Roe v. Wade

[LadyQuaithe]

So , everybody can comment on lets' say Russia but not on USA affairs?

Especially when conservatives around the world are feeling happy and bolstered after this decision of SCOTUS.

 

[kalechips]

There is a reason people like Kamala Harris are ringing the alarm bells and the “next they’ll come for” rhetoric is going at full blast. It’s election year.

What would warrant actually ringing alarm bells then? If women's choice being taken away is not enough of a reason?

 

[thegirlscout]

Someone on Twitter said it’s Obama’s fault because he didn’t codify Roe vs Wade - does that mean make it so legally binding that it can’t be overturned?

 

[wibble]

it’s only a matter of time before loving v virginia (interracial marriage) gets added into the mix too.

Really?
So what would be the test case?
And btw, the only people suggesting anything like this are all on the left.

 

[Lady_H]

Representatives who will afford them the right to abortion will never be elected due to restrictions and rules on voting set in place continuously by the Republican party at the state level. The conservative right of the US don't want true democracy as it threatens their power.

BIB - I just don’t know about the truth of this; given that the Democrats won across the board in the last election, the Republican campaign to deny true democracy doesn’t seem to be going very well! And know that liberals fear this to be the case, but conservatives feel exactly, word-for-word, the same way about the far-left Democrats. Maybe the extreme wing of any political movement probably feels this way - but most people are not on the extremes.

I guess this also assumes that no Republican led state will uphold abortion rights. That’s not the case at the moment but I guess we’ll have to see what happens. In swing states, that would

 

[thegirlscout]

his selections were:

neil gorsuch
brett kavanaugh (of the aforementioned sexual assault cases)
amy coney barrett

kavanaugh came in for kennedy (to my memory) who retired. you’re right that the other two covered deaths though.

worth pointing out that acb succeeded rbg, who died while still serving but who people wanted to retire beforehand so obama could get another long term selection in. who knows how that may have worked out if she did.

they serve for a long time though. george bush snr still has two picks in there!

Why didn’t RBG retire?

 

[thegirlscout]

yep, and three of the current nine were picked by trump

How was he able to do that? I thought only 2 died?

 

[Piff paff puff]

From my understanding all the abolition of Roe v Wade actually does is remove the federal right to an abortion and sends it to each state to make a decision at the local level. Hence Conservative states will ban the practice and liberal states will maintain it. And given this is the US it ‘s usually about 50-50 Republican v Democrat. So if a state has a Republican legislature which was elected on an anti-abortion ticket then I’m not seeing how that is undemocratic.

And those blaming “men” exclusively for this are watching very different news reports to me. From what I’ve seen there are plenty of women in the anti-abortion protests as well. Women from a younger demographic as well.

I only know the bare minimum about this tbh, I was just trying to establish if it was democratically voted for with a majority vote and whether people are for it against, it's obviously important that democracy is upheld.

 

[mcfeez]

Was this a democratic decision? i.e the majority people or persons representing these states voted in favour? You can't be pro democracy and anti democracy at the same time.

Not really a legislative decision, but a judicial ruling. The power of the Supreme Court goes essentially unchecked. Years ago they decided that constitutionally everyone should have legal access to abortion. They got the conservative numbers up on the bench and apparently decided that that was no longer a correct assessment.