I had no idea! [emoji33] I just watched this documentary and after summiting and starting to descend, he was completely abandoned by the guide that was with him. He was only 22!! There were huge problems with the expedition company from the start, including terrible organisation and the oxygen bottles had been altered and weren't functioning properly. The Matthews being such billionaires, really don't understand how they didn't make sure it was the end of the expedition company.
There's nothing 'heroic' about queuing up for the summit as if it's a ride at Alton Towers. Hardly a major achievement if that many people are already right in front of you.
I've seen smaller queues at the bar in a Wetherspoons on New Years Eve
As has been said, my heart goes out to the Sherpas who risk their lives for a bunch of rich tourists. They should bring in a law that states if the Sherpa advises it's too risky then the tourist has to go ahead without them if they disregard that advice.
That's good to know! Thanks! Yeah, since you started this thread, I've been seeing lots of documentaries and looking into people who have climbed ME and I have to say, I now feel slightly different in terms of understanding and admiring some people who have done it.
There's doing it for your ego and there's doing it for the right reasons, such as honoring people who passed away trying to achieve that dream, to raise awareness and money for charities, etc.
Garret Madison founded a company called Madison Mountaneering and he's done incredible work. His no. 1 concern is safety and if that means giving up on summiting, so be it. His team always fixes the lines up to the summit (as well as on K2) so that all teams have a safe climb. He arranges clean ups in which they bring down tonnes of trash and he looks after the Sherpas.
Elia Saikaly is such a brilliant filmographer/photographer who has worked incredibly hard to tell the stories of those who climb ME, including this year's all female Arab team. https://www.outdoorjournal.com/featured/expedition/dreams-come-true-everest-arab-women/
Also, Melissa Reid, whose videos on Everest I loved watching on Youtube. She created The Juniper Fund, which supports Sherpas, their families and communities. Brilliant work.
Also, I suggest looking up K2. Lots of videos on it.
I will watch that video, thanks! I follow Elia Saikaly on Instagram, I think. I found out this week that a guy at my husband's work climbed Everest a few years ago. How crazy is that.
I just watched that documentary. Don't mean to sound insensitive, but again, don't really understand why so many people risk their lives, also not worrying about it'll affect the lives of their loved ones and their Sherpas. Staying 30min up there to take photos when such a dangerous descent was awaiting? It's just so selfish. That woman who died convinced her husband to remortgage their house to pay for her to go. Can you imagine him blaming himself for the rest of his life. How can someone hear: Continue and you'll die and just continue? Do they think they're immortal? I honestly find it mind-boggling and think it's very unfair to try and blame their guides. If this is not the most dangerous profession in the world, than I don't know what it is.
Yes, she spent $40,000. It sounds awful but she seemed like a narcissist who didn't care about others.
Most people need oxygen at the summit, you won't survive without it. The government charge $11,000 just for a permit. I can't believe that many people are throwing the money away.
Precisely. Some people are just so obsessed that it completely overshadows anything that might come in their way. A man who suffers from a heart condition actually lied to the travel agency, so he could go ahead with his dream. So his dream is far more important than the life of the Sherpa/Sherpas helping him? What about the children the guides would leave behind? Obviously not important either. It's truly shocking.
People walking/stepping over bodies? OH MY GOD. It's like they lose any sense of decency, also not thinking they might be the ones getting walked around next.
This year the government issued the biggest number of permits yet, and seems this will become a norm.
Spencer’s Matthews from made in Chelsea’s dad has either written or writing a book. Spencer’s brother disappeared off the face of Everest and they’ve never found out what happened to him I don’t think.
I’m shocked to see those queues I always thought there was only a tiny amount of people allowed each year and that you had to be a proper climber etc. I can remember the movie about Everest a few years ago too. God knows why people still risk it.
Precisely. Some people are just so obsessed that it completely overshadows anything that might come in their way. A man who suffers from a heart condition actually lied to the travel agency, so he could go ahead with his dream. So his dream is far more important than the life of the Sherpa/Sherpas helping him? What about the children the guides would leave behind? Obviously not important either. It's truly shocking.
People walking/stepping over bodies? OH MY GOD. It's like they lose any sense of decency, also not thinking they might be the ones getting walked around next.
This year the government issued the biggest number of permits yet, and seems this will become a norm.
The government won't stop and are exploiting it because of all the money made. It is terribly sad about the sherpas. They are a group of indigenous people that live near the mountain. They don't have a lot of work options so they take that job. A few years ago there was a huge avalanche and a number of them were killed, leaving family behind. The climbers take advantage of the sherpas by making them carry things like picnic tables etc up the mountain. It is absolutely disgusting.
I will watch that video, thanks! I follow Elia Saikaly on Instagram, I think. I found out this week that a guy at my husband's work climbed Everest a few years ago. How crazy is that.
Just watched this a man who has climbed Mount Everest 21 times. It was absolutely breathtaking, one of the most incredible videos I've ever watched. Highly recommend watching it!
Also, I've been following the journey of Nimsdai https://instagram.com/nimsdai?igshid=1xamgqczfaf7h who was born in Nepal and it's trying to break the world record of 7 years 6 months 10 days for climbing the 14 highest mountains in the world. He wants to do it in 7 months and has already climbed 10! It's unreal! He is superhuman as well as his teammates. They just finished climbing K2, will start climbing Broad Peek tonight and I just watched an update of his and the man didn't look tired at all! No idea how this is possible tbh. [emoji15]
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