My boyfriends friends hate me, am I to blame? I don’t know what to do?

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My bf and I are 23 and the rest of them are 22/23.

At first I was upset he was telling me all the stuff they said, but then I think I’d rather know. I do feel bad for my bf too, because okay, excluding me I can almost understand, but to not talk about the girls they’re dating in front of my bf? Seems a bit too far

That’s very true, I just need to stand up for myself, I have an awful habit of not saying anything in person if someone makes a joke about me. I just sit there and ignore it

At the moment I’m trying to pick my battles, but I wish I could get him to say something to them. He is very non confrontational though and I know he doesn’t like standing up to a group of guys

Jacob sounds like the biggest dickhead going.

You may be the main character in this situation but Jacob is the villain!

You have nothing to worry about, hold your head up high
Thank you so much

I think just go and act normal. Rise above it. I think the atmosphere with be totally different when you're there. Show them that you're a nice person and let them decide. Boys in groups are generally dickheads, but it's all just talk.
I hope they aren’t as ballsy over text! One of the other girlfriends is going too and I have a fear sams friend has told her to avoid me, which is a bit shitty as it would have been nice to be friends, but I just have anxiety they’re going to tell me to back off if I even say hi to her
 
Sounds like this Jacob's a real prick, just be you and I’m sure soon enough the others will come to realise what a dramatic untrustworthy little bitch he actually is.
You shouldn’t have a second thought about the cretin and just be open with your boyfriend, tell him he makes you uncomfortable with his actions and that you’re not prepared to be made out to be some black sheep and if you do go all go out and he happens to be there and starts acting up just make it clear that you will leave and that he needs to be honest with everyone, remove yourself from the drama... sometimes people just live for it!
 
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Just a little update: I spoke to Sam about standing up for me. He said he will not lose his friends a second time and won’t stand up for me on the group chat. He said it’s just boys banter and I need to toughen up. That hurt a little but I’m trying to move on from it...

It’s sad but my bf still feels I got Jacob dumped. He said “yeah he cheated, but for your actions directly got him dumped”, and then he switches and said “you did the right thing morally though”. I just don’t understand

I’m trying super hard to just act normal. He said he’s going to tell his friends that I’m in Dubai same time as them and study their reaction. If they act annoyed and say they don’t want to meet me, then I won’t come to the outing and I’ll stay home with his parents. If they act fine, he will bring me. But he’s told me not to react to anything they say or “cause issues”, unless it’s something justifiable.

I don’t know what to say, and don’t know if I’m being treated fairly here...I’m just lost and anxious really. But we’ve had a few fights lately and I don’t want to seem like I’m getting on his back and getting angry with everything (hence trying to pick my battles)
 
Honestly I'd probably leave my boyfriend if I were you, I don't think he's treating you fairly at all
 
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This might not be what you want to hear, but I don’t think your boyfriends being very fair to you

He said it’s your actions that got Jacob dumped but Jacob cheating got him dumped. Your boyfriend told you at the time that you could tell the girlfriend so he needs to have your back now.

Jacob sounds immature and although boys have banter on group chats, your boyfriend needs to stick up for you more if it’s making you uncomfortable. You should be able to go out with his group of friends without being this worried about it. I would tell him that you’re not telling him he shouldn’t have banter with his friends, but if things are being said about you that crosses the line he needs to stand up for you and tell his friends he won’t listen to them talking about you, whether it’s “banter” or not.
 
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He should be bringing you to the outing anyway if it’s a couples thing... not seeing whether they approve, either everyone move on or have it out face to face especially if this is something that happened a while ago.
In my opinion sam needs to grow a pair of bollocks and stand up for you his girlfriend, If he’s not prepared to stand up for you then that would make me question whether this is someone I see myself with in the future.
 
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Every time he says “we got Jacob dumped” or “you got Jacob dumped” I always stop and remind him that jacobs cheating directly got him dumped. I think even if he says they don’t want me there, I’m going to come, just so I can say to myself I’ve faced them. Because I probably won’t get this chance again, until we marry and have a wedding (if we do) and that would be even worse

Sadly I don’t think he would ever stick up for me unless they said something really really bad, like “don’t bring (me) we hate her”, then he might stick up for me, who knows

I’m actually not sure if it’s a couples thing, I know one other girlfriend will be there, but not sure if she’s coming along or if it’s just the boys.

He does need to grow up and stand up to them, but I know if I insist he stands up to them, he won’t let me go to the outing in fear of me starting trouble and I won’t overcome my fear of facing them
 
I am going to take a bit of a different view here. Ultimately if Sam sees a future with you he should support you.

But looking at this factually, the boys and Sam have been friends long before you and should anything happen between you two, he will want his friends after. Two, you never met this Lauren girl, she wasn't your friend to start with so from the boys point of view you gave her information that wasn't yours to give (both on the drugs and the cheating). You had to persuade Sam to let you tell Lauren which put Sam in a difficult position. The boys probably feel betrayed by Sam as this was not necessarily information they wanted you to know. Jacob probably saw that you interfered in his relationship twice when it perhaps wasn't your place. Sam then worked hard to win his friends trust back because he told you secrets that perhaps he shouldn't have done.

From what you have said, I do not think your boyfriend sees you as equal to his friends and to me this means he does not see a future per-say. He either needs to grow some balls and stand up to them and explain or he's not worth your time. While my husbands friends were complete twats towards me, he stuck up for me and was ready to lose them over me. Sam is not. I think you need to think about this, and if you can't socialise with his friends how is that going to effect things like weddings etc.
 
