find another way for attention.
 
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