Yeah and that what makes it all a big mess and tars Nigel with promoting things he hasn’t actually said etc, as he’s associated with these people. He and all politicians should be more careful and less inflammatory to avoid that.
Yeah and that what makes it all a big mess and tars Nigel with promoting things he hasn’t actually said etc, as he’s associated with these people. He and all politicians should be more careful and less inflammatory to avoid that.I think (and I don't mean people posting here) that for some people, discussions around immigration have been quite a convenient way of voicing their opinions on people who aren't white, unfortunately. You just have to look at the cesspit that is Twitter to see some of the language used.
Happy to helpIf somebody asks me today for an example of irony, I'll show them this post.
Agree, I live on the outskirts of London in a community that is mostly made up of immigrants and it is feral. Absolutely zero integration is happening and they treat the area like a rubbish dump, it is filthy. Coming from New Zealand where we are taught at a young age to “be a tidy kiwi” it is sad to see.I'm from London and that's not always true
I'm more talking about the 'stop the boats' bollocks than Farage's old playlist (I'm happy to deny him the oxygen of publicity that he craves) - it's a classic 'look at this - don't look at that' diversion tactic by the current shower. The country is a mess, yet people are huffing about a handful of folk on dinghys, as if stopping them landing on the south coast will cure all ills.I don’t think anyone anti mass immigration is anti brown people, it was coming from the EU as well. It’s the same line of thought as squawking racist whenever anyone makes a point about it
Er, Nigel's whole raison d'etre is to be inflammatory.Yeah and that what makes it all a big mess and tars Nigel with promoting things he hasn’t actually said etc, as he’s associated with these people. He and all politicians should be more careful and less inflammatory to avoid that.
I live in a part of London where I'm in the minority as a white person - and I love it. I'd hate to live somewhere where it's pretty much only people who look like me.Agree, I live on the outskirts of London in a community that is mostly made up of immigrants and it is feral. Absolutely zero integration is happening and they treat the area like a rubbish dump, it is filthy. Coming from New Zealand where we are taught at a young age to “be a tidy kiwi” it is sad to see.
I don’t usually watch Breakfast TV, but as I have had a week of working from home - I have watched Good morning Britain (the 6am-7am part of the show) each morning. It has been an eye opener for me - they talk about the same few topics on a loop!Yeah but how many of these boats are coming?! If it was like four boats a year then yeah there’s bigger issues, but they’re apparently coming DAILY (happy to be corrected). What other country has boatloads of daily migrants?
Also a load are from France
I think this is the Left’s problem right now. When people don’t agree with them, they just get personal and offensive. It really doesn’t help them sway opinion!So that’s two digs at posters on here and not one actual argument about why we shouldn’t worry about the boats
Yeah I actually agree with some points people who don’t like Nigel have made here. There’s a pattern- the posts that make good points aren’t aggressive or inflammatoryI think this is the Left’s problem right now. When people don’t agree with them, they just get personal and offensive. It really doesn’t help them sway opinion!
Have you driven on a motorway recently, sat in an A&E waiting room or tried to get a doctor’s appointment?Seriously, how are we 'chocka'?
That’s because the system is broken and the NHS has been run into the ground.Have you driven on a motorway recently, sat in an A&E waiting room or tried to get a doctor’s appointment?
Well I do agree the NHS is a shit show but you and I probably disagree about who is to blame for that!That’s because the system is broken and the NHS has been run into the ground.
But this has to cut both ways here. I'm left wing and oppose Farage and all of his views and I don't think I, or some other folk, have been offensive or personal at all? There are quite a lot of double standards going on here. There's been a lot of 'prove it', which I'm happy to do as the info is out there, but, to be fair, I don't recall asking anyone to prove that he *isn't* racist, which would be a fair ask. I'd like to see where he's said that he'd like our disabled people, in particular, to be better cared for, or women. I don't just have an issue with the fact that I think his policies and rhetoric are a cover for his racism, I also think he's a misogynist.I think this is the Left’s problem right now. When people don’t agree with them, they just get personal and offensive. It really doesn’t help them sway opinion!
I absolutely agree with you. Not everyone on the Left is like that, obvs (I have loads of Leftie mates who don’t call me a thick Brexiteer gammon, and we happily agree to disagree), but a sizeable and vociferous number which I honestly don’t think you get on the Right.But this has to cut both ways here. I'm left wing and oppose Farage and all of his views and I don't think I, or some other folk, have been offensive or personal at all? There are quite a lot of double standards going on here. There's been a lot of 'prove it', which I'm happy to do as the info is out there, but, to be fair, I don't recall asking anyone to prove that he *isn't* racist, which would be a fair ask. I'd like to see where he's said that he'd like our disabled people, in particular, to be better cared for, or women. I don't just have an issue with the fact that I think his policies and rhetoric are a cover for his racism, I also think he's a misogynist.
I very regularly drive over 200 miles from one part of the UK to another and have done since the mid 2000's (and also to various other parts miles away) and haven't noticed a difference, bar the endless stream of roadworks that seem absolutely never ending (although I like the 50mph bits as I usually have a fag thenHave you driven on a motorway recently
Oh definitely agree about the left there (and I know and correct similar friends myself). I do think it's similar on the right too though, it's just it tends to be more online perhaps?I absolutely agree with you. Not everyone on the Left is like that, obvs (I have loads of Leftie mates who don’t call me a thick Brexiteer gammon, and we happily agree to disagree), but a sizeable and vociferous number which I honestly don’t think you get on the Right.
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