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I think you should go too. It might be hard but I wouldn’t think of it as facing them or it being a big deal - I would just go, be yourself, chat to everyone and make friends with the other girlfriend. Chances are they’ll all realise you’re a nice person and if anything Jacob will look like a dickhead for being horrible about it.

If anyone were to bring up what happened, you can be honest and say yes you did tell her but only because she asked and you didn’t want to lie to her as you counted her as a friend.

Your boyfriend should stick up for you no matter what though. I would think about mentioning this to him if it’s making you feel anxious - even if it’s just to say that ideally you’d want to be able to go out with his friends without feeling like you’re not welcome.
 
He does need to grow up and stand up to them, but I know if I insist he stands up to them, he won’t let me go to the outing in fear of me starting trouble and I won’t overcome my fear of facing them
Sorry but this is not okay, you want him to do things he's not happy to do and he is controlling what you can and can't do. You both need to be on the same team as a partnership.
 
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I have been in similar situations. My boyfriend has close friends and they have gfs so I’ve became close with the girls. It’s really hard to actually have those friendships as true friendships though because there will inevitably come a time where you have to choose your loyalties. I’ve always said to my bf if I ever hear anything about one of the girls I am close to I would put it more on the bf to tell her. For example go to jacob and say I know what happened, tell her or I will. I have also gotten in hot water from being too close to bfs friends girlfriends. It’s hard especially when you click with someone. But at the end of the day even though my bf would be mad if I made him and his friends fall out if it came down to it and I was in the right morally I know he would choose me and back me any day. He wouldn’t let anyone say shit or speak to me badly. Your bf does not have your back and sounds spineless. In the future if for example there was a family argument, you need to be with someone who will back you 1000% always
 
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I totally agree with you. I asked him if they said something really bad, would he stand up for me? And he said yes he would, and he obviously would choose me over them. But how do I know that? Will that scenario ever happen for me to know? I have no idea

At the end of the day, if they’re rude to me, they’re not coming to any wedding. Even if Sam wants them there, if they’re not kind to me, then they won’t come. And if Sam has a problem with that, he doesn’t have to come either

I was thinking of being *extra* nice, to compensate with what happened (even though I have nothing to compensate for), but like paying for the bill when we go out? Although that might make it look like I’m trying too hard.

I have a habit of being extremely nice to people who aren’t nice to me, just so they like me :/

Here are some screenshots from our conversation. Right now I’m not happy with what he’s said or how he’s acting. I just don’t know what to do. We’ve booked the flights and everything

Oh also I forgot to say, something that is weird, Sam always backs me up in arguments. If me and his mum disagree on something or she says something about me, he is the first person to tell her off for what she said. Even going as far as to stop talking to her until she apologises to me...so I don’t understand why it’s different this time
 

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Easy for me to say but I think you're overthinking it. Treat it as an episode of Made in Chelsea.

Most of us take the side of our mates in private no matter what they've done (and only hearing one side). Once you meet them, you're charming, you're nice, you're fun etc they should stop making those kind of jokes. I doubt they'd have the balls to joke in front of you anyway.

Also, I don't really know how you can spin it that you cheat but it's not your fault anyway. Maybe Jacob should consider a career in politics.
 
You haven’t done anything wrong. It’s Jacobs fault he cheated, and if he didn’t want anyone else to know he shouldn’t have told anyone.
His other friends might also agree that you did the right thing privately but would never admit it.
 
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You have to remember, men don't think things are an issue like women do. I think you need to move on, if you want to stay with Sam. Sam didn't cheat on you and Jacob would have had his comeuppance at some point as his gf obviously had an inkling.

If you want to stay with him, I think you just need to forget it and forget whats been said. Don't be overly nice, just be you and act as if nothing has happened and try and move on without this elephant in the room.
 
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I probably am overthinking it, like I do with everything lol. I do understand him taking his friends side because he doesn’t want to fall out with them, but I can’t help feeling let down. I thought he had a backbone and would stand up for me. Anyway, I have no choice but to move on and hope it gets better

Actually Jacob works in pharmaceuticals lol, far from politics!


Thank you for your advice I think this is exactly what I’ll do. No point dwelling on the past and might as well move on now!
 
Honestly I'd probably leave my boyfriend if I were you, I don't think he's treating you fairly at all
Agree with this, your boyfriend sounds very immature and seems to forget he’s the one who told you what Jacob did.

If he really loved and cared about you he wouldn’t let his mates talk about you like that, and lads banter is not an excuse.

Fuck Jacob and fuck your boyfriend
 
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Unpopular opinion from me perhaps - keep your nose out of other peoples business. I’m sure you don’t want to get tarnished with the busy body brush. You had no duty to this girl and it all sounds very immature. They won’t last; and if they do so what? Their relationship problems are nothing to do with you.

Don’t beat yourself up, just take it as a life lesson and move on! Xx
 
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You did the right thing!!! They’re just unhappy because they got caught. You should feel proud and strong for doing that. Because I am sure any of us in that position would want to know!!! They should so disgusting. Face them confidently with your head held high because you did the absolute right thing.
 
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You're not in the wrong and remember you have nothing to feel bad about when you go to see Sam's family.

It was wrong of Jacob to cheat and he's shifting the blame onto you because he doesn't want to face up to his actions and take responsibility for them.
 
